Delegates, Delegates, Delegates
Submitted by JIMR1150GS on Sat, 12/01/2007 - 23:27
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Listen up everyone. All is for naught if Ron does not have the delegates. I just signed up this week in my state. Have you. I am fortunate that my employer is from Scotland and he is excited about the idea of my taking a part in this process. It is also great that since I introduced him to RP he believes he would be best for our country and the world.
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Reposting this because I am curious as well...
On RonPaulForums, I checked
On December 2nd, 2007 shagywashere says:
On RonPaulForums, I checked my state for delegates (CA) and it said there was no need for more. Can I get a confirmation on this?
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Money
Sad thing you do have to pay for yourself.
http://www.gopconvention2008.com/
Although there is no fee to attend the convention itself or to be a delegate, alternate or guest to the 2008 Republican National Convention, all travel and other expenses must be covered by each attending individual. We estimate the cost as being $2,500 per individual.
Anyways, if you have the money SIGN UP!
If you don't talk to your local meetup, if Ron Paul is has a chance I'd bet you could do a chip-in together.
My best advice!
Freedom is not FREE!!
My advice is to contact your own states Department of Elections for every state is different. To give a pat answer would only invite disaster, for every state in this country is different. Contact a meetup group in your area. Become involved for at this point they will have the knowledge in your area. If this post seems vague it was meant to be that way. Living in the political swamp of Louisiana I have to trust no one, for if an election can be lost, it will most assuredly be lost here.
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Matthew's question is still not addressed
and I have the same question too- Don't the delegates from the particular states have to vote at the RNC according to their state's primary or caucus results? I know there is some variability, but aren't they supposed to vote according to the people's voice? Could someone who understands this process better explain it to everyone, especially the relationship between the state's primary and the state's delegates who vote at the RNC. Why would it help Ron Paul's chances to have us as delegates instead of anyone else? Both having to vote the way their state did?
ok I finally get it
Some states have a % of delegates that get to vote however they want and we also want to have Ron Paul supporters as delegates to make sure that when he does get the vote that the delegates follow through. Good deal.
I agree that we need the delegates in the states where this is required... maybe we should identify what states those are and make that part of these kind of posts? I'm gonna try to do that with http://www.republicansource.com/primaries.htm
idaho (my state) is this way
idaho (my state) is this way and i think most others are similar:
80% of Idaho's delegates are awarded based on the popular vote (proportionately for every candidate who gets over 5%). the delegates for each candidate are actually on a list submitted to the state GOP by the candidate himself. the other 20% of delegates are selected by the state convention (with delegates to that convention choosing them).
so... here, the ways to help Dr Paul would be (1) try to become a delegate to the state convention so you have a say in choosing the uncommitted delegates to the national convention; (2) run to be part of the 20% delegates elected at the state convention; (3) ask the campaign to put you on their list of chosen delegates (who will then only be selected if the popular vote supports it).
I'm not advocating that Paul
I'm not advocating that Paul supporters become delegates so they can vote against the "people's voice," but to prevent that from being done to us.
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Some information
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/scorecard/i...
These are all final delegate voting totals from each state in the 2004 primary. Effectively the winner of the local vote gets the majority of the delegates, but each state has its own rules and MANY provide delegates to the runner ups. There reportably were several cases in which dean didn't have delegates when he could have. This didn't "cost him the nomination" as many like to contend, but it did cause him to lose by a larger margin than he could have.
Why are the conventions at the start of the school year?
I wanted to be a delegate, until I realized that the 2008 RNC is scheduled at the same time that the school year starts -- an extremely busy time for those with children not attending government propaganda schools. This trend started in 2004 supposedly so that the convention would be closer to the Sep. 11 anniversary. A consequence is that it keeps those involved in home & private education excluded. (Public educators have plenty of non-teaching administrators (on the public dole) to send.)
voting
Don't the delegates from the particular states have to vote at the RNC according to their state's primary or caucus results? I know there is some variability, but aren't they supposed to vote according to the people's voice? Could someone who understands this process better explain it to everyone, especially the relationship between the state's primary and the state's delegates who vote at the RNC. Thankyou
Also, what if there is a 2
Also, what if there is a 2 way or 3 way tie or close to a tie. The delegates become extremely important there.
Also, what if the establishment tries to override the people's choice with establishment delegates. We need to be represented.
If RP wins the popular vote, but
isn't the nominee because of delegate considerations... that's almost as good for the movement as an outright win because it really drives home just how corrupt the 2 party system is. (You mean, even if I'm a Party member and the most members want my guy, I still lose?! Where's my pitchfork.....)
Totally dependent on State law,
so therefore there are 50 different ways it works although they're all variations on a 4 or 5 themes. Oh, and don't forget about the territories like Guam, Puerto Rico, etc. They send delegates too.
DELEGATES ARE VERY IMPORTANT!
This thread needs to be stickied. We cannot forget the delegates as we NEED them to vote for Dr. Paul. The thing is you have to go and get a bunch of signatures for your delegates, and it is time consuming and if you are like us you will meet a lot of people with differing oppinoins. LET'S DO THIS
NOW! GO GO GO - We do not have a lot of time left
Florida Requirements To Be A Delegate
Who is eligible to become a delegate or an alternate?
All Republicans registered in Florida are eligible to run for election as a delegate or an alternate to the convention. Any person who wishes to run as a delegate or alternate for their specific congressional district should contact their respective Congressional District Chair. Any person wishing to run for an at-large seat should contact the Republican Party of Florida.
For more info:
http://rpof.org/rnc.php
thanks a bunch!
i've been muddling through links and hadn't figured out how yet to apply....
now i've done it.....keep your fingers crossed.
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Please research what is required in your state and post here.
Become a delegate in
Become a delegate in Arkansas:
http://www.arkansasgop.org/images/AR/AR_Delegate_Selection.pdf
Hey Dijkstra!
Does the link you provided mean you are in Arkansas??? I am in AR...Hot Springs to be exact.
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On RonPaulForums, I checked
On RonPaulForums, I checked my state for delegates (CA) and it said there was no need for more. Can I get a confirmation on this?
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I put my name in the hat...
As a National Republican Congressional Committee, Business Advisory Council member and former Army officer, I'm hoping those credentials and others gets me nominated. Keep your fingers crossed for Florida!
Keep up the good work people!
Delegates in EVERY State...
Becoming a delegate is a little different in every State. We here in Pennsylvania are moving to fill all 19 Congressional Districts with 76 unpledged republican delegates. We are gearing up for this next week. Paying the fee and collecting the required signatures. Everyone reading this who supports Ron Paul needs to call their State's Office of Elections and learn the process and do it.
Who
Who should I contact for info, possibly to help gather signatures, or become a delegate for my area- Central PA?
in my area our eligible voting population is
30%-don't vote for religious reasons
10% democrat
50% will vote for anyone if they're republican
6% Ron Paul (very few activists)
1% Rudy
2% Huckabee
1% other
Two pieces of apple pie
blogcruiser, I'm not saying that you do, but I wonder how many supporters fail to differentiate between signing up to vote (AKA: registering) and signing up as a delegate, previous explanations are not getting through. Someone should write a very brief HOW TO on this topic, making it as simple as Sesame Street.
Hey Bert, 'got a minute? Look here Bert, I have two pieces of apple pie. You have to register Republican to get the small piece of apple pie, and you have to sign up as a delegate if you want Ron Paul to get the big piece of apple pie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am1FSGV5wRg&feature=related
I signed up yesterday
I signed up yesterday myself. Well I signed up at the Pledge 4 Paul site anyway ( http://www.pledgeforpaul.com/ ). In South Carolina I have the choice to vote in which primary I want every year with out signing up. Of course I can only vote in one each year but it is the one of my choosing. I wish all the states were like that.
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let's keep reminding everyone.
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Don't be Scared
Words like "delegate" and "caucus" make things sound complicated, but it's not. You fill out an application, you request one day off of work, you vote and then you watch Ron Paul swear into office. Don't be scared, we're all new to this political stuff. And if you're still worried, send an email to the leader of a meetup group in your area. I'm sure that person will be more than happy to walk you through the whole process. I'm a 20 year old college student who is planning to send in my application within a week or so. If I can do it, you have NO excuse.
*bump* Thanks for the
*bump* Thanks for the overview of the process; I agree that many people might become scared or confused about the whole caucus thing.
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