Danger ahead: NEOCONS created the BIRTHERS! Tricks and Slight of....
Danger ahead: NEOCONS created the BIRTHERS! Tricks and Slight of hand will sure come to light sooner or later.
When Dr. Paul was getting popular WND -the neocon/zionist webrag- mobilized its huge evangelical base to support Huckabee, WND then directly attacked Dr.Paul's candidacy and its chances. It was a clearly and obviously and orchestrated attack on the freedom campaign. This happened at the same time that the zionist henchmen started to throw dirt in the doctor's direction and the accusations of racists connections started to fly off the elite's shelves.
Now, no surprise, as the movement to audit the fed, a movement that will provide us with substantial, life changing rewards, starts to take off, WND starts a massive campaign to energize the evangelical conservatives to focus in the issue of the birth certificate.
I don't know if you have seen these evangelical conservatives, but that ones that show up at the tea parties and wear the 'let's kill all furraignors' t-shirts are not very liberty minded. It will do our movement absolutely no good to align itself with them.
This issue could be a single distraction, used to divide and conquer, or as some commenter at the DailyPaul.com say, it could be an issue with a nefarious unknown goal. One person mentioned that they could use it to get American's who support Obama to think of the Constitution as an obsolete document.
No matter what their goals, pursuing this distract us from our main objective; Ending the Fed! The first and most important goal on our drive towards restoring the Republic.
Fighting real or imaginary Kenian monsters, bring us not one step closer to freedom. Remember; we set the conversation, we set the goals, we set the tone. We don't let neocon/zionist rags like WND distract us off our goal. There is no reward for freedom in the birthers fight.
Let the Neocons/Zionists fight the birth fight. We END THE FED!! :)
Boris in Miami
P.S; Here is a related article: "That commenter on your blog may actually be working for the Israeli government " http://www.dailypaul.com/node/100123
it wasn't the neo cons who started it.
it was the neo nazis.
stupid argument.... right is
stupid argument.... right is right and wrong is wrong.. If the Constituition is being violated it is our responcibility to stop what is going on.. yes I know we the people have been lazy in doing our duties. People come along who question the POTUS's status because the idiot will not prove his eligibility and people like borismo try to shoot them down.. very stupid post.. I have provided an audio tape from a man named Dr. Steve Pieczenik.. he has first hand knowledge that 911 was an inside job.. but people like borismo pooh pooh him.. To those true Patriots on the Dailypaul... watch out for posts like this.. All this is- is a distraction. I really have to question borismos motivation for posting something like this.
Let the truth be known.... now, I have been on the daily paul for over 2 years.. Micheal in his ultimate wisdom decided to ban my other name.
so do not let my short time with this name distract you.. 911,
the eligibility question and many others are just as important as ending the fed.. they all end up in the same place and take us down the same path..yes the fed is an important issue, but shining light on the lies and deceit that goes on in DC is just as important. Why is it some people just have a hang up when it comes to uncovering the truth?
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Here are my motives BAD KARMA....
The birth certificate issue went mainstream after months being pushed with great force by evangelical / zionist / neocon World Net Daily.
World Net Daily is a Zionist / Neocon propaganda machine which has shown itself to be antiliberty and which attacked Ron Paul's campaign as it was starting to go mainstream.
If you go to WND's page today you will notice that their front page is all about the birth certificate with NOT ONE WORD about the Federal Reserve!
I don't trust this NEOCON / ZIONIST rag anymore than I trust Rush Limbaugh or Cheney himself.
In my opinion this is a most blatant attempt to instigate a monster LEFT vs Right fight focused on the puppet and away from the real powers behind the Federal Reserve.
Will you follow the Neocon / Zionists into a fight that promises no reward, or will you keep your focus on the fight that will define America in the years to come?
Boris in Miami
"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment." ~ Annica2
Insightful. In order to see
Insightful. In order to see past the smoke and mirrors act one must use their intellect. Knee-jerk subscription to the politics of fear and loathing will not free a single soul, much less this country.
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
Canada says: "STOP HITTING THE PUPPET!"
This is a great comment from DP member Canada:
"Please! Stop it. Stop attacking the puppet! Each puppet gets replaced with a brand new one every 4 or 8 years. Meanwhile, bad guys are picking your pockets. They're stealing your identity. That's right. They've stolen your credit card numbers and picture IDs and they're running around in foreign countries running up a huge bill in your name. And crying, "but but but, it wasn't me! I swear!" isn't going to make this problem go away. You are going to be held accountable, if you don't do something.
I know, I know you've got a new puppet. I know how much you enjoy playing with and obsessing over your puppets, but it's time to put the toy down and pay attention because some serious shit is going down now.
Here's your choice:
1) Keep playing with your puppet. Have fun talking with your friends about where your puppet was born and where his mommy and daddy are from!
2) Tell the Fed to shove the puppet up their ass, and hand over the balance sheet to the trust fund. You're done playing with toys."
"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment." ~ Annica2
Bravo
Nicely done.
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
That's why Palin resigned
The Supreme Court will rule that the election should have gone to McCain, and we'll have President McCain and Vice President Palin. Palin is just getting ready for her new office.
Seriously, though, there is a lot to fear -- first the race riots, then burned-out cities, then the unemployment and inflation, then oil shortages (now called "peak oil") and the "malaise" of the 1970's.
Just another war of
Just another war of political distraction.
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
I can't help but agree.
Perhaps Obama has paid the money to keep his records shut, signed the executive order to seal birth certificates, yada yada yada...to merely create the environment that would foster the suspicions needed to outrage the far right and incite all their anger? What if it is all just a massive distraction as suggested in the article? Yeah Biden doesn't have the clout that Obama does with the people in this country but do you honestly believe he'd be a better President??? And Pelosi would be the VP???
If it comes out that he is indeed not a natural born citizen, then there will be all hell to pay in this country. This movement needs to focus on HR1207 and its Senate counterpart. This is real, this is of most importance. For all we know, the Obama birther crap could very well be a massive psyop designed to do just what this article states. Eye on the prize everyone. Forget the head, this monster is a hydra...lets get its heart!
Battle on ALL Fronts!
I think hammering "them" on all issues would demoralize them more than picking just one issue. If that one issue goes away, we're over.
The "Birth Certificate" issue is about the Constitution, we all support that.
It may be a Hail Mary pass, but If it gets through it will be a major blow to the "powers that be".
It was an issue long before WND got on the bandwagon, but I'm glad they keep pushing the issue, gives us more time for other issues.
(how many times did I use "issue"?)
sorry I dont buy it.
I think your confusing the facts here, people are finaly starting to question "the establishment" and guess what, there's a LOT of shit to question, all of them discract from the others, which is more important? 9/11? B.O.'s citizen ship? the Fed? the Kennedy assasination? maybe even a possible moon landing hoax?
the list goes ON and ON.
this is a part of the "rules for radicals" (read this book) you overwhelm the system, its a tatic, it doesnt mean anyone thing is fake or "made up".
I agree that we need to pick one fight and focus on it, and guess what, we have, HR1207 is extremely successful and the fact that barney frank is sitting on it will only garnish more support IMO.
this thread is a distraction, call your senator and make sure he's on board with the senates equivalant to HR1207, dont waste time pointing out that we are wasting time..
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
It all boils down to this.
If BO has really spent a million dollars to avoid disclosure and there actually is another kind of document in Hawaii that has not been produced - he's guilty. There is no other explanation, but as a practical matter - there's Biden.
Do what you wish sir, but I have somehow found the time
to tackle all of these issue and will continue to do so. Call me any of the names the media has created, I don't care. I just want the truth, not excuses, justifications and lies.
"Stop the Mainstreamers!"
The very word "birther," like "Truther," is an epithet used to marginalize. I reject this label and yet I do want Obama to release all of his records or be removed from office.
Moreover, the naive dualism of some of the posts below is disturbing. "End the Fed!" they say, "but no one may be interested in anything else." I don't see any conflict with chewing gum and walking at the same time, sorry.
Some anti-religious bigots on this site want to have nothing to do with theism. However, instead of rejecting the religious conservatives, we need to embrace them and in fact they are already a part of our movement.
There is also a false premise running through this thread. Neocons did not invent the term "birther," but the neo-libs (the MSNBC & Obama zombie crowd) who are defending Obama.
Finally, I just want to decry the "mainstreamers" on this site, some of whom are trolls or paid propagandists and some of whom just believe that by allying themselves with the Establishment on some if not all issues they will gain credibility or intellectual stature. Yet, I wonder why everyone here is not up in arms about what is an obvious postmodern style coup that we have undergone.
P.S. Jon Stewart is an Establishment shill, gatekeeper, and idiocracy creator/cheerleader. In my view, if he is making fun of this, then there is probably some truth to it.
I like what your saying, BUT.
SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
I'll leave it at that, religion has NO PLACE on this site except to keep people free to choose.
I think your confusing this with religious bigotry, its not.
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
Can't we do both?
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~ Margaret Mead
Umm.. Here's my response
I agree that the Federal Reserve issue is by far the most important issue due to the traction, but I must express that I also find the story about Obama's citizenship to also be very important and it's rather easy to discuss from my end as I have been researching this story for years.
All Obama has to do is release his birth certificate and we can be done with this matter. It's a rather simple request and to see that he's spent nearly a million dollars to block the release of this important Constitution requirement means this story has legs. All we have to do is ask for the release of his birth certificate and deal with the story from that end. Remember, Obama promised the people more transparency so he's literally in a catch-22 by his own words.
Ending the fed is the greatest idea in our lifetime.
Telling people to stop being curious and asking questions about the Usuper Soretoro is likely one of the dumbest ideas ever. I share everyones passion for restoring constitutional government and sound economics, but to tell me that I am wrong for asking for proof that the president I am forced to follow is even elligible or if 2 planes crash into 2 buildings but 3 fall... to tell me that I am wrong for asking those questions is foolish.
If you don't want to spend your time on it or think it's unimportant then work with me when I am working agaisnt the Fed. But don't try to stop me or anyone from being concerned about REAL issues.
It's a shame when we start to turn on each other because we aren't cheerleading in the same fashion as another. Shameful.
Aku Soku Zan
Aku Soku Zan
birther
I can't stand the birther movement.
It was amusing at first, but now it's just a constant nagging with constant threads about it.
See Shishio post below.
end
It does not matter even if he was born in the White House
He can never be a Natural Born Citizen because his father owed alligence to another sovreignty (i.e., not USA) at the time of his birth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP2dTn9SKnw&feature=channel_page
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
He signed.....
......An executive order demanding that no birth records be released.
I think all Americans have a right to ask about it and find out what is going on here, they should demand it.
It's not even legal if he's in office at this point so demand an answer
But I don't think that everyone should try to throw him out, not at the expense of the real issues such as the Fed & Global taxes....
I can't stand the 'go back to sleep sheep' movement.
They sound like the kind of people that would have laid down and wrapped themselves in the warmth of the british crown in 1776. Makes me sick.
Aku Soku Zan
Aku Soku Zan
I noticed...
it could be that you've been proven wrong on the topic about 45645645645 times, but yet you still keep posting in the threads.
An odd habit you've got there...
~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
"NEOCONS created the BIRTHERS! Tricks and Slight of...."
GARBAGE! They might be the ones who gave the titles (birthers, truthers), but I don't adhere to titles less by choice.
Our Forefathers and The Constitution they formed has given light where there was no light, shown tyranny as they lived it, what to be aware of. This thread is the ole too often "doublespeak"! "Mumbo-jumbo, twist-'em-up."
So, what are the "end-the-fed'ers" called? "Fed'er End'ers"? Alright! Oh, sorry, "The Ron Paul Revolution!"
Greed is the ultimate crime against humanity.
. . .
Now I have to wonder about the poser? oop, I mean poster who may be deliberately tryin' to throw the folks here off of any viable path by postin' this thread to their real identity?:
"That commenter on your blog may actually be working for the Israeli government"
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/100123
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End the Fed! ~for your viewing pleasure...
Rally for the Republic! END THE FED!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTAw2v-mXGo
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
ERASE the law & it will go
ERASE the law & it will go away, Or distract the law & it will get dropped.
For every action there is an equal & opposite reaction, % of NWO.
To hide a smoke screen ,make a smoke screen.
YES, good people do good things.. The rest are liars.
Oh boy, do I agree with THIS!
I have some family members who are into president bashing or worship... depending on which party is "in" at the time. I have repeatedly asked that our e-mail communications be on a more personal note, but they continue with their neo con mailings. Finally I began to retort with information about the Fed, saying that THAT is where we taxpayers should be focusing, rather than the petty rivalries between the parties, divisions that are distracting from what is leading to the downfall of our country. Rather than focusing on Republicans vs Democrats, we should be focusing on the Federal Reserve vs All Americans! I don't think I will change their minds, but I sure do feel better about the whole thing!
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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick
. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!
Consider this a muti-front path to the truth,as in multi-tasking
Any one of them that finds success and brings the truth to light will be a plus.
We don't know which one will be the one, so it seems that we shouldn't put all of our eggs/hopes in one basket, especially one controlled by politician's votes.
THEY used to call it " THE
THEY used to call it " THE MELTING POT"...Now it's called, the laughing stock..
YES, good people do good things.. The rest are liars.