Inside the Healthcare Bill -- -- Holy !@#$!!
I just received this email and have no verification of the below statements.
If even Half of them are correct.... this transcends WAY beyond healthcare.
We're talking
National ID card (page 58)
immediate access to every American citizen's bank accounts via electronic funds transfers (page 59)
property owned by the doctors in the United States to be determined by the government (page 317)
American citizens ordered to give the United States government power over their living wills (page 425)
The United States government given a new power to determine who and how their citizens die (page 427)
End of life plan for each American citizen ordered by the government (page 429)
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Inside the Healthcare Bill
here's the XML
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17352956/House-Health-Reform-Bill
here's the PDF
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/hrdraft.pdf
Page 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.
Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Page 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits 4 you. you have no choice!
Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Page 58HC Bill - Government will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your banks accounts for electronic funds transfer
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Government control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Government will ration your Healthcare!
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Government mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example - Translation for illegal aliens
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Government will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Government HC plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of benefit levels for Plans. #AARP members - your Health care WILL be rationed
PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue the government on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Government Monopoly.
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Government will tell YOU what you can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Business with payroll between 251k & 400k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Administration (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances and personal records.
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same
PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of a Doctor's time, professional judgment, etc. Literally value of humans.
PG 265 Sec 1131Government mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries
PG 268 Sec 1141 Federal Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Government will penalize hospitals for what Government deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission the Government will penalize you.
Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells Doctors what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Government is mandating hospitals cannot expand
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Government mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in to Government plan
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committe. Can you say HC by phone?
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultation. Think Senior Citizens end of life
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Governmentt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Governmentt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "advance care planning consult" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates
PG 429 Lines 10-12 "advance care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from government.
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN?
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Government will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Government into your marriage
Pg 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services





















The thing is
Private health insurers do all this too - except for checking on people not taking their insurance. If you had some choice of insurers, that would be fine, because you could pick insurers based on their services. But since we have this company store system of healthcare, we don't have a great deal of choice.
What we need is for the federal government to insist that states deregulate the market, thus providing more choices, and that states don't interfere with interstate commerce and allow Insurance to be sold across state lines.
CALL EVERYDAY...AS MUCH AS YOU CAN
Call..email...send post cards (so the mailman and whoever elses hands they pass through can read them)...They need to be told..over and over not to pass this bill...Even the ones that say they will vote against it..they too need to be called and reminded...No way will you support them if they support that bill..or even any attempts to re-write it...They need to know with us..its a dead issue...Also..you might want to tell them..you will NOT be forced to take that flu shot...And you will NOT be forced to go against the CONSTITUTION...
Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.
I believe in Hope & Change..I Hope the government will Change
Spindale-Rutherford County-North Carolina
Double Bump!
Boy am I PO'ed by this stupid bill - we really need to prevent this from passing. It is also a HUGE power grab by the executive branch, and we certainly don't want to be giving that certain somebody more power!
betty
I don't see how
I just don't see how people will put up with this if it goes through.
I think if this goes through there is no doubt there will be a full revolution.
This stuff sounds..
very bad for doctors. If this is all true, and if this stuff ends up in the final bill...then I expect than 50% of America's doctors will close up shop or find another country to practice medicine in. Now that will cause a health care crisis.
Bend Over "Change" has come to Amerika
whos money is it?
It's all theirs. How many of you work for a company that has gone to "paperless pay"? They will fund this thing and they will have direct access to your account. Paperless pay forces you to have an account of some type. I mentioned this awhile back because my sons company started this no paper policy but many argued it was a good idea. I suppose they have never had the experience of having their bank account plundered
Big bump
http://blog.flecksoflife.com/2009/07/30/politifacts-checks-a...
“Government health care...
“Government health care will be like the DMV with wounds.”
~ Dennis Miller
I am listening to talk
I am listening to talk radio. A democrat doctor was invited to answer questions and defend Obamacare. When asked to address the end of life mandatory counseling sessions for the elderly, and the different ways to kill yourself that are included in the bill, his response was that when the final bill is passed, not all items listed, such as this end of life issue, may or will be included. There was no denying that it is in there, or even misinterpreted. When asked if he agreed with it. He said no, but that there needed to be more education on end of life issues.
If anyone wants a link to the show, I can supply it after the podcast posts.
Meet Ezekiel Emmanuel~ Architect of Obamacare
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Ezekiel Emmanuel MD, Rahm Emmanuel’s brother, who is Barack Obama’s “Special Advisor for Health Policy”, is described by the [1] Huffington Post article as engaged in a very important mission: redesigning the US health care system.
Ezekiel J. Emanuel is Head of the Department of Bioethics at The Clinical Center of the National Institutes of Health and a breast oncologist. He is on extended detail as a special advisor for health policy to the director of the White House Office of Management and Budget
*** Please see the video and read the articles linked in this OP !!!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/101264
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Oh Cool.
This bill also sets up a National Prevention and Wellness Task Force.
What do they get to do... run around and take donuts from fat people?
~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
Don't laugh
the way things are looking, this is probably exactly what they will do.
"Government spending cannot create additional jobs. If the government provides the funds required by taxing the citizens or by borrowing from the public, it abolishes on the one hand as many jobs as it creates on the other.", www.mises.org
"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com
ROFL
"Hey! I wan't done with that jelly donut! Come back!"
Think for yourself, question authority
The fact that the reps,
The fact that the reps, senators and Obama refuse to give up their current health care coverage and sign onto what they are proposing for us peons SAY IT ALL.
If it's not good enough for them it should NOT be good enough for the rest of us.
Dis
Dis
Goldenequity, Fleckenstein was doing this analysis
off a copy of a different bill than the one you linked above. He was going by this one: http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHC...
How do I know this? Because that is the one that he links to in his article here.
Calling, faxing, emailing,
Calling, faxing, emailing, attending townhall meetings, signing petitions...all great. But what would be even greater is for all those doing all of the above is to show up in front of the Capitol and demand that Congress stop doing their own thing and start listening to their bosses.
Can you imagine the statement 100's of thousands of people all standing side by side would make?
We did last year, don't you
We did last year, don't you remember?
Tom Porter:
On July 12th, 2008 the R3VOLUTION came together in our Nations Capitol. We lobbied Congress, we picketed the Federal Reserve, we marched and we rallied. It was a weekend for all of us to be proud of, as we displayed our passionate call for a return to the rule of law in which all other laws are subservient to our Constitution. As our moral and philosophical leader has stated over and over, "the message of freedom is popular"... read more
http://www.revolutionmarch.com/
Do not give into evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.
Do not give into evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.
Yes, I remember, but I was
Yes, I remember, but I was talking about 100's of thousands of people. I don't think there were that many last year or that it got much coverage.
I'm not talking about a march, what I envision is enough people to blanket all the streets...no room to march. Just a sea of people standing shoulder to shoulder..
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I wonder if this is what was
I wonder if this is what was happening in Germany in the 1930's? Everything was happening so gradually, until something occurred that woke the people up, but by that time it was too late. They had lost their country.
I just looked at pages 58 + 59
Don't see anything at all about a national ID card, or the government being able to get into your bank records.
A couple of weeks ago, my
A couple of weeks ago, my family doctor's office asked me to bring a photo ID. She said they were getting ready to set up the government's new computer system. I told her I didn't agree with that and she said ok, but I could tell she wasn't happy about it.
Page 58...
enable the real-time (or near real- time) determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service and, to the extent possible, prior to service, including whether the individual is eligible for a specific service with a specific physician at a specific facility, which may include utilization of a machine-readable health plan beneficiary identification card;
~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
Ah, I see that this in the XML scribd version
I was looking at the pdf. I guess Goldeneyeq, wasn't aware that he the two versions he posted are different.
It messed me up too...
but it is corrected a bit higher in this thread.
It's an interesting read so far, in an Orwellian sort of way...
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~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
Here is the one I posted on Facebook including the link
of the guy who analysed the bill page by page which has been circulating the internet. There is a correction to that email for which I wil post the link after this one.
Peter Fleckenstein, a former Marine from Phoenix, Arizona, is going through the ObamaCare bill page by page and highlighting the provisions he finds there.
Clearly, Fleckenstein has struck a nerve. His list, originally published as a series of Twitter posts, has gone viral via email. Within days, the liberal fascists published his personal information on Twitter as a means to silence him. Fleckenstein promises legal action
Information has been taken from different sources for formatting purposes but verified back to Fleckenstein’s original work. Fleckenstein’s blog is here: http://blog.flecksoflife.com/
• Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
• Page 29:
errr.... how come this post shows justabout nothing of what I
posted? I know it was a long post but the link in the above little bit refers only to the comments he has made on the email which circulated.
It covered every page of that bill, not just the first 400 or so.
http://blog.flecksoflife.com/
Ah well... anyone wanting to see the complete analysis, please let me know.
Thx for that link
It appears that this is where Goldenequity pulled this from.
at what point do Americans
at what point do Americans become unsissified and tell the government to shove off?
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Welll, most Americans actually want socialized
medicine. Here's a very powerful refrain that I often hear: "We are the only industrialized, 1st world country, that doesn't have a national health-care program".