Chinese Steel Boss beaten to death
Thousands of angry Chinese steel workers clashed with police and beat to death an executive of the firm trying to take over their company, a Hong Kong-based human rights organisation has said.
Rioters killed Chen Guojun, the general manager of Jianlong Steel Holding Company, after learning that the privatised firm was to buy a majority stake in state-owned Tonghua Iron and Steel Group. The deal now appears to be scrapped.
The violence in Tonghua city, Jilin province, north-eastern China, on Friday is believed to be the country's biggest civil disturbance since last summer. It comes weeks after inter-ethnic conflict between Han Chinese and the Muslim Uighur minority in China's north-west region of Xinjiang left 197 people dead and 1,700 injured.
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maybe maybe not!
But look at what has happened here with the power of private industry and corporations controlling the congress.
The IMF goes to third world countries and offer them loans if they will open up public utility for purchase by American firms.
After buying water rights they raise the price of water so poor can't afford it. They then bribe politicians to pass laws against harvesting rain water. There is one state in the US now where you are not allowed to save rainwater. They monopolize food, water, electric and as a consequence people all over the world are starving millions every year.
I think the point
is being missed.
The guy that got kilt was from a private company. The workers at the state-owned company he just bought are not unlike USW workers in the U.S.
I'm in China and I see what happens here - the state-owned enterprises are filled with unnecessary positions and useless 'lifers'. This is part of the transition from state-ownership to privatization that is happening in China. The mob that kilt him is simply fearful for their cushy jobs and pensions.
Private industry can't function the old way and still stay viable.
The human rights that are (were!) at stake here were those of the owner who lost his life. The workers who did this are thugs and murderers - to the best of my knowledge their rights weren't being violated.
If China were
A society based on law I'd say you'd have a point. China is a totalitarian state, and what the communist party says, goes.
For me the most signifigant part of the story is that they weren't able to keep it quiet. perhaps the "great firewall of China" is developing a few holes.
"Cushy Jobs??"
You can't be serious. These men are fighting to put food on the table. There is no social safety net in China. "Private" business in China may not be run by the state but it is still an illegitimate product of Communist party tyranny.
A tyranny is a tyranny, no matter what it calls itself.
Sure am serious...
To say those workers were fighting to put food on the table is a crude oversimplification. The same could be said of the executive who lost his life.
Those workers were fighting for guaranteed employment and the perks that go with it just like any union worker.
Unfortunately, there is a social safety net in China for such workers. It's the ones in the privatized or privately owned companies who choose the higher wages at those firms to be their 'safety net'...one that doesn't come at the expense of others.
You speak as if...
China were a democracy governed by laws and elected leaders. "Private" business in China are just private tyrannys the government has allowed to exist because they serve the interests of the Communist party. The government has no interest in creating a real market economy.
Besides, if Chinese workers began to rebel it would hinder their governments ability to prop up our dollar, wouldn't it?
The Chinese are living and working as slaves
How many of you would say the same thing about a black killing a slave owner?
Get with reality. You aren't there and don't know the situation.
Open up a book and research how exploited the population of China is.
Killing this guy probably saved them their jobs and put food on the table.
Execs need to fear the people just like the government.
Jefferson would be more proud of these Chinese than all of America right now.
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yeah
i dont know what all the praise is about.
wee. somebody is dead. happy happy joy joy.
That was not my intent
in posting this article. However if this were the beginning of a mass uprising against the Communist party i'm sure we would welcome it as a positive deveolpment.
So they love communism so much, they kill private owners?
Golly. That's not very good at all. Something tells me the state had something to do with this. "It appears the deal will be scrapped", back in the safe comfortable hands of government.
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Crisis, Wars, Chaos, Uprisings are CREATED....
so the Ruling Elite can present the solution...and while the "crisis" of the day may carry some fall out for them ...it is in the end... to bring about their Solution ...and thier "solution is ALWAYS to their benefit!
We need to start thinking like chess players...not checkers!!
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lets not forget....
There is no unemployment insurance for for those who are laid off. Chinese steel workers are little better than slaves at the best of times
that's the way to go! Make no prisoners.
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"I think it would be a good idea"
Mahatma Gandhi,
when asked what he thought of Western civilization
How horribly wrong you are.
How horribly wrong you are. To condone violence in one breath and quote Gandhi in the next.
The Chinese laugh about nonviolent opposition.
It is not so that I would support that here.
In East Germany mass demonstrations and non cooperation worked.
Here in the US violence would justify their martial law plans, and I'm sure that's what they want.
Race riots or other.
I would love to see mass demonstrations and they will not dare to attack peaceful civilians in front of cell phone cameras and then YouTube.
We got the power.
But in China?
I just expressed my immediate emotions. Sure I'm sorry for this guy. But the workers made a point and this is going to be heard in all China (well, maybe not - censorship!)
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"I think it would be a good idea"
Mahatma Gandhi,
when asked what he thought of Western civilization
Certainly violence is wrong
However China is a totalitarian state, the most efficient one the 20th centiury produced. Had Ghandhi been Chinese he would have disappeared without a trace.
Did you catch the part where the killers are State employees?
one your second point. . .especially if he tried to have a private business.
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These men are fighting.......
for their lives against tyranny. There's no difference in reality between "state" and "private" enteprise, they are both part of the same corrupt system.
Mao once said....
"To Rebel is justified". At no time is it more justifed than right now. How much longer before Americans decide they have also had enough?
That is until he killed deca-millions for it...
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just a bump
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