I will be giving testimony at MIAC oversight committee Tuesday, July 28, 2009

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MISSOURI HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES INTERIM COMMITTEE ON STATE INTELLIGENCE ANALYSIS OVERSIGHT

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:00 P.M. CST

To hear public testimony on the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) and law enforcement intelligence and intelligence-related activities
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I have been in contact with the Chairman and am on the agenda to give testimony about the MIAC report, the Campaign for Liberty, and fusion centers in general.

I am going to try to set up a live webcast of the entire hearing if I can.

I have several things in mind to discuss, but I thought I would see what suggestions you have for comments or questions to pose to the committee.

I am also trying to find reference to joint exercises involving foreign agencies having access to local intelligence information. If anyone remembers where that story was, it was about a month ago or so, please leave a link.

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Last chance to give me your input

I'm putting together my notes and finalizing my comments for the hearing.

If anyone has any other input, please let me know.

I am going to do what I can to broadcast the hearing live.

I will post the live feed info as soon as I have it running.

EFF Demands Intelligence Agencies' Reports

Lawsuit Seeks Public Disclosure of Oversight Records Amidst New Questions About Accountability

In addition to the CIA, EFF's lawsuit names the Department of Homeland Security, the National Security Agency, the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice (including the FBI), the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Energy, and the Department of State -- all of which failed to comply with FOIA requests seeking records and reports of concerns about intelligence activity that might have stepped over the bounds of the law.

"The CIA is not the only agency that has faced questions about the legality of its intelligence programs," said EFF Staff Attorney Marcia Hofmann. "Electronic surveillance and other intelligence activities have come under increasing scrutiny during the past several years. We're seeking information that will shed light on incidents of intelligence misconduct, how often they happen, and how effective oversight is for controversial programs. The agencies must follow the law and release these records to the public."

full story
http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/07/22

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

My 2 cents...I would caution....

to not "tip your hand." You go prepared and let them tap dance for answers. It will only strengthen your/our position.

I found it! And its about to happen!

National Level Exercise 2009 (NLE 09) is scheduled for July 27 through July 31, 2009. NLE 09 will be the first major exercise conducted by the United States government that will focus exclusively on terrorism prevention and protection, as opposed to incident response and recovery.

NLE 09 will focus on intelligence and information sharing among intelligence and law enforcement communities, and between international, federal, regional, state, tribal, local and private sector participants.

This year the United States welcomes the participation of Australia, Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom in NLE 09.

http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm

Please email me,

Please email me, OFallonBrent, when you have a chance. I have no way of emailing you, and if you decide to bring along the letter I wrote, there is something missing that I would not wish to post here on a blog.

Thanks again...I hope you will be able to share the hearing with us live on the Internet! I will be there in spirit...

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

OFallenBrent:Here are a few

OFallenBrent:

Here are a few links that I consider to be very important to see before addressing the MIAC Committee. I am also going to give some commentary because you might not have the time to puzzle this out.

Missouri House Bill 1138: Would introduce "an oversight committee within the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC)." These committee members woulld be from the MO House of Representatives.
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills091/biltxt/intro/H...

Congressional Research Report for Congress, "Fusion Centers: Issues and Options for Congress." Pages 13-14 outline the federal regulations which govern most fusion centers. A quote from page 14: " The question, to which there is no definitive answer, raised here is how aggressive should fusion centers be in pro-actively collecting and analyzing intelligence that may go beyond that which may be entered into criminal intelligence systems that fall under federal law? Which entity at the federal level is auditing the activities of fusion centers to ensure civil liberties are not violated? Given that these centers are creations of state and local governments, should an entity of the federal government be the ultimate arbiter of civil liberties protection?" You also might look at page 54 of this report, which discusses the CFR regulations in more detail and in an understandable way. BTW if you have time, take a look at their discussion of fusion center funding. You really should also ask about fusion center funding: I was told by the MD ACLU that MD's fusion center is entirely federally funded. Other centers are either entirely funded by their states or receive a combination of federal or state funding. Find out the answer to that for MIAC. Here's the link: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/RL34070.pdf

Now on the Code of Federal Regulations. 28 CFR part 23 concerns "Criminal Intelligence Systems Operating Policies," which is fancy language for regulations regarding the collection of information about organized groups of criminals, such as those who do "loan sharking, drug trafficking...gambling, extortion...and corruption of public officials" (you get the picture without the full list). Law enforcement has a difficult time getting the information they need to catch these types of criminals unless they have some way of sharing the information among various police departments and other law enforcement agencies--an "interjurisdictional criminal intelligence system." A fusion center, composed as it is of various participating law enforcement agencies, federal, state, and local, is an example of this type of criminal intelligence system--therefore they should be governed by this regulation.

28 CFR 23.20 is especially important to those who are concerned about the monitoring of peaceful dissidents such as ourselves. 23.20 (a) states that "a project shall collect and maintain criminal intelligence information concerning an individual only if there is reasonable suspicion that the individual is involved in criminal conduct or activity...". I would point out, BTW, that this is based on the Fourth Amendment, which protects against "unreasonable searches and seizures...and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause...".

23.20 (b) states that "a project shall not collect or maintain criminal intelligence information about the political, religious or social views, associations, or activities of any group...or other organization unless such information directly relates to criminal conduct or activity and there is reasonable suspicion that the subject of the information is or may be involved in criminal conduct or activity." The Modern Militia Movement Report that MIAC put out does not conform to this standard, as far as I am concerned. This report profiled entire groups of people precisely because of their political beliefs.

The rest of 28 CFR 23.20 concerns itself with how the information is to be disseminated, protected, and eventually purged by the agencies collecting the information. This is pretty technical stuff, but it did figure in the original Maryland Freedom of Association and Assembly Protection Act (MD HB 182) which ultimately did not pass; the newer version (HB 311) eliminated all of those safeguards, which is why I made the statement in my letter to Bob Dixon that MD HB 311 as passed would allow Maryland's fusion center to continue to operate without significant oversight.

Link to the Code of Federal Regulations:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=14e...

Now, to sum up what I would ask if I were at the hearing tomorrow:

1. How is MIAC funded? If it is state or partially state funded, I would make the point that elected state officials should have the right to oversee its workings. If it is exclusively federally funded, I would still raise concerns about whether a federal agency should be permitted to operate without oversight within the state of Missouri.

2. Is the Missouri Information and Analysis Center following the guidelines laid out by the Code of Federal Regulations? As things stand now, there exists no significant oversight over fusion centers on the state or federal levels, and because of their secretive workings, there is no way to truly determine if they are following these regulations--regulations which are based upon the First and Fourth Amendments of the Constitution. BTW I would also point out the important differences between regulation, which is administered internally within departments, and legislation, which is introduced and overseen by officials elected by the people.

3. I would raise concerns about the role of the federal government in the legislation pending before the MO House of Representatives. It is very important that persons who believe they have been unfairly spied upon be able to retain their right to request information from the fusion centers with whatever freedom of information requests are available through the State of Missouri. In Virginia this right was taken away from its citizens through direct interference of the federal government in Virginia's legislative process.

I am out of time...I have to go out to dinner at a friend's house now. If you have any questions or concerns, though, please feel free to email me or contact me through this thread...I will stay up late if necessary to give you the information you need. I have a lot of research about fusion centers that I can share; I really wish you had posted your thread a few days earlier so I could have more time to communicate with you.

Again, please consider printing out my letter to the MIAC committee and hand delivering it to them. Missouri House Bill 1138 might be the last significant chance any state has at overseeing the workings of a fusion center...and they really need the accumulated wisdom of the failures of other states in their efforts.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

I'm on my way out the door also

But the hearing is not tomorrow, it is next week.

We'll have plenty of time to touch base before then.

Okay, that was embarrassing.

Okay, that was embarrassing. I get a phone call about MIAC and I think it's a roaring emergency :)

Liberty Belle says I forgot to post the link for my letter to the MIAC Committee...will do that tonight when I am at a real computer.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

Link to my letter to the

Link to my letter to the MIAC Committee:

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/98054

Don't forget to also look at the reference list of links at the end. And again, don't hesitate to contact me if I can be of any assistance :)

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

Why do we need state police

When the Sheriff is the highest law enforcement authority?

I would ask them about these foreign troops coming in under FEMA

I don't know if this is off topic for their discussion, but I'm really interested to know what the states would do if martial law is declared and foreign troops through FEMA come marching in to take over the states.

If that fact is disputed, we have the actual fema website stating such training is going on this month.

Ask about the funding,

What provision provides MIAC with tax payer dollars to fund spying and collecting information on fellow tax payers?

Sounds like to me....

....That the fusion centers were designed to militarize the police against the peons who questioned the ruling elite, but upon realizing the peons are no push overs nor are they "stupid" it has had the effect of backfiring on them instead in a quite severe manner....

All of a sudden the ruling elite appear to be more carnal & insane than their would be "critics", and officers are forced to acknowledge that their critics are probably right, as the public awakens from its collective stupor.

WAKE THE SHEEP UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I found the story on infowars

here is the link:

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-...

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"I think it would be a good idea"

Mahatma Gandhi,
when asked what he thought of Western civilization

Thanks for the link, but...

What I was looking for was a story about joint military exercises that included foreign troops. A part of the story discussed sharing intelligence data with foreign countries.

Since the fusion centers are designed to merge local, state, and federal databases, the local intelligence would be available to foreign countries.

I'll keep looking.

NLE09?

"What I was looking for was a story about joint military exercises that included foreign troops. A part of the story discussed sharing intelligence data with foreign countries."

Do you mean National Level Exercise 2009 / NLE09?
http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm

One last thing...I haven't

One last thing...I haven't found any information that would answer your specific question. Liberty Belle thinks she may have seen some information that may help...she thought she sent it to me also, but a computer crash caused me to lose an extensive favorites list I had on fusion centers. So keep bugging her to see if she can find it.

BTW your supposition is not at all implausible; I just have not found information that addresses it directly.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

GAC Global Advisory Committee~ Fusion Centers

Scroll list to see international sharing
http://www.iir.com/global/committee.htm

GAC and Fusion Centers
http://www.iir.com/search.cfm

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Ofallen~try this..

the NSI

The Nationwide SAR Initiative (NSI) is an outgrowth of a number of separate but related activities over the last several years that respond directly to the mandate to establish a “unified process for reporting, tracking, and accessing [SARs],” in a manner that rigorously protects the privacy and civil liberties of Americans, as called for in the National Strategy for Information Sharing (NSIS). The NSI process is a cycle of 12 interrelated operational activities, which address the requirements outlined in the NSIS. The long term goal is that most Federal, State, local, and tribal law enforcement organizations will participate in a standardized, integrated approach to gathering, documenting, processing, analyzing, and sharing information about suspicious activity that is potentially terrorism-related.

*** In addition to government agencies, private sector organizations responsible for Critical Infrastructure/Key Resources (CI/KR) and foreign partners are also potential sources for terrorism-related SARs.

http://www.ise.gov/pages/sar-initiative.html

*also see link in my above below ( Amicas letter ) . Damn.. I know I had found a pdf doc that listed all the agencies that are sharing data but I posted so many on this Fusion Center subject I cant find it now!!

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

oops, sorry

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"I think it would be a good idea"

Mahatma Gandhi,
when asked what he thought of Western civilization

OFallenBrent~heres a good one

to start...Amica Jefferoni's Letter to Bob Dixon...click on her link to read the full letter...great questions to Bob Dixon

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/98054

* I will try to find more..I know there were several posts with links on the agency relationships
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Bump, bump...

this letter is full of all kinds of goodies, print it, take it in hand and press it to them. Good luck

Assert Your Authority

Assert Your Authority

Bump! I just called her..lol!

sent the link to this post and called Amica for heads up!! ; - )

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Liberty Belle, glad you called...

I had been offline for a few hours and am going out to dinner tonight. Might not have seen this until it was too late.

BTW about the letter I sent to the MIAC committee: MO has pending legislation which would introduce oversight of their fusion center. No other state has really successfully done this...bills which might have created oversight were introduced last year in Maryland and New Mexico, but only MD's bill brought limited success. VA actually introduced and passed a bill which exempts fusion centers from the Virginia Freedom of Information Act...and the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) has found evidence that the federal government was behind this bill...so much for state sovereignty.

I did not receive any response from Dixon's committee, though I sent this letter via email and also printed it out and mailed it. I would be beyond honored if you printed it out and presented it in person.

Now on to what I would have you ask...let me get a few things together and get back to you on this. I would be especially concerned that the MO fusion center follows the regulations of 28 CFR 23; I briefly described what that is in my MIAC letter, but can pull something more detailed together for you so you can have a look. I believe most fusion centers know they are supposed to follow this regulation, but as things stand now there is no way to know (beyond their statements and promises) that they really ARE following this reg, because they operate secretly and without oversight by the people or elected officials.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

Amica...ahem..I think you meant

for most of this to go to OFallenBrent...since you know I am not going to MO from NC! lol! Good info!! Send him an email through contact and attach your letter to Dixon too!
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"I would be beyond honored if you printed it out and presented it in person."

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Ask who gave permission for a MO fusion center

Art 1 Sec 3 of mo constitution:

Section 3. That the people of this state have the inherent, sole and exclusive right to regulate the internal government and police thereof, and to alter and abolish their constitution and form of government whenever they may deem it necessary to their safety and happiness, provided such change be not repugnant to the Constitution of the United States.

Great News OFallen

I'm looking forward to the live webcast.

Be careful you don't fall for the

trap that they'll point out that it wasn't said that C4L people were terrorists or that someone couldn't get pulled over for just having such bumper stickers. The truth is, why publish specific information about any group of people unless there was the intention to act on that information? If the argument that they weren't going to act on the information was to stand, why did they spend money on the report in the first place when they could have spent money on education that could or even should be acted upon?

Defend Liberty!

LOL, as far as traps...

I plan on laying them, not falling into them!