Ok, you convinced me, 9-11 was just like the government said it was
Submitted by MikeLawson on Wed, 07/22/2009 - 12:23
There's no need to look into the matter any further. It's all been decided at the very highest levels and you don't get to the very highest levels by withholding information from the people. We have never been lied to before and we probably never will be in the future, so I'm going to stop questioning what the government does because I now realize it's for my own good. Thank you government and thank you all the wonderful government employees who have helped me see the light through your informative posts and intellectual approach to the subject. You are true patriots and deserve a medal for your bravery.
God bless America. Land of the free.
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Wow Mike, took you long enough to see the light....
Now just one little thing to go: roll up your sleeve and have the treasured flu shot and you will be good as gold. Congrats!
Gold medals!!!
"You are true patriots and deserve a medal for your bravery."
Yes, yes they are deserving of the mostest bestest medals this government can provide. So long as our representatives in the House and Senate pay for the medals out of their own pockets. I say they be 95%+ platinum, encrusted with rare sapphires and rubies, and struck in the shape of the all-seeing eye.
I think
I was a 9/11 truther but now I believe in Santa Claus again.
I think it was the 3rd or 4th reason NIST gave for the collapse of the towers that convinced me.
The "Thermal expansion" idea. WOW. That just blew my mind. After a 100 years of steel frame building fires we finally got to the bottom of the mystery.
Thank all of you who debunked 9/11 truthers for me. You really know how to make a government sympathizer smile.
I now can go back to my life.
I hope I was a good boy this year so Santa will bring me lots of gifts.
"You can take my life but you will never take my freedom."
You can take my life but you will never take my freedom.
And in the end
"And in the end, he loved Big Brother."
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Well, I think he's coming around quite nicely
Just remember that conspiracies never happen and you'll be fine. It took me a while to forget about all that silly evidence that has been piling up for years..complete and utterly absurd nonsense.
I gotta go..Beck is on...now there's a man who knows the truth. If Beck says all 9/11 Truthers are insane nutjobs then that is what we HAVE to believe because he knows everything.
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"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
yesssss...
and god blesssssss..ussssss .....
preciousnesssssesssssssssssss...........
god blessssss ussssssesssss every onesssssssss.
go mike go!
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hey
i can do harmony on that one.....
lmao.
your re-education has been successful. you are now ~free~ to go about your business.
People defending
the lies of a gov't run amok are, well, uhhh, defending the lies of a gov't run amok.
That about sums it up.
Ron Paul calls for a new investigation.
This is my last post on this.....
I give you my word, regardless of what you say back to me, this will be my last post on this thread... This is a response from Tsorey:
"listening to other people again.
Just view the evidence and make you own conclusions.
Toss the government version.
Toss the truth version.
Far better chance at the truth.
Can't we talk about the owners of the fed?....Please!"
This struck sympathy and guilt in me, so thank you Tsorey. Look, its hard because if I just use what I think is logical, then I am blind and not awake to the truth, but then they will say that 63 (or whatever odd number) architects have stated this or that (yet there are over 100 fed economists that say RP is an idiot, yet WE ALL know the truth). Then I will use what other people say and im told its wrong too. Ok, I agree and I go back to wanting to let this die. What we need to do is come together, truther or not (but I guess I am a truther too in one definition of the word) and focus on common goals and common enemies and take back this country because debating this issue seems really silly now... And unimportant/irrelevant to be honest. Thats the last out of me (for this thread)
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HELLO . . . . hello . . . . . . . hello . . .
Man, there is quite an echo in here
:)
There would have to be... everything that is being ~brought up~ as evidence of the official story in this thread is just regurgitated old news that anyone that can do basic math has debunked years ago.
I liked the OP tho.
So nothing to really do here except stop feeding the troll that hijacked the thread, which I'm going to do now.
~wavin~
~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
And Im getting full....
..and this troll has not been answered yet, ive done alot of answering, without using alot of typing. You can say that these things are old and have "debunked" yet you dont have proof that they have, just your words. Look, I cant help myself...
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Sorry...
It's just hard to respond to anyone who actually defends the ~official~ version of 911 anymore. We may just as well talk about Santa Claus or Flat-Earth theory. Although it may be an interesting conversation, in the end it's really not going to matter. You taking the time to cut-and-paste entire topics from debunker sites does not really enthuse me enough to reply in kind, simply because all the objections you have raised have already been debunked, shredded, laughed at and dismissed. So you telling me to watch 30 videos of 300 people telling me that 600 = 1100 isn't really going to cut it. At the end of the day, 600 is still not going to equal 1100, no matter how many people say it.
All the facts are out there and available to you. If you wish to defend the official version that is of course your right. However, you are a member of an increasingly diminishing group of people in America, much less the civilized world. Wish you luck with that.
It's not my ~job~ to reply to Untruthers anymore. Not my job to spoonfeed you truth, not my job to do your homework for you. I feel that critical mass has already been reached on this subject.. it's just a matter of time before those that want to wake up will. Those that won't are not going to matter anymore.
I was responding on this thread to the origional post, is all. I thought it funny.
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Well actually....
I cant help myself to correct you... Actually, do you want to make a private bet on that? I can PM you and we can bet to see how much the truther movement has shrinked quite tremendously in the last year (quote: time, newsweek and the economist). THAT IS A FACT. Do you want to know why?! Its very simple... Are you ready?..... Bush is done with his term!!! Martial Law was never declared!!! The Constitution was never "fully" suspended (besides trampled on with the PATRIOT.. not defending that)! Iraq and Afghan were disasters! The people despised Bush/Cheney!!! And none of it was the credit of AJ!
Look, you keep assuming things. You keep putting up straw mans and red herrings.. I never said I am defending the "official" version. I am with Ron Paul, I believe we need another investigation, BUT DAMN! RP BELIEVES LIKE ME!!! I HAVE ASKED HIM MY SELF!!!!!! HE VOTED TO GO INTO AFGHANISTAN!!!!
Your next point: (God knows why I keep investing time into people who have no concept of objective thinking and being rationale.. its frustrating... like debating with children)... Debunking sites: Ok, so what did you want me to do? Go get an engineering degree and do it myself? I just imbibe, digest and regurgitate knowledge (just like you do, jack.. your lying if you say you dont) that I read on both sides with an objective mind and I come with a conclusion, just like most people SHOULD (not that all people do). Ok, but my challange to that part of them ALL BEING DEBUNKED is where? Where did you get your infomation, smart guy?! Did you know I spent at least 8 hours yesterday looking up this subject, because of these debates we have been having?! I looked up the so called "debunking" and read pretty much the only "debunking the debunkers" and that was by David Ray Griffin. Thats pretty much one of the only sources out there that tries to do that and its pretty much aimed at Popular Mechanics. Yet there are like 3 manuals out there debunking David R. Griffin and there are TONS of materials out there that came out PAST that book. David's book was pretty much the only book of its kind and what is David Ray Griffin's expertise come from?! Mormon theology mixed with physics. He tried to prove that Jesus came to America.... Show me one other source that tries to debunk "all the debunkers"... Its garbage. Who is one being naive here?
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Pinocchio Award
The Government wins the Pinocchio Award for being honest..yep
And they should get an award for that magic trick they did too
the 3 buildings 2 planes....The fact the UK talked about the 3rd building falling 45 minutes before it fell
I would really love to learn their neat trick on making the vendors disappear for a day...And all that gold too....oh and the documents about ENRON ....BRAVO
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That's better, Mike...
You were scaring the children anyway...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
The governments good....
The governments great. We surrender our will, as of this date.
Yo Mike...I'm with ya brother
According to the NIST this jet fuel (kerosene) is pretty dangerous stuff....but since I believe everything the government says now I figured it would do what they say it can do.
They said that 6000 gallons of this kerosene can do quite a bit of damage to a steel framed structure...I mean quite a bit...we saw what it can do on national TV and NIST has held with the analysis....
6000 gallons of this stuff can turn 160,000 tons of building material into powder.....yep....nasty nasty nasty. Make ya wonder why in hell anyone would get on an airliner now don't it?
Now my neighbor, Christine has a 1979 Mercedes 300Diesel sedan...based on the NIST the 6 gallons of diesel in her car (she's out of work so she never keeps any fuel in the car) or 1/10th of 1% of the fuel load that hit WTC one has enough destructive force to turn 160 tons of building materials into powder and eject it about 500 feet into the air.
I'm tellin' Chris..."Honey that car is dangerous...you should trade it in"
So we checked the owner's manual and we called Mercedes Benz USA and they had no idea what we were talking about....then we started thinking.
Holy freaking sh$#....!
She buys her diesel at the local Shell on the rotary...so we went down there Monday morning and warned them to get the hell outta there as they have enough diesel in their tanks to turn 160,000 tons of concrete and steel into powder and blow it to New Jersey...which is a hell of a shot cuz we live in Connecticut!
The folks at the gas station said to settle down, but, one of the kids in the back had called the cops.
Couple cruisers show up and Christie and I get a disturbing the peace citation with a no trespass order at the Shell station from judge Donnelley which totally screws Christie cuz how the hell is she gonna buy diesel for the car now?
We went to court to for the first charge and our star witness the effing NIST didn't show up! Those bastids at the NIST! The Shell station wins and we gotta pay a hundred dollar fine and if I walk over there for a Dr. Pepper they will arrest me.
Be careful about believing everything the government says...you might lose your privileges at the Shell station.
Unify
Another NIST answer....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A7memNoP1s
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and here is my own answer.....
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
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here is something interesting...
http://www.maniacworld.com/9-11-conspiracy-theories-debunked...
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Love how they twist stuff...
There is also FLIR documentation that shows that the fires leveled out to roughly 410 degrees fahrenheit shortly after the impacts.
Of course, we also won't get into after the collapse, where satellite imagery shows the molten metal at the sites at roughly 3,800 degrees fahrenheit, which isn't possible in a hydrocarbon fire. I would guess they'd explain it away as friction, or something. Oh wait... they don't have to explain it because they say there wasn't any.
Nah.. I'm not going to go there.. it's easier just forgetting facts and swallowing the government lie whole. After all, they know what's best for me! So now I'm trying to get a home-based shop going where I do steel artwork using teacandles as my cutters and shapers.
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~whew~ lmfao.
"So now I'm trying to get a home-based shop going where I do steel artwork using teacandles as my cutters and shapers."
that was outstanding devon.
Molten Metal, you say?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YXzjAKJQOg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHzMttUKO0
http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
WTC 7: http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz...
I rest THIS case (I got plenty more where that came from)
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Keep pumping it then....
Let's just throw away eyewitness reports, satellite imagery, any documented proof at all that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was indeed molten steel in the footprints. After all, it can't really be debunked, so let's just ignore it!
I'm with you here.. I don't care anymore! After all, the time for trying to be rational is over now. A real critical thinker is a dinosaur in our society.. it is time to conform or be assimulated.
I bought an XBox.. what's really important to me now is the new Wolverine game. I at least get some sort of results out of a video game, after all. If I'm going to live in a fantasy world where 19 men with boxcutters pulled 911 off, I might as well have fun doing it.
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~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
Did you actually watch the videos?
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Where is the eye witness accounts?
I just hope the "eye witness accounts" didnt come from an AJ or loose change film only. As we already had a poster here, on my last post titled "911 truth?" that said he was actually working, cleaning up the mess at the site and he never said he saw any of it. Thats all, just playing D's advocate. Dont kill the messenger.
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Hey lordindra3 You Are On The Wrong Side We Won This Battle
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a long time ago and now it's just a matter of time before it unfolds and justice takes place. Architects and Engineers will finish the job.Refute Richard Gage and his crowd (which is impossible), your wasting your time here...
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