Here's What You're Not Supposed to Learn: Obama is Inelligible for President Even if Born in U.S. - Constitutional Radio
Submitted by We the People on Thu, 08/06/2009 - 20:14Constitutional Radio -- Interview of Attorney Mario Apuzzo and Charles Kerchner, CDR USNR Retired, Aug 4, 2009. Kerchner is currently suing Barack Obama.
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Amid the confusion of birth certificate wars, state controlled media propaganda, and even Congress declaring Obama a citizen, what you are not supposed to learn is that it doesn't even matter where Barack Obama was born.
It's a constitutional issue.
The Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen so that the commander in chief will not have any allegiance to any other nation. As such, a constitutional natural born citizen must be born of two citizens.
Barack Obama's father was not a citizen and therefore Obama is not eligible for president.
"When drafting the eligibility requirements for the President, the Founding Fathers distinguished between "Citizen" and "natural born Citizen" in Article II, sec. 1, cl. 5 and in Articles I, III, and IV of the Constitution. Per the Founders, while Senators and Representatives can be just “citizens,” after 1789 the President must be a "natural born Citizen." The Founders wanted to assure that the Office of President and Commander in Chief of the Military, a non-collegial and unique and powerful civil and military position, was free of all foreign influence and that its holder have sole and absolute allegiance, loyalty, and attachment to the U.S."
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/07/what-to-tell-birthers-bash...
Legal summary:
Obama Presidential Eligibility - An Introductory Primer
http://people.mags.net/tonchen/birthers.htm
















The Law of Nations, Vattel, 1758.
Used by Ben Franklin, John Jay, George Washington, and others.
Vol.1, Ch.19, Section 212:
“natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens”
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Aside from Ron Paul
... not being President, are you not glad at least we have an intelligent President instead of GW, Quayle, and the like ? Sure Obama is a socialist, but could you imagine McCain's trailer park trash getting us out of this mess ?
IMO, we will eventually muddle our way out of this mess, and the Federal Government will start cutting programs because nobody will be lending money to those idiots anymore. Money goes to where it is best treated (Free Market).
"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history." ~ Dan Quayle
The best criminals are intelligent too.
McCain was designed to lose.
It doesn't matter if everyone stops lending, they can keep printing. And, that failing, they will create a new global currency.
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This I like and this is
This I like and this is probably the only viable argument against his eligibility. I am partly inclined to agree with it. Both parents should be born in the US. However, technically being born in the US does make you a citizen first and foremost of the US.
It's not even that strict. Both parents must be citizens is all.
As long as both parents are Americans, their children are qualified to be the American president.
Legal immigration is fine. Where the problem arises with Barack Obama, is that his father is a foreigner and was never American.
If the children of foreigners could be President, then we could have a child of two Al Qaeda, two North Koreans, or two Chinese for president.
All they would have to do to make their children eligible is get into the country somehow and have a child.
That's why the Constitution requires that to be eligible for president you must be natural born. And that means born of two citizens.
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If both your parents are
If both your parents are american but your mom happens to be on vacation in bulgaria and you pop out, you are not an american citizen, or at least a "natural" born citizen.
It Appears Obama is Gearing Up to "Produce" a Birth Certificate:
NBC and Huffington post couldn't have possibly thought this was a good video, except for the entirely deceived, or in the case that a certificate is being produced:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1DAWlVLrgo
But when that time comes, remember the Constitution!
No Obama Birth Certificate even matters, except as further evidence of Obama's ineligibility!
Obama's father was not an American!
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The winner of every presidential race....
is always the one with the bluest blood (PERIOD)
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.
Did he not
travel with Indonesian passports?
Does that not invalidate him?
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Benjamin Franklin to To:
Benjamin Franklin to To: Charles William Frederic Dumas
Dear Sir,
Philadelphia, 9 December, 1775.
I received your several favors, of May 18th, June 30th, and July 8th, by Messrs. Vaillant and Pochard;(1) whom if I could serve upon your recommendation, it would give me great pleasure. Their total want of English is at present an obstruction to their getting any employment among us; but I hope they will soon obtain some knowledge of it. This is a good country for artificers or farmers; but gentlemen of mere science in les belles lettres cannot so easily subsist here, there being little demand for their assistance among an industrious people, who, as yet, have not much leisure for studies of that kind.
I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations. Accordingly that copy, which I kept, (after depositing one in our own public library here, and sending the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed,) has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author. Your manuscript "Idee sur le Gouvernement et la Royaute" is also well relished, and may, in time, have its effect. I thank you, likewise, for the other smaller pieces, which accompanied Vattel. "Le court Expose de ce qui s'est passe entre la Cour Britannique et les Colonies," bc. being a very concise and clear statement of facts, will be reprinted here for the use of our new friends in Canada. The translations of the proceedings of our Congress are very acceptable. I send you herewith what of them has been farther published here, together with a few newspapers, containing accounts of some of the successes Providence has favored us with. We are threatened from England with a very powerful force, to come next year against us.(2) We are making all the provision in our power here to oppose that force, and we hope we shall be able to defend ourselves. But, as the events of war are always uncertain, possibly,
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=DelVol02...
http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/bho-the-stubbo...
Def of natural born in Vattel's Law of Nations:
http://www.obamacitizenshipfacts.org/
Good Post.
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Guess I cant be president
Guess I cant be president then, even though both my parents are US citizens
Ventura 2012
Are you trying to be president?
If so, you should work to amend the Constitution.
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hmm
Fortune Favors the Bold
were from your mother's womb untimely ripped?
Fortune Favors the Bold
no, but one of my parents
no, but one of my parents wasnt born here.
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Your parents don't have to be natural born, just citizens.
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Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Must be citizens at the time
Must be citizens at the time of birth.
Of course in our democracy what the majority wants,the majority gets.
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"...we are face to face with the problem whether ours is a government under a written constitution and the laws made pursuant thereto, or whether it is a government by ambitious and usurping men.'" -- F.Pierce
"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820
he/she wasnt. Didnt know
he/she wasnt. Didnt know that made a difference. but whatever.
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Obama's family
interesting argument.
do you realize this is Obama's family?
I still have hope that Obama is a secret radical and is on Ron Paul's side :)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Singletary_Dunham
Jonathan Singletary Dunham (January 17, 1640 – September 6, 1724) was a prominent early American settler of Woodbridge Township, New Jersey.[1] [2] [3] He is President Barack Obama’s eighth great-grandfather and the first of Obama’s ancestors to be born in North America.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham
Stanley Armour Dunham (March 23, 1918–February 8, 1992) is the American maternal grandfather of Barack Obama, the President of the United States. He and his wife Madelyn helped raise Obama from age 10 in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Stanley Armour Dunham’s distant cousins include six US presidents: James Madison, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush. [19] Through a common ancestor, Mareen Duvall, a wealthy Huguenot merchant who emigrated to Maryland in the 1650s, Stanley Dunham is related to former Vice-President Dick Cheney (an eighth cousin once removed).[20] Through another common ancestor, Hans Gutknecht, a Swiss German from Bischwiller, Alsace whose three sons resettled in Germantown, Pennsylvania as well as the Kentucky frontier in the mid-1700s, Stanley Dunham is President Harry S. Truman's fourth cousin, twice removed.
That is some seriously ill placed hope.
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Ha! gotta agree with sempiteral on this one.
Ron Paul is my President.
Ron Paul is my President.
Obama is president
...it is a done deal. Can't you tell ??? It is one big club and you ain't in it !
It's not over. Obama is currently being sued.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17748032/Kerchner-et-al-v-Obama-Co...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17914196/Kerchner-v-Obama-Congress...
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It's over
A critical key to achieving federal constitutional compliance is to resurrect quo warranto and other common law writs. This involves reasserting and strengthening the original All-Writs Act and repealing or declaring unconstitutional legislation, such as the Anti-Injunction Act, and those Rules of Judicial Procedure, that have restricted the jurisdiction of federal courts to accept petitions for these writs and grant a fair hearing ("oyer") and a decision on the merits ("terminer") on such petitions.
I agree ... obumma is their
I agree ... obumma is their boy.. it is appointed job to finish the job that bush senior clinton and bush jr. started.. to bring the US into the one world government..
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
It's not over, and never will be.
Over for submissive socialists like you, yes.
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Maybe
... but have you figured what to do with all the people who voted for Obama vs Paul so we can get past this submissiveness ? I think your venting on DP is very healthy, I would hate to see you hurt yourself out of sheer frustration.
One issue at time. Freedom will prevail in the end.
As I've said before, you're actually helping the cause of freedom, whether you realize it or not; every minute you spend here, every minute you spend defending socialism.
Eventually, some day you'll probably even realize you're wrong.
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I was for Obama in the beginning
... when he said he was going to bring the troops home, but I was on a quasi Marine Corps web-site at the time, and a former Marine Sergeant (Afro-American) told me not to trust Obama (AIPAC) and take a look at Ron Paul. I sent Ron Paul $250.00 and campaigned for him. In hindsight (20/20) I should of stuck with Ralph Nader. Ron Paul is similar, but I think Nader is more to my liking.
Obama is not running the country, the country is running Obama. If Ron Paul had the charm and charisma that Obama has, not only you, but all us smart asses would be scratching our heads wondering what do with all our worthless paper money. That is if you have any ?
It is as if I'm playing whack a mole with your posts. Squealing becomes you ?
Nader is a pure socialist with the charisma of a monitor lizard.
Ron Paul is the Truth which many people cannot handle!
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