How to deal with cops
I recieved this timely [Gates vs. Crawley] email from my black brother former Marine Sergeant this morning:
By Wesley Clark, MD
Over the years, I have avoided many traffic tickets. My kids were astounded and baffled, over the years, at how frequently I talked my way out of speeding tickets, by using basic psychology. One night, I was pulled over for 90 mph in a 60 mph zone, and got a warning, after 10 minutes of enjoyable conversation with a CHP officer. On another occasion, I was pursued for 12 miles by a CHP officer, who let his dinner get cold to catch me, and I had a delightful and respectful conversation with him, but no ticket. This is applied psychology, and genuine respect, not racialism. I have also befriended many police officers, and I have the highest respect for their professionalism and dedication, while simultaneously allowing for, understanding and respecting their exquisite humanity.
Black or white, a citizen can greatly reduce his grief in a police encounter, by understanding the psychodynamics of the confrontation, and the rules that govern authoritarian interactions. As a supplement to the advice offered by Chris Rock, I present the following suggestions.
The first principle is to get the chip off your shoulder, and respect the officer. After all, he is ultimately in charge, like it or not.
Every police officer is human. He reasonably fears for his life and well-being, and every interaction is a potential threat to him, until he decides otherwise. The astute citizen ensures that the officer feels safe and unthreatened, at his earliest opportunity, so that he can make the right decision, and carry on an equitable conversation. That citizen gets to sleep in his own bed at night, and then soberly consider the possible unfairness of life, in the light of day.
Baseline conditions:
Police officers are vested with considerable authority, by virtue of their commissioned status. They carry deadly weapons, and are empowered to make arrests when their judgment indicates that public order is threatened, or that a crime may have been committed. They are responsible for protecting the community against those who would threaten public safety and order.
Police officers are likely to respond to any challenge to their authority by acting to re-assert their status. Many police officers are military-trained -- and understand the concept of chain-of-command. They were usually in the enlisted ranks and subject to the arrogance of commissioned officers. They are therefore subconsciously responsive to any disrespect of their status, particularly when a citizen attempts to assert his rank (as if he were a commissioned officer).
Police officers know that the early application of measured force can prevent escalation of a confrontation into greater violence.
Current Scenario (note that race is not even mentioned as a boundary condition):
A private citizen arrives at his home exhausted and possibly irritable, perhaps having enjoyed a few drinks on the plane*, to ease the tedium of a long trip, only to find that he cannot open his front door. Exasperated, exhausted and irritable, he tries to force the door, and tries other entrances, attracting the attention of a neighbor conscious of recent burglaries in the neighborhood. She calls 911, and reports a possible break-in. Shortly thereafter, the already-irate citizen is confronted by a uniformed policeman, responding to a dispatch report of a burglary in progress. The officer demands that the resident identify himself and demonstrate that his presence in the residence is legal. Already irritable, and his judgment possibly impaired by a couple drinks, the resident challenges the officer's request as unreasonable.
A policeman has received a dispatcher call indicating that there is a burglary in progress at a given address. He arrives at the scene and interviews the caller, who describes two men attempting to force entry into a residence. The officer approaches the residence, and finds two men, inside the residence. He does not know whether they are burglars, possibly armed and dangerous, and a potential threat to his life, or whether they may be lawfully present. He must be concerned that a confrontation may result in a violent response, that may be dangerous to him, and to others, if the persons are present illegally. He reasonably requests that they show identification, and demonstrate that they are rightfully present. The lawfully present citizen would be expected to comply peacefully and with understanding, possibly even gratitude for the protection of his property.
What should the officer do? What should the citizen do?
The officer should be vigilant, ready to respond to any threatening behavior, yet considerate of the possible legality of the subject's presence. He should maintain an assertive demeanor, repeatedly requesting the citizen to comply in a calm tone, like a broken record.
He should deflect any allegations of unreasonableness, and re-assert his request for identifying information.
The citizen should:
Immediately comply with the reasonable request of the uniformed officer to present appropriate ID Maintain a calm and reasonable demeanor, and comply with the officer's requests, without dispute or argumentative behavior. Avoid any challenge to the officer's authority, such as a refusal to comply with requests, allegations of abuse of authority or bias. Maintain a polite and respectful demeanor throughout, even if the officer seems to be behaving inappropriately.
Be aware that any demonstrative behavior, shouting or cursing, will be recalled by witnesses and interpreted by authorities as an illicit challenge to the community.
Should the resident fail to comply with officer requests, and become obstreperous and demonstrative, the officer must now consider the consequences of strategic withdrawl, versus arrest and suppression of the illicit violent behavior. If the officer withdraws, and the citizen subsequently becomes violent (against the original reporter of the break-in, for example) the officer will be held responsible for the escalation of violence. Given his responsibility to the community at large, the officer must act to suppress aggressive and potentially violent behavior, by arresting the demonstrative and possibly violent offender.
General Principles for Law-Abiding Citizens of any Color:
When confronted by a peace officer:
Attempt to avoid any symbols of superior station: Remove your hat, exit your vehicle (your throne-room) if possible, keep your hands always in plain sight. Smile and be friendly. Avoid any belligerence. [Leprechaun note: Removing your hat iin some situations may be considered a precursor to violence, this is taught in many police academies as an early warning sign] Always be very respectful of the officer, to the point of being obsequious. Answer questions directly, and always address him as "sir": "Yessir, here is my license." You wish to avoid any challenge to the officer's authority. Under no circumstances should any aggressive language or postures be adopted.Try to make yourself small and non-threatening, even pitiful - police officers are human and will feel sorry for the weak and pitiful (but not despicable) victim. Always follow any direct orders, such as "stay in your vehicle", or "keep your hands in plain sight", or "place your hands on the vehicle"The officer is feeling threatened, and any activity contrary to his orders will only increase his apprehension of threat. Any actions contrary to his orders will likely result in your being handcuffed and arrested. Never admit to any illegal activity, but do not dispute the officer's allegation. Express astonishment and dismay, remorse and shame. Always avoid any direct acknowledgement of illegal activity: "Ohmigod, sir! I must have been distracted." "I was thinking of my wife yelling at me, and I must have unconsciously pushed the accelerator", "I didn't realize how it might have appeared." Always accompanied by convincing actions and submissive postures, indicating shame and remorse. Never argue with the officer's assertion. If he says you were speeding, admit that he may be correct, and attempt to explain your lapse in judgment and behavior as inadvertent. Even if he says you were flying too fast and flapping your wings too hard, apologize for your lack of consideration, and promise to fly slower in the future! Any disputation of his authority will draw an immediate proof of his power and authority, called a "ticket", or an "arrest". Attempt to engage and divert the officer in friendly conversation about his job, his attitudes toward crime, some current law-enforcement event (e.g., the response to that incident in Cambridge). No matter how far out his views, always agree with them and empathize with them. Your objective is to bond with him, to confront him with the problem of having to issue a ticket to, or to arrest, a citizen compatriot, a brother.
Never try to show the officer who's boss. He knows that he is the boss, and he will prove it to you, at the point of a gun, flat on your face with your hands cuffed behind your back, if necessary.
The smart citizen programs these responses in his mind, in advance. He is respectful and friendly to police officers, and they return his attitude in kind., professionally and humanly. The dummies wind up in jail.
Take your pick.
*Having a couple drinks on a long flight is entirely reasonable, and deserving of our empathy and understanding. However, mild intoxication may influence judgment and memory, and may adversely alter one's response to confrontation, even eliciting responses that would be rejected in a sober state.
The author is a surgeon, and not related to the retired general of the same name




















I'd rather see a post
of how to NOT deal with cops.
Colchester, New London County, Connecticut
good answer
As I was waiting for this to load, the answer in my mind is RESPECT. That stops most problems from getting started. So once your post loaded I really liked it, though I tend to speed read long posts. I tend not to speed driving.
Thankfully, my encounters with local law enforcement have been friendly. If you are lucky enough to live in a "Mayberry", make friends with them, show up at local meetings and make yourself useful. Avoid talking about conspiracies because that will make you scary. These guys aren't exactly getting rich for keeping you safe. I find it hard to believe that they are looking for drama.
Cops are just looking for a bullet [job]
[Quote: FreedomPundit] These guys aren't exactly getting rich for keeping you safe. I find it hard to believe that they are looking for drama. [Un-quote]
Only young men and women would consider being a police officer, I did, but because my GED was not valid when I was thinking applying I passed it up. Illinois requires you take your GED test after you are 21, avoiding an increase in H.S. dropouts. I was 19 y/o in the Marines when I took the test.
Getting back to police mentality: We all knows what happens when you give a rookie a radar gun, but what happens when you give a radar gun to an older more seasoned cop he knows you can get shot stopping the wrong people and won't be setting a new police department record for giving tickets.
Naw, I'm glad I didn't become a cop looking for a bullet or being accused of stuff that I may or may not have done. You know that cops (smart ones) carry insurance to protect them from the public (law suits). A cop in town tried ticketing a hot shot mafia type bar-pizzeria's son who kept tearing up the tickets (illegal parking) in the cops face and was finally chased into his business/home where he barred the door. The cop was sued, but eventually prevailed.
My cousin was a cop in the same town, and one night he caught three guys that were going to torch a business and was able to arrest two, the other ran away. One that he arrested was the brother of a sergeant on the force, the other was a felon that just did his time for shooting a cop. The next day the Chief suspended my cousin for endangering his fellow police officers life's and his after they found a holstered loaded pistol that he allegedly missed while frisking the arsonist. The pistol was allegedly tucked [plant]. into the squads backseat by the guys he arrested. After a long protracted police hearing board to fire him and expensive lawyers my cousin was exonerated and back to duty. The pistol was shown to have no chain of custody and the holster was lost. The detectives also found a loaded Luger pistol in a mud puddle where he made the arrest, and it is theorized the only reason he was not shot was because there was a large wedding party returning to the church across the street late and would of witnessed him being shot. My cousin busted an inside job going down, and soon afterward quit got fired (AAA). I think my cousin knew this was going down and for whatever reason intervened (police department politics), he was not in his assigned patrol area and claimed why he was there that he was going to use a mens room when he stumbled on the arson attempt. My cousin told me that businesses had to install cameras to protect themselves not from criminals, but the police..
This really happened
I have some real characters in my family. My sister's husband was a real goof, once he spotted my cousin a cop that was directing cars in a busy intersection when a stop light was out. Slowly my brother-in-law aimed his car at my cousin and went right up to him pushing him with his bumper until my cop cousin started to draw his gun. My brother-in-law thought this was the finniest thing that ever happened. Incidentally, when my brother-in-law joined the army (17) in advanced infantry training he got a court-martial and a year at Leavenworth. They liked him so much at Leavenworth they kept him an extra year (2). At his funeral, our insurance agent told my sister, "I'm sorry, I didn't know Bruce was your husband." My older brother said, "She is sorry too [it's her husband]."
Don't do this
During the mid-80s a friend of mine used to move cars for clients from one state to another (this was before auto transport brokers became a more popular option for private parties) and from time to time I would accompany him for a few bucks (and some high-end exotic car seat time). One day we were driving a Porsche 911 Turbo from Palm Springs, Arizona to San Antonio, Texas and, as might be expected, on long stretches of IH 10 my buddy would crack the whip on Le Mans-bred beast. Lets just say 150+ mph is a given. Our luck finally ran outjust outside of Fort Stockton, TX in the form of a mirror shade/Stetson hat wearing Texas Highway Patrolman and accompanying county sheriff deputy. He waited a few minutes before shutting off the engine in order to spin down the turbo to avoid baking oil on the turbo bearings. This is usually a good move but all this took place in the desert dry heat of mid-summer so the air cooled engine must have heat-soaked the starter.
Once the who are you-where are you going-let me see the vehicle paperwork-here's your ticket process was over the car wouldn't restart. rhurrr, rhurrr, rhurrr....
The officers offered to push start the car. Keep in mind this was before traction control or other such driving aids and the clutch was mega-stiff to handle the horsepower. Well, the first attempt failed. So did the second. The patrolman was on the verge of calling a tow truck but we pleaded for them to give it one more shot, as the car was clearing its throat of excess fuel on the second attempt. One more please??
Both officers pushed on the whale tail for all they were worth...Chris popped the clutch and modulated the throttle as the car bucked and coughed...with the gas mashed flat on the floor it lit...like a rocket showering the two peace officers with gravel and dirt
var-var-VROOOM!!!
As the dust cleared in the rearview you could just make out one guy getting up off the shoulder and another picking up his hat. We prayed and prayed for miles...and laughed like hell later. :)
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
Why bring up race?
"I received this timely [Gates vs. Crawley] email from my black brother former Marine Sergeant this morning."
Who cares if he's Black? It shouldn't matter, should it?
There is a later reference to "black or white" as though there were no Asian police officers, or women officers. Race, sex and religious should be left out of the piece; it has no bearing on talking with an officer.
The rest of the piece was about right, however. It's not about being confrontational or even right. It's about getting home safely. That said, Clark should have fessed up, esp if he was doing 90 in a 60 zone. Sweet talk got him off the hook, so he skated away with the truth.
Your right about my former Marine Sergeant brother
We are Green through and though, once Marines always Green.
What's funny, when I was filling out my Japanese wife's immigration paper work to come to America, it asked her color. I put down "Yellow", talking about one mad Jap, she told me she wasn't yellow, and that she was more white than me !
My toy poodle dog is so white, my Mexican neighbor exclaimed, "he is so white !" I told him, what does his color have to do with it ? (wink)
Get a life...
Semper Fi
Everybody is colored something. The Irish author Brendan Behan said he was a "cholesterol red." Red Foxx did a routine about the various shades of Black people and it was funny because he exclaimed, to a predominantly white audience, "It's you who all look alike."
The great Bear Bryant, football coach of Alabama was among the first to recruit black players for his team. A reporter asked him, "How many black players do you have?" Bryant: "I don't have any black players." Reporter: "Well then how many white players do you have?" Bryant: "I don't have any white players either. I just have players."
I stand with Bear.
The day a police officer shows up
in any attempt whatsoever to protect my property, I swear, I'll kiss his ass. I'll show him every ID and document I own and offer him a drink. I'll thank him for actually doing the ONE USEFUL THING cops are supposed to do: Stop people from stealing and/or breaking my stuff.
So far the Police have utterly failed me. I guess most of them are too busy being corrupt gangsters and thugs.
Centralized city police do a bad job. I'd rather have private police who answer directly to me and my neighbours. Police I can call on their cell phones.
You live in Canada...
...And for the most part, they could do a better job.
But this idea that they're all gangsters is far fetched. You just need to keep them in line. Know the law, know that as citizens, the police will be the first ones you want on your side if and when it hits the fan.
Your home is not the same as a traffic stop
Yes, being an obsequious suck-up is a good way to get out of a traffic ticket and I know from experience that it does work.
Respectfully, this is a different thing. In a traffic stop the cop has witnessed the driver breaking the law and in most cases the driver is perfectly aware that he has done so. In this case, the cop has witnessed nothing and has no idea whether any crime has even occurred.
Doesn't this obligate the officer to be a little more measured in his response?
It is much harder to be an obsequious suck-up when you are in your own home with no reason to think you have done anything wrong and are then suddenly confronted by an aggressive uniformed thug demanding your papers. To be compelled to be an obsequious suck-up just to avoid being arrested in this situation is truly odious
It was revealed today that the time from the first 911 call until the man was arrested( with six police cars for back-up) was 6 minutes. SIX ! Let's face it- by the the time this cop finished his donut, brushed the sugar off his uniform, and found the "crime scene" there was no time left for any attempt to even understand the situation much less diffuse it. The cop marched in and dragged the man out in hand-cuffs, the same as if the man had just gunned somebody down in the street, simply for the "crime" of being rude.
Since when has being rude been a crime?
Anybody who works in a job requiring interaction with the public from waiters or flight attendants to teachers or doctors knows that people can be rude and nasty or even dangerous. Yet somehow they do their jobs everyday without the benefit of firearms, tasers, clubs or back-up at the push of a button. If they are unable to diffuse a tense situation, avoid a confrontation and not make it personal they are not doing their job and should find another line of work.
Same for this cop, and any other cop who thinks it is acceptable, or god forbid, necessary to terrorize innocent citizens whose attitude they don't like.
Yeah fuck the police
I agree.
One time I was minding my own business on the computer when the door bell suddenly rang.
To my surprise, 5 or so officers were standing outside.
First question -
"Wheres the laptop Jeremy?
(my name is James so this was weird)
"My name isn't Jeremy I don't know what you are talking about"
This conversation repeated for about 15 minutes, they finally asked for ID so I grabbed my school ID and passport. Still not enough, the cops lingered around for another 30 minutes. I was seriously like wtf. I later found out that Jeremy Abdul lives in apartment 4D, while I was in 4B.
Retarded assholes.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. "
-Thomas Jefferson
I have snaked my way out of a few
tickets, but have found acting confused helps a lot, not so confused that you appear to be drunk, but in a confused I need your help explaining to me what I did wrong...i.e., the boss was yelling at me on my cell phone...had no clue I was going between 45 to 65 for 8 miles with you behind me. Or Mr. Border Patrol Agent - I have never been through a check point in my life and being asked the question one word question "citizenship"? confuses the hell out of me because no one has ever asked me that before being from Illinois. I was getting a gun drawn on me b/c I was speechless/didn't comprehend the question and I was reaching for my wallet to show my ID. I admit most likely the Border Patrol had no beef with me other than my cruise through the Check point, but it did end happily with some competing college football taunting and an almost appreciative rap on my roof with a have a good night .
I have to admit my best was narrowly escaping a DUI...would have been arrested by any number of any other cops. But I was in a large metro area and my comedic relief probably got me out of that one because I was clearly no threat to the police office from the start (Always a huge plus in a large downtown metro area).
I did get accused of bribing a police office once b/c I was trying to be funny. But it was clear I was the guys only catch of the night and he had a hard on to give me a ticket. When he approached the car I had my license, registration, and proof of insurance all stuck in the the window and I was holding one of my Mom's freshly bake pies in my hands. So the first words spoken between us was me asking him, "If I could interest him in a piece of moma phathead's fresh home cooked pies." To which he asked if I was attempting to bribe an office of the law...I thought he was being a smart ass and said no I just thought you may enjoy some of this delicious pie. My humor didn't work on him...i got a ticket and he was completely uninterested in the pie (can't believe that!) and had zero sense of humor.
Your arguements are not good enough for me, you fail to
discuss the purpose of the police & the prison industrial complex (PIC). The police exist to give you traffic tickets & put you in jail, period, end of story. No cop has tried to have a conversation w/ me about the way I feel, when I start telling them the way I see it, they walk away, b/c they have nothing better to say. If you prevail in court over a traffic ticket, you are not without a loss. You still spent your time in court, the most you can do when you encounter a cop is break even, not lose anything. If their job security as government employees were removed, they would emphasize more with the way the common person is. The don't exist to help anyone & any help they give is incidental. How does it help a family to put a father in jail & let them go without income? How does it help you when the person who repairs your car for dirt cheap has to go to jail & you have to find another mechanic at full price? How does it help society when a person goes to jail & the victim is left w/out restitution? It doesn't help the victim, it is just used as an excuse to put somebody in jail. It doesn't help society to be w/out capable, able-bodied adults to contribute in whatever way they can. Nobody deserves to spend 10 years of their life paying for what took them less than 2 hours to pull off. You get the picture. And these women who whine about having been violated, who for some reason don't mind being voluntarily intimate but when its forced upon them its a different story, nobody deserves to suffer for having done that to them for more than 5 years. There are worse things that can happen, much worse.
For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E.
Cops don't exist to be
Cops don't exist to be judges to your personal situation. You DONT want cops being judges on the streets. Best thing to do is to treat cops just like you would any other stranger on the street for the first time .. polite and courteous until they prove that they are deserving otherwise, and even then there are ways to make a jabbing point without getting all pissy with someone. Most of the time I've ran into cops its pretty pleasant, we joke and BS a little, and even the last time I got pulled over ... Arizona DOT out in the middle of no where .. seems theres a local law that trumps FMCSA regulations and they dont like mudflaps on trucks that "sail". Now, half the darn trucks across the country have these flimsy mudflaps that flop around, they meet Federal regulations, but Arizona has added a little twist of their own and most arent compliant. Truth be told it gives the Arizona DOT more of a reason to pull a commercial vehicle over even though they dont need a reason to begin with. I got pulled over for that a few weeks ago. Not a big deal. Its not a ticket *I* have to pay. My company would, and it wasnt a fine anyway. Arizona's a bit weird. See 4409 et al. They also tried to cite drivers for having laptops in their trucks stating some FMCSA rule regarding Televisions in viewable range of the driver. FMSCA slapped the hands of Arizona DOT about this saying they grossly misinterpreted the law. Lots of drivers use laptops for GPS. Not the same as watching TV. Anyway point is .. even though I got pulled over on something completely BS, the cop was nice and polite and we talked a while about stuff. HE even told me about a Tea Party he went to in Utah. I just treat them like any other working class stiff just like I am. Some poor schmuck trying to make a buck. Plus I feel sorry for em .. most cops make less money than I do.
Pick your battles
No police officer has ever taken or filed the mandated Oath of Office to uphold the Constitution nor do they have their required commercial crime bond. They have therefore vacated that office and are operating strictly in their private capacity. When they run your license and registration it goes through both the DMV and INTERPOL whose Constitution forbids it's officers and agents from obeying the laws of any member nation of the UN. If they issue a ticket they acting under color of law as non-appointed tax collecters and are solicting contributions for a foreign principle and political subdivision as the citation is an illegal executive equity excise tax assessment.
In short: they are NOT the police. Be polite. They have the guns, you do not.
I agree...
fight the statute, not the cop. Debate is not the officers job, that is best saved for court.
Assert Your Authority
Assert Your Authority
There is a lot of truth
There is a lot of truth here. Why do some people alienate the police when they are doing their job, which is really to protect us? The vast majority of police officers are decent people, and deserve our respect. If you become abusive, you can expect problems.
Treat police officers the way that you want to be treated. How you act determines how you will be treated. This does not apply only to interactions with law enforcement, it is the basis of human relations.
Agreed
Most police officers and military veterans are good people in the end, and they have a tough job.
Treat them how you would want to be treated and expect the same.
As for those that are corrupt, of which there are quite a few, that's what you have a tazer gun for or something to "nullify" their jurisdiction....
The founders weren't kidding when they said keep the right to bear arms. It was all there all along, to be used just for this....just for these purposes
Quote,
"One night, I was pulled over for 90 mph in a 60 mph zone, and got a warning, after 10 minutes of enjoyable conversation with a CHP officer."
Sorry, but speed limits are set for a reason and I believe he should have gotten that ticket. You are allowed freedom provided you do not infringe upon or cause dangers to others. J*ck *ss....
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
I agree
Sweet talk does not change the law. And police officers tend to allow people to go a little over the limit. But 30 miles over the limit is a clear violation and, you are right Lynn, the guy should have got a ticket.
Bet he couldn't sweet-talk his way out of felony arrest.
Speaking of J*ck *sses - You are ALLOWED freedom????
What kind of Libertarian are you?? Not sure about you, but MY rights and freedoms are endowed by my creator and NOT a mere privilege to be regulated by some guy with a gun and a badge. I will travel as fast as I damn well please and no fictitious entity (i.e. the state) can force me to do otherwise. I take responsibility for my own actions and until I harm someone because of them, I'm going to continue to travel at a pace of my own discretion.
Thank you for your kind words.
If you have "rights and freedoms" does your reckless endangerment demonstrate that everyone else on the road has waived theirs? All rights, liberties and freedoms come with a supplemental and inseparable responsibility and obligation to others as well. It's called the Golden Rule and should be recognized and followed on all public easements while exercising your right to travel in your private means of conveyance. The vehicle code may not operate on you but hopefully common sense will.
You said that much better then I did.
If you wont fight for the right when you can easily win...you may...have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival [or] when there is no chance of victory...it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
W.Churchill
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
ok...to avoid
ok...to avoid confrontation...yes, this is the best way to handle the situation....
but then reality steps in....
you are at your own house when your nosy , and apparently unfriendly, neighbor(why does she not know who you are and why doesn't she recognize her own neighbor) calls the police and says possible break in in progress...unbeknowst to you, you now have some stranger in YOUR house telling you that you MUST obey him and give him your name...
and prove that you have the right to be there...
does something not sound right about this????
this is like a tale on how to obey the powers that be and don't piss them off or they have a right to shoot you
and don't cuss at them....cuz by george they have the authority granted them by "commissioned" what ever....
this whole little thing just kinda pisses me off
"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32
I was taught stay in your
I was taught stay in your vehicle, ask for ID, and call to check if you're not sure. Some young women have been murdered by scum posing as police. I never heard advice to get out of your car before you're asked.
Right
1) Stay in your vehicle unless told to get out. Getting out before being told is seen as aggressive. Been there done that, believe me stay in the car.
2) Put your ego aside and say,"yes sir". It sends the officer a message that you're not going to give trouble. As was said they're taught to be aggressive and get control of the situation quickly.
3) Don't make a quick move. The officer may quickly draw his weapon. Been there done that. Remember he doesn't know you.
4) Be especially careful with female officers. Statistics show they use their weapon much more quickly than a male.
5) Most cops are decent people, but there are those who are cowboys. They're looking for a reason to get physical, don't give them one. Remember whatever they do, they'll probably get away with it.
Valuable advice
It seems to me this stuff is common sense but apparently too many people allow their egos to put them in jail, or at least cost them a citation.
I'll add if you must have a beer on the way home, put it in a BigGulp cup and use the straw.
:p
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
MY Fav
This seems to work for me... You don't know who the F you are dealing with... LOL
IT never seems to amaze me just how many idiots leave their radios loud and generally act disrespectful to those in power.
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.
What not to say to a cop
"Okay son do you know why I'm giving you this ticket ?" answer " Cause you got all C's in highschool ?"
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