Ammunition "Shortages" and Walmart
I'm frankly suspicious of Walmart's role in keeping ammunition off the shelves.
The likely next step from the scheming scum in Washington is to control guns, not through 'honest' firearm legislation, but by backdoor controls of ammunition. The Walmart in my town has, apparently, not had any ammunition restocked on its shelves since Obama's Inauguration. Nothing is left on the shelf except a handful of oddball calibers.
If there is an ammunition shortage now, what is the cause?
I do not believe it's the result of 'panic buying' from the gun show crowd. People are just as worried about the recession as they are about gun control, and the gun ghow feeding frenzy has already subsided. I was at a local Gun Show a few days ago, trying to sell a rifle, and handguns were back down to their pre-Obama prices---and still weren't selling. Gun dealers were sitting, bored, with long faces and they were complaining.
Yet Walmart stores keeping phasing out firearm sales, and maintain empty ammunition shelves. In my opinion, Walmart is too cheek and jowl with the federal government for this to be a coincidence.
Does anyone else have similar suspicions?
I have a ton of once fired brass
... from when I used to shoot. I wonder how much brass is going for on ebay these days, maybe they won't let me sell it there ? I should get a table at a gun show and unload (pun-intended).
my walmart shelves are
my walmart shelves are almost fully stocked again and prices never changed this whole time. (I'm in TX). The Gander Mt. close to here has fully stocked shelves but their prices are 2-3 times more than wal-mart's (not exaggerating at all)
Also, one of the employees at walmart offered to sell me some boxes of ammo for $5 over the walmart price... He took them as soon as they got them and is reselling them...
you may have an
anti-gun manager of the sporting goods dept or the warehouses are totally running short because everyone else bought them up, so even if wal mart orders them, they won't be shipped to wal mart. supply and demand. if i were you, i'd learn how to reload your shells. it's not hard.
In Wisconsin, ammo is back
In Wisconsin, ammo is back to pre Obummer days. actually, we only had about4 months of tight ammo supplys. prices nnever really wnet up as a result of the high demand. For a couple of months, there was about a 10% surcharge, but now eveything is back to normal. Screw Walmart. Why on gods earth would anybody shop at _Hell_Mart_?
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I can tell you don't shoot or train much... back to normal?? lmao....
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WalMart is not the problem.
It is a matter of supply and demand. You can tell this if you look at the prices at WalMart and the prices at local gun shops. WalMart is lower, so their supply goes faster. I can find ammo at the local gun shops at prices that are high enough to keep if from selling quickly ($35 to $40 for a box of 50 American Eagle .357, JHP for example). I can not often find ammo at WalMart because the prices are better and that is where people get it if they can. I went to Bass Pro in Springfield, Mo day before yesterday, and they had plenty on the shelves, but at prices that discouraged buying. I saw five people looking, but only one walked away with a box; I did not buy.
Every time I check the ammo counter at WalMart there are at least several other people there looking also, often old dudes like myself. We always talk and the consensus seems to be that civil unrest is coming and everyone wants to be prepared. Some speak the word, revolution. I doubt that those in Washington can guess the level of anger and hatred in the hinterland. All it will take is the right spark, so just give it a little more time. Things will unfold as dictated by our natural inclinations.
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F*ck WalMart.
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Yep
I'll wait weeks for my local small-biz guys to restock, if need be. At least they know me by name & call me when my order's in.
Fail*mart can suck it.
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It is a shame. I miss the deep discount.
The good old days of $13.00 -- 100 round boxes of Winchester 9mm range ammo may be long gone. I can find plenty of ammo at my local gun show. The problem is I am now looking at upwards of $300.00 per lot of 1000 rounds.
I think it is time to invest in reloading equipment.
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wait till you see the price
wait till you see the price of brass, bullets and powder.... primers... good luck finding them.
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i guess it's where your at
Here in Ohio, Walmart is sold out of most everything a day after they restock.
But Bill Goodmans comes through once or twice a month sometimes, and our local dealers stay decently supplied.
But the Gun show is packed with tables selling brass, bullets, powder, primers, etc... At first when Obama got elected it was bad, but then everything died down a hair. Still, everyone who is there at 9 when the doors open get the goods.
I always check when I'm in any Walmart store.
They often suggest that I call after the delivery trucks are unloaded to see if anything I'm looking for has arrived but so far I haven't bothered since I'm not interested in racing down there to try to beat several dozen other buyers to the freshly arrived shipment. In the past couple weeks I've found 22LR and .223 ammo but have seen no 9mm for nine months at least.
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They subsidized the rapid growth of Wal-Mart -- They regulate, Then get them in their pocket.
Then give them deepdiscounts on ammunition
-- Wal-Mart develops a monopolist position in ammo sales
Then the gov't says -- "Wal-Mart we will subsidize your losses and ask you to joing us in Gun-Control"
--Wal-Mart capitulates.
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--The Individual is NOT the Worker or Property Owner
--The Individual is the Consumer (the only one wise enough to regulate -- through free-exchange, the latter).
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when they finish
raping the middle class, outlawing our "stashed-cash" and issue food coupons, they will ONLY BE REDEEMABLE AT WALMART.
hahahahahaha -- well said
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Destruction of Gently Used Brass
Shortly after the destruction of the brass went into effect, constituents were able to convince their congress critters to put pressure on the policymakers and have it changed so that this massive fleecing was averted. Talk about waste! Scrapping perfectly reloadable cartridges as scrap brass was throwing out like 80cents on the dollar that could have been recovered. The idiocy of anti-gunners is astounding.
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That was supposedly reversed,
according to Georgia Arms, one of the biggest reloaders in the country. It was supposedly going to cost the Govt. more to destroy it than they could sell it for scrap.
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It's not just Walmart.
Sporting goods stores and gun stores are all very short of ammo and some kinds of guns. At least they were for quite a while; I don't know if the shortages have eased up.
Ammo Shortage???
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I've been getting my 7.62x39 for about 30 cents a cartridge. Buy it in bulk. Had to wait 6 months to get any from Cabella's and it's the same sad story at Walmart here in Toledo. The clerk there told me when it does come in, it disappears just as quickly as it goes on the shelf.
I don't even bother looking anywhere else anymore. Gunbroker works for me.
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that is where I buy my stuff
that is where I buy my stuff too.
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
here's what's going on with a lot of Wal Marts
people who work at the store are calling people the second they get shipments of ammo in. i know this to be fact. this might not be the complete answer, but it has something to do with it.
my uncle has been doing this for months. he has a friend who works at his local Wal Mart. i forget which caliber he's always looking for, but it doesn't go with any gun i own. i'm sure the same is being done for 9mm, .40cal and so on.
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I know that in certain calibers
the military has ordered HUGE amounts of ammo.
Billions and billions of rounds.(Carl Sagan, Ha!)
There is speculation that it was done purposely to keep all the major ammo makers back-ordered for a long time, and dry up supplies that could get to the public, because all their production would be going to the military for years..
Ruining ammo too.
Obama also ordered the military to ruin reloadable "fired once" cartridges before selling them for scrap. That's taking something that's worth up to a dollar and turning it into something that's worth a few cents.
IDK
I have heard that line from ammo dealers at the gun show, saying they are using it all up in Iraq, and Afghanistan.
Could be.
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They don't necessarily
have to be "using it up".
They just have to keep enough massive orders going in, to keep the major ammo makers back-ordered.
That keeps the machinery running for military sales, and the commercial market gets slim pickin's, if anything.
The local fish and game shop has been good on ammo
all through the panic. http://www.midwayusa.com/
& http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/
have been decent online. Walmart has been a joke. Bass Pro is charging 27 bucks for rmc LRN .38 spl. (used to be 10-11 dollars).
I went to a gun show in Montgomery Sunday after church. Revolvers appeared to be at somewhat decent prices. Semi Auto pistols were to high, and shotguns and rifles were just ridiculous. They were wanting to sell Mosin Nagants for near $200.00, they had used Marlin model 60's for $175 (new now cost $149.00. And the ammo I looked at looked like they had bought it at wal-mart and then marked it up double. The only thing I saw that I even considered getting was a saiga semi auto .410 for $329.
I am concentrating on stocking brass, lead, and primers now, I am pretty good on ammo. But, I keep my eyes open whenever I am at wal-mart or any where else and if they have it, and it isn't priced like platinum I get it.
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Hey ODell
You have any leads on large rifle primers? I saw a couple of months ago, that they were going for 175.00 for a brick of 1000. SHEEESH!!!!!
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the basspro in prattville al had them for $40.00 a thousand last
Saturday. These folks had them also about 3 weeks ago for about the same price. http://www.waltercraig.com/ I don't know if they would ship to you or not. The bad thing is if you order them and don't buy in person you have to pay a hazmat charge.
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I'll check 'em out.
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