I have followed this birth certificate issue for a loooong time

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Long before the name "birther" was created.
I learned what "natural born citizen" means, and why Obama is none.
Despite his missing birth certificate.
Had nauseating comment exchanges with Obots, that were just following some instructions. Paid bloggers I suppose.
They mistake "native" "natural born" "naturalized" as well as "Certification" and "Certificate".
Nobody could ever give me a reason why he did not simply produce the requested evidence.
All that beside the fact that his fathers allegiance made him automatically inelegible.
"You are racist" "get over it" blabla.
Laughable, given the fact that my husband is African American and I am not a citizen (ergo - he's not my president anyway).
All the time it was nearly impossible to get media coverage, other than some internet radio shows and blogs.
All of a sudden Olberman, Dobbs and others discuss the issue.
Of course by making the same mistakes.
Is he a citizen? Is he an American? etc.

It would not surprise me, if this is all orchestrated, because the work behind the scenes is completed.
In other words he will soon have something to show.
What's Your take?

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He can't have something to

He can't have something to show that will excuse the fact that his father is not an American citizen. Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, he's not natural born - unless the man he claims is his father isn't, and the father on his bc is a citizen (but then we'd all know he was conning us all along).

Your question comes from: Why wouldn't they just pick a natural born citizen to do their dirty work?

Because they have been getting away with screwing the American people for so long, they think they can do anything. They want him. He's their slick, charasmatic sociopath, the anti-Bush. Zero allegiance and a Marxist like his father, he's committed to world gov't. They got the dirt on him. He's even genetically one of them: a Cheney relative. There may be other reasons we can't guess.

Whatever he is, his face disturbs me

It is not a warm, open face like say Reagan's. It to me is cold, calculating, insincere, patronizing, smug, sneering...his attitude strikes me as though he sees himself in the middle of some game and we are just his pawns. And that he deserves to be king.

I really don't see what all his "Obots" (lol - good word) are so enchanted by.
If he were standing on the same side of the street as me, I would cross the street damn fast just to get away from his bad energy.
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Obama Conspiracy?

OK if you want a conspiracy how about this? Obama has been pushing this to create this controversy to his advantage. Of course he's not going to clear this up to keep the "birthers" appearing like nuts, and, at the same time, it diverts attention from his policies. The MSM is happy to help him out.

Indonesian.

Obama is racially Indonesian. Simply look at his face. There's a reason his "look-alike / body double" is from Indonesia. So, it's no surprise he grew up in Indonesia. People think he is the son of a black man and white woman just because of his skin color. But look at his face.

Either his father of record is not his father, or his mother of record is not his mother, or both.

And don't give me this "Obama's true father was Frank Marshall Davis" crap. Maybe he helped raise him, but he doesn't even look like him.

The reason to bring this out into the media is to discredit the story before the birthers get all their facts together.

Ultimately, it is a distraction, because the Constitution is threatened in many other more relevant ways than to let a non-natural born be President.

Why don't you talk about auditing the FED or something?

I doubt

Obama is an Indonesian. I am very familiar with Indonesians and South Asians. Obama is very tall. They are short. Obama has curly hair. They have straight hair. Indonesians have Asiatic type eyes. I've also seen alot of the models in Indonesia who are European/Indonesian mixes and they look nothing like Obama.

End the Fed? Why can't one talk about both? Why can't you stop telling people what to talk about? Stop hiding your head in the sand.

I agree with you, but I brought this thread back up.....

to ask about another BC thread that I cannot find...it was more about his heritage and it was interesting. I was on a different computer when I started reading it and now I can't find the thread. Geez...I just want to finish the article!

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The 4-part video post today,

called something along the lines of "Address to the WTO and NWO"--in that video the speaker fully discloses Obama's heritage. Is that the one you were previously viewing??
Here's the youtube link to part I:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MddNty2cF9E&feature=channel_page

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It's a dead issue now.


I don't mean to pour water on your fire, but this issue will never unseat Obama.

You could have photos of his birth in a Kenya hospital, produce a Kenyan birth certificate and have a slew of affadavits from the medical personnel who personally witnessed Obama's birth. None of this matters, even if it's true beyond a reasonable doubt.

Obama's got the Big Chair and he's staying put. This is the Mafia you're up against. Truth has no bearing on the powerful elite. They are 'made guys' and they are not going anywhere.

This birther stuff is a bit like a hovering mosquito to them. It's of no consequence, but it is annoying.

Just my 2 cents' worth, but you might want to put your fine intellect and energies into something that will profit you.

Much of their power derives

Much of their power derives from not being questioned for so long. Above all, they fear the sheep waking. When a military man demanded Obama prove he's natural born before he would deploy, they said, "OK, you don't have to go." They have enough power to do that, but not enough to survive in court with the entire public glued to the proceedings.

Someone started a thread (or made a post?) with a link ....

to an article called The Three Stooges go to Washington. I saw it yesterday and now I can't find it. It was about the BC issue. Anyone know the thread I'm referring to?

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Thomas Paine

"We need to attract people who create more light, than heat" (Fortune cookie-8/14/2001)

Roland Martin is angry and crazy!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvYcFgXCJrE

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huh???????????

"Nobody could ever give me a reason why he did not simply produce the requested evidence."

Yes they did. Hawaiians don't have access to the certificate of live birth but only the certification because that's what the State GIVES TO THEM. The State keeps their certificate to itself. No Hawaiian resident has access to his or her certificate of live birth.

One can obtain a copy of ones birth certificate

even in Hawaii.However, Obama must request and authorize its release. This is the very thing he has refused to do. If he does that, and he's legit, it will all go away. So why, I and many others wonder, does he not do it!

There was a woman with twins born the day after Obama and she showed a photostat of the long form birth certificate. It is nothing like the apparently forged "Certificate of Live Birth" that Obama's people have been spreading around.

It is not conspiratorial to request the release of sealed or hidden documents. Isn't that exactly what we are doing with End the Fed?!

and what about his school, medical and passport records

just for a start.
Obama is blocking everything.
If he (even as president LOL) cannot get a copy of his long form BC.
Poor thing!
Then why is he threatening people who ask for release of his occidental college papers?
Doesn't make sense.
Unless....

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Look up the acceptable documents for a HI driver's license

I don't think his COLB makes the cut.

Frank Marshal Davis is Obama's real father.

That is the reason why Obama is hiding his birth certificate. Davis was a member of the communist party of the USA and mentored young Obama from the age of 10. Obama's mother was sexually active at a very young age [some think 13 and the subject of Davis's pornographic book] I have hunted the internet for the last two nights and have found logical evidence that Obama is in fact Davis's son. If you look at pictures of Obama next to Davis they look almost identical except that Obama has lighter skin. Pictures of Obama next to Obama senior do not show any resemblance. I read on a few websites that Davis use to smoke dope with Obama's Grandfather in Hawaii. One other interesting thing is that Davis spent time in Chicago before moving to Hawaii in 1948. Davis wrote a book [pornographic book] under another name [Greene] describing an affair with a young white girl named Ann [Obama's mother's name]. Obama's mother appears to have slept around in her youth and I was surprised to see nude pictures of her on Google Images. This origin for Obama would explain many things: how Obama got from Ocidental to Columbia to Harvard and then to Chicago [Obama just mysteriously starts his adult life in Chicago?] Frank Marshal Davis was purported to know William Ayers in the 70's which flys in the face that Obama saying "Ayers is just a guy in his neighborhood". Someone needs to try to do a DNA test to determine if Obama is in fact Davis's son. If Obama is found to be Davis's son that would explain the birth certificate issue as Obama would have never been elected had the public known his father/mentor was such a staunch racial communist. Look on Youtube under Pastor Manning, he made an excellent video on this subject.

Still

then both of his parents would be US citizens.
Even given the fact he was really born in Hawaii, what about Soetoro?
He did after returning from Indonesia never go through immigration.
His name is Barry Soetoro.
Remember the second oath?
It was not public, why?

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"I think it would be a good idea"

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Even if

people knew his dad was Davis, if our mob wanted him elected and they did, he would have been if for no other reason than voter fraud, but also because half of our country is socialist now. Many of us knew what you are saying and we knew it before he was elected and it would not go anywhere because the media is mob. The leftists that I have talked to are fine with our country going communist.

Ive only heard a rebuttal of this recently

That two different Hawaii newspaper reported his birth in 1961.Is there a copy of these newspapers back then, This is new spin being passed by msm as proof Obama is a citizen.Has anyone verified or seen a copy of the supposed newspapers?

The short-form bc contains

The short-form bc contains no doctor signature and no hospital name, etc. What's more, b/c Hawaii is so loose in their rules for issuing short-form bcs, a relative living in Hawaii can swear a baby was born in Hawaii, and they'll issue a short-form bc. The birth announcement is automatically triggered when a short form is issued. The mother or grandparent could have lied to get him citizenship if born in Kenya. However citizenship is not enough to qualify for the presidency. You must be a natural-born citizen, meaning he'd have to be born on US soil and both his parents be American citizens. So even if he was born in Hawaii, he's not qualified.

Go to http://www.youtube.com/user/DrOrlyTaitz

http://www.obamacitizenshipfacts.org/

Well..

It is actually a copy from library-stored microfiche. As in a bit of film that anyone with access to a highschool graphics art department can make and replace the other with.

Which is why nobody in thier right minds would call it proof of birthplace... except Obama supporters.

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even if the newspaper announcement is real

What does it proof?
That somebody (grandma?) set an announcement in the newspaper.
not more.
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"I think it would be a good idea"

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It seems that they can get 60's old news paper announcing

Mr. Hope's birth, but that darn long form BC is to difficult to get, what are the odds. His father's citizenship to U.K should also be a question that should be ask on the MSM, then his Indonesian adventure and so fort.

Hawaii

The birthplace of his father is the key to this.

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I think there's a dog getting ready to be wagged very soon

I too have been aware of this issue since it came up in the Clinton campaign. My take is even if people choose to ignore his father's citizenship, when Lolo Soetoro adopted him he became Indonesian and ineligible.
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www.hideyourride.com/gop scroll all the way to the bottom

Funny Mike

where did you find that picture of the billboard?

photoshop