***This is not the prevailing view on H1N1, but PLEASE read and consider.***

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If the virus is manufactured, then they can develop it in whatever way they like.

The NWO believes the young and our movement are their biggest threat

The H1N1 virus (out of the MSM's mouth) attacks the healthy and young most aggressively.

It appears the H1N1 virus is manufactured not natural.

They know many of the most die hard people in our movement will not take vaccines.

Using the MSM, They are preparing the people for the virus to mutate and become much more dangerous.

Mandatory Vaccination has been announced, and obviously they know there is strong opposition in our movement.

So with all these things in mind is it a possibility or even likely that the virus will 'mutate' and that the vaccine is a real working vaccine (perhaps still with some serious eugenic effects.)

If so, those who don't take it will contract the virus and if it is 'mutated' our movement could be seriously weakened in two ways.

1. Many people in the movement die.

2. The media says, see the Ron Paul followers are crazy lots of them didn't trust the government, didn't take the vaccine, and now they are dead. People trust government more.

Crazy Idea perhaps, but if I was an evil elite this is my choice of action.

Let's not get too in a rut that we can't consider all angles.

My preferred mode of action would be to get out of town (literally). Not take the shot, not contract the virus and come back when things blow over. Whether or not this will be possible or easy I don't know. I don't intend to take on the US Military. But slipping away before things get crazy, perhaps.

I want to know what you think.

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I am not worried about mandatory vaccination

At least not for me personally. The amount of vaccine available is not enough for mandatory. Create enough fear and you don't need to make it mandatory. Like in this drill
Maine TV Station Airs Report on National Guard and Flu Pandemic Riots
http://www.infowars.com/maine-tv-station-airs-report-on-nati...

Maybe it's not about the Flu at all. We know they have carried out sterilization with vaccinations in the past. We are told population is a huge problem that must be addressed. With out killing billions of people, if you could sterilize the majority of young people around the world you would stop population growth and could reduce future population.

Who is being targeted for this flu? Young healthy people and children. They are even targeting most of the testing of the vaccine on children.
12,000 Kids to be first Guinea Pigs for Flu vaccine
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/100609

Would anyone even know what happened till years from now? Just something that has gone through my mind.
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One of the things that most bothers me about

a lot of conspiracy scenarios is that they seem to imagine the deep dark powerful elite as super-competent, wickedly genius, all powerful, all knowing; kind of demigodlike. they can figure out a world-wide mega chess-like strategy and know centuries of jumps ahead how their plays will turn out.
I can't buy that. There are too many beyond-stupid choices made, on a daily basis by the powerful. Possibly there are cabals of evil-minded jerks; I have no answers to the many theories around 9-11 and other events that look conspiratorial, I totally admit that.
But biology is so infinitely complex, I think humans no matter how powerful just are barely scratching the surface of understanding how disease and health work. The notion that evil scientists can actually predict, target, and contain viruses is way beyond the current state of medical knowledge, IMHO.

I think anything is possible.

that is why it is so important to listen to everything, eventually the truth may be revealed so you can make the best decision you can. good luck

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It turns out they were wrong about H1N1

And it probably is not a cytokine storm that really does the damage, but rather a secondary infection of bacteria made worse by the H1N1 infection. Apparently when they looked at it, most people took a while to die, and the rapid cytokine storm was only a relatively rare reaction.

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/522355 (see the PDF linked on the page file for more details )

it say -

In many places, modern antivirals and strain-specific vaccines may be inaccessible and/or too costly—and other preventive methods (e.g., social distancing) may be ineffective—in response to an influenza
pandemic. In such settings, currently available and relatively inexpensive bacterial vaccines and antibiotics may be accessible, affordable, and lifesaving— before, during, and after future influenza pandemics

It's The Vaccines!

that create a cytokine storm. Read between the lines, most of the deaths thus far are people that have had underlying health problems. They are spinning the cytokine story and just using the fact that the actual virus is EFFECTING people of all ages, not killing.
SAY NO TO VACCINES!

Yes I understand that.

But why are they pushing the idea that it will probably mutate and get much worse. Is it so everyone takes the vaccines or so they can cover their butt when they release a more deadly virus?

Maybe

the mutated live viruses are in the vaccines, and they can say that because of virus mutation, the people weren't protected by "their vaccinations".

Just think about it.
What would be more effective at spreading a virus?
Letting it run a limited natural pattern thru chance contact?
Or, injecting it into every person in the world by force?

Or...

The Ron Paul crazies can just investigate it a little further.

If the virus does indeed trigger a cytokine storm (which would be how it would target the young and healthy) there is a really simple way to counteract it.

Nicotene in the bloodstream will stop hypercytokinemia (the cytokine storm we're worried about) even after the onset of said reaction.

So instead of lining up for your manditory injection, go get some nicotene patches. Or gum.

Problem solved... :)

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What about suing Snuus

My son just starting using Snuus instead of smoking. Apparently "everyone"
in Norway uses this according to my son. I was unhappy to hear that he was hooked on nicotine but maybe this product would be a good pathway for nicotine to be introduced into the body?

I've no idea.

I think that being hooked on nicotene is a bad thing reguardless of the vehicle used.

However, tobacco has been used for centuries as a medicine. The difference is you're not supposed to be smoking it or dipping... it is used as a poltice or tincture.

I'm also not advocating it as the ~cure~ for whatever bug is currently going around, but I thought that what I've read so far was interesting enough to bring up in discussion.

I'd rather be on a nicotene patch for a few weeks and then do my withdrawls than be given a ~manditory~ vaccination, if this does actually work.

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Interesting.

can you expound on that some? maybe some links for me to check out? Appreciate it.

There is a lot out there.

Here is the first one I pulled up...

http://diseases-viruses.suite101.com/article.cfm/nicotine_an...

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Thanks

Makes you wonder. . .

They definitly are trying extra hard to discourage smoking. hmmm.

On some radio show...

I was listening to it a month or so ago and some caller came up with the theory that they are coming down so hard on cigarettes because smokers wouldn't be as effected by H1V1. My automatic thought (as an x-smoker) was that the caller smoked more than cigarettes every day. Like crack maybe. A few weeks later I ran across an article on some studies that sort of prove him right. On the nicotene portion of it, anyways.

Further studies showed that ricin (a bioweapon that kills by cytokine storm) is neutralized by nicotene.

I learn new stuff every day....

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We will actually know more from tests being done in europe

they will get the vaccines first , All medical staff will evidently be the first to get it . ( I wonder ) then we'll see what the effects are . either way I'll be hiding out .

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you gotta think like them to win...

I have given serious thought to that as well....

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