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National Guard asked to explain 'INTERNment' jobs (YiKES!)

Submitted by carpavel on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 09:12
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Well I half didn't believe it, That is the camps to lock up americans but it seems to be true.

What the hell is going on in our country? This is sick!

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National Guard asked to explain 'internment' jobs
Campaign recruiting for workers at 'civilian resettlement facility'

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

An ad campaign featured on a U.S. Army website seeking those who would be interested in being an "Internment/Resettlement" specialist is raising alarms across the country, generating concerns that there is some truth in those theories about domestic detention camps, a roundup of dissidents and a crackdown on "threatening" conservatives.

The ads, at the GoArmy.com website as well as others including Monster.com, cite the need for:
"Internment/Resettlement (I/R) Specialists in the Army are primarily responsible for day-to-day operations in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility. I/R Specialists provide rehabilitative, health, welfare, and security to U.S. military prisoners within a confinement or correctional facility; conduct inspections; prepare written reports; and coordinate activities of prisoners/internees and staff personnel.
The campaign follows by only weeks a report from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security warning about "right-wing extremists" who could pose a danger to the country – including those who support third-party political candidates, oppose abortion and would prefer to have the U.S. immigration laws already on the books enforced.

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Vigilant Guard Project Overview

Submitted by busted on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 11:38.

I hope this google doc works for you. Received from a state representative:
http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.3&thid=12...

Please post this

Submitted by truthy on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 12:03.

in a different format.

WE need patriots infiltrating and securing those positions

Submitted by lynnopoly on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 11:37.

If you wont fight for the right when you can easily win...you may...have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival [or] when there is no chance of victory...it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
W.Churchill

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Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Truthfully,

Submitted by BigT on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 08:51.

we need as many supporters in all branches of the military, including the National Guard, as we can get.
And that goes for all forms of Law Enforcement too.

We focus, and rightly so, on the law makers, but it is the rank-and-file gov't employees and agencies which have to carry out the orders.

Without that "ground support", the tyranny fails.

Whether we want to admit it or not, the people in these positions can be allies, and can actually stand in the breech to protect us from these tyrants.
No, not all of them will, and perhaps many/most won't. But, the more that will, is all the better for us.

For every "asshole" in these services, there's at least one good person who knows right and wrong, even if they may have been coerced in the past by superiors to do some wrong things.
We need them, and they need us.

I know it's easy to "brand" all these services as "potential attackers", but they don't all have to be that way, and they won't all be that way.
Enough of the right people in the right places, and they can deter, hold back, derail, delay, or prevent, the tyranny process.

I get as angry as anybody else when I see gov't employees and military and LE abusing people. I've been vocal about it, and it really burns me up.
But, not every one of them is like that, and we really do need all the help we can get.

"For every "asshole" in these services, ....

Submitted by SteveMT on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 11:39.

there's at least one good person who knows right and wrong, even if they may have been coerced in the past by superiors to do some wrong things.
We need them, and they need us."

Whether asshole or good person, they were both trained to follow orders. We will be labeled and attacked as terrorists, traitors, and dissidents.
They will follow the orders that are given to them.
What will these orders be and will they follow these orders?
You will hope they they do the right thing? In reality, they will do what they are ordered to do, what they have been trained to do! "Yes, Sir!"

If you were being taken to an internment center, would you

Submitted by MikeLawson on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 11:23.

feel the same way? I agree with what you're saying, but it wouldn't help in an internment situation. I'm sure all prison wardens don't agree with the war on drugs, but they don't let anyone go home. If a soldier has a choice between taking your freedom or losing his, you're done.
If they are good and don't like what's going on, they'll either come to our side by going awol, or they'll do their job and feel bad about it.

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Please refrain from calling dailypaul readers idiots !

Submitted by riceowlex on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 08:34.

That term is reserved for the people that represent dailypaul readers.
That and other deservedly seriously nasty terms. As far as reserve people
literally becoming regulars, that been going on for quite a while, where have you been ?

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Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

Minimize it and it will go away.

Submitted by Rebel on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 22:43.

America would never lockup dissidents. Nor would America control healthcare, contol your food, tax the air you breathe, control your speech, allow big banks to rob you blind, etc.

The shadow government has been building up to this for at least the last two decades. Do your research or go back to sleep.ZZZZZZZ

Do you idiots forget

Submitted by SSgT_AF on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 21:21.

That the National Guard is a one weekend a month,2 weeks a year operation? Seriously. These people have normal jobs like you and me. They work these jobs and for a weekend,that's two(2) days, out of a month they head out to their respective bases.

I think you people watch to much TV and Hollywood.

So a guy who works with you all month and goes to a base for 2 days is going to kill you? He could be your coworker and you wouldn't even know it.

IF they do start rounding us up it will be via the UN.

I got your idiot

Submitted by Freeman08 on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 10:02.

wanna come get it?

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Are you living in the 1960's?

Submitted by Ron Aldof on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 08:59.

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Did you ever have a dude on summer drill for an instructor?

Submitted by MikeLawson on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 22:27.

They can be the biggest a-holes of all. All year they flip burgers and get reamed by the boss, but for 2 weeks--they're the boss.
This has nothing to do with 31-E's, I just remember how friggin annoying the reservists were.

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SSgT_AF: You should rethink what you said.

Submitted by SteveMT on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 21:36.

Veterans for America (VFA) is greatly concerned that between now and the end of President

George W. Bush’s term in office on January 20, 2009, almost half of the Soldiers who are scheduled to deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan – totaling almost 20,000 troops – will come from the National Guard.

Further, nearly half of the Army National Guard Brigade Combat Teams (BCT’s) deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan in this time frame will be on their second tour. Also, VFA has found that a very high percentage of Guard members in units on their first deployment will be on their second
or greater deployment. More than 50% of members of the Washington National Guard have been deployed before, as have more than 30% of the New Jersey Guard.

To put the deployments of the National Guard in historical context, at least 35 states have deployed more troops to Iraq and Afghanistan than to any war since World War II.1 In all, as of March 31, 2008, more than 267,399 members of the National Guard have been deployed since
September 11, 2001, and, as of that date, 32,871 National Guard troops were deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan.

http://www.veteransforamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/07...

You just proved my point

Submitted by SSgT_AF on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 22:01.

If they are going to round us up they're not or cant use national guard troops. They will be using UN troops for the national guard as been deployed "Over there". Thanks for helping me out.

You are missing the point. These people are not weekend....

Submitted by SteveMT on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 22:24.

warriors. They have seen as much action as other branches of the military and are capable of performing in the same way.

"That the National Guard is a one weekend a month,2 weeks a year operation? Seriously. These people have normal jobs like you and me. They work these jobs and for a weekend,that's two(2) days, out of a month they head out to their respective bases."

You are wrong about the above statement.

"So a guy who works with you all month and goes to a base for 2 days is going to kill you? He could be your coworker and you wouldn't even know it."

And you are wrong about this statement as well.

read my reply below...

Submitted by TargeT on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 22:43.

read my reply below... seriously

I was deployed with the national guard, its vastly different from active duty.

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

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“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

I think not

Submitted by SSgT_AF on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 22:34.

You keep proving my point. Thanks.

I'll pretend you didn't say that

Submitted by Thundercloud on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 21:33.

But, seems to me there are quite a few National Guard units deployed overseas. 10's of thousands of people.
A bit more than a weekend job.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

The national guard is a

Submitted by TargeT on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 21:03.

The national guard is a different breed of military, we think for ourselfs much more and are less "brain washed" than active duty (I've been both).

unlawful orders would quickly be questioned.

if the guard is used it will be in a logicistic/support way to the real thugs that do the dirty work, this is how it is in the warzones right now.

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

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“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

Combine this

Submitted by truthy on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 20:47.

with the bill in either the House or the Senate (I don't remember the bill number or which house) but it seeks to "authorize" the use of FEMA camps. Anyone else see a pattern here?

I think it's HR 645, I don't think it passed yet.

Submitted by pseudonym on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 22:43.

Yes we see the pattern, but not enough of us are seeing it.

The National Guard Supports The American People.

Submitted by Greg Butko on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 11:44.

I am retired from the National Guard, and I will tell you that the vast majority of guardsmen and guardswomen support the American people, not our politicians. We have experienced the tremendous support displayed by the people of this nation. I continued to receive boxes of all sorts of supplies from people I didn't know when I was in Iraq, and so did everyone I worked with. Don think that the National Guard is going to turn on the American people.

Maybe these internment camps are to house some of our politicians while they await their trials.

Will they refuse to follow

Submitted by Victoria on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 11:48.

Will they refuse to follow orders when the time comes?

Perhaps not.

Submitted by Joesmoe on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 20:51.

But military breakdown never happens all at once. It begins with a steady rise in desertions culminating in open mutiny by small groups. These small groups then band together into an amoeba-like mass, forming their own structure to negotiate with or destroy the original chain of command and political leadership.

CHA-CHING!

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CHA-CHING!

great find

Submitted by legalizeliberty on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 11:21.

Thank you for posting this article.

"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman." -- Thomas Paine

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It doesn't specify "domestic"

Submitted by pseudonym on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 10:43.

So we don't have enough information to act on that. They can too easily refute and scoff at any complaints about that, saying it's for internment ABROAD.

But there is plenty of evidence that quarantine plans are being withheld from the public, and that's very significant. Please, go out and ask local and state health officials for exact details about the quarantine protocols and see the black curtain around that information. That seems to be evidence of a SECRET. And THAT is sick. Their failure to provide assurances of the rights of quarantined individuals tells me they HAVE no rights, and lends credence to all the wildest FEMA camp scenarios, in my opinion.

I'm addressing this to anyone reading here:

What shall we call people who believe in FEMA camps so we can stigmatize and malign them simplistically and categorically dismiss all the evidence they cite for their concerns? "Campers"? I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet. It seems that people, in their fear of being seen as Campers, refuse to consider the treacherous, real quarantines laws that may lead to Camp, and refuse to utter even the slightest protest. That is bending over backwards to be a conformist, frankly.

I am suspicious of any government that persecutes people for merely being suspicious. I am suspicious of a government that arrogates to itself the right of quarantine without providing happy tours of quarantine facilities and a bill of rights for quarantined citizens.

"Campers"?

Submitted by Jiminy Cricket on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 21:34.

Doh! Let's not be givin' freebie label ideas.

Seriously, though, I agree with you that I'm surprised someone hasn't already come up with a clever little name to group people and marginalize them on this issue.

The interesting thing is that labeled groups get attention

Submitted by pseudonym on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 22:53.

I think the term "Birther" was just born this past month, and it seems to me that interest in the actual story has skyrocketed since that word was coined. I think THIS issue would really benefit from more media exposure, good or bad....so yeah, I"m ready to be a Camper. It was hard becoming a Truther, and this is just more of the same, only this deals with the future.

If someone's got a better or different name for the FEMA-fearing masses, I'll take it.