If you could escape the country and live under the radar, would you?
Submitted by MikeLawson on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 21:57
It's something I've given a lot of thought to recently and I'm wondering if any of you have considered this option. I know it feels like giving up, but I'm looking at more like passing the torch. I've spent 22 years fighting this battle and I'm tired. At the very least maybe a year or so away will give some perspective and new found strength. If I did something like this, I'd like to go with other awakened people. What are your thoughts?
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If we run, they win by default.
Personally, I believe we are all in for a very rough time. But, I also believe that it will not be a cakewalk for the power elite either.
It is a fact that a revolution is currently happening. The Federal Reserve (the greatest enemy of freedom) is about to collapse due to corruption and bankruptcy (it will not be audited). This nation must be rebuilt from scratch. It cannot be changed or improved from within. The elite will not give up power… Not ever. It must be taken away and never given back.
Also, think about the power elite for a moment. This economic collapse is happening to all of their institutions. The banks (read FED) are imploding. I laugh when people talk about how much of the federal debt each American owes. Lest we forget, it is impossible for Americans to pay any debt. Why? Because, all money today IS debt. It is simply impossible to pay a debt with a debt. It's all an illusion. let the world foreclose on Washington, D.C.. I personally don't owe squat… and neither do you or your progeny.
I admit, there are frightening things coming, but I'm not at all sure that it will end in disaster. When everything a man has is taken from them, they have nothing left to lose. Perhaps then, people will stop automatically obeying every edict from the criminals in charge and just refuse to cooperate (peaceful civil disobedience). Mahatma Gandi, brought down the British empire and he never carried a gun… He just refused to anything that he knew was inherently wrong. That is what we will all have to do.
Many people will die, but I don't think that the NWO will ultimately prevail. There are far worse things than death and I seriously doubt that there is a place on earth where anyone can hide and be safe. The power elite are going to realize this very fast after we win.
Now, I am hardly what anyone would consider a brave man… but I'm not running. This is my country. Screw the bastards. Oops, that just slipped! Sorry :-)
Solution to tyranny: “Be the change you want to see in the world.” Mahatma Gandhi
“Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality”
I'd like to be left alone, in every governmental sense. But
then, that's never been the nature of government. The efficiency of their radar has tended to improve with the passage of time. Having a little government is like having a little malignant cancer.
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
No, because then I couldn't find any violent SEUI thugs
to hit with a metal softball bat. They want healthcare badly enough to Gladney in a wheelchair, so they can run their union membership numbers up.
That's why they donated $61 million to Obama's campaign, and it's payback time.
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"The consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of the ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it."
- Robert E. Lee, 1866
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KaBoom?
is that a clock telling us the time is almost up? Or a suitcase bomb?
Cleaning out my work boots
found 3 ticks. Thought I'd share. ;)
If the military ever brings out a sound weapon to use on Americans, I'll know for sure if it's time to leave. Let's hope that day never comes.
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sorry for the bad news
Sound cannons & tear gas being used on G20 protesters right now
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=410287
one on my shirt yesterday.
My neighbor who think's he's six thousand years old, half space alien and was born in Roswell actually saw it. I said, "shut up crazy, you don't know what you're talking about" then I googled it and he was right, makes me think
If they sound bomb us, and cars won't work, I'll be heading to Connecticut to get my boat and try to make it to NewFoundland. I can eat Cod for the rest of my life, just need a deep fryer. (I'll be bringin oreos too)
I have room for 6, but I don't know how well we'll do, I never took my 19 foot maxim into the open ocean
"The state cannot establish
"The state cannot establish morality," Argentina Supreme Court President Ricardo Lorenzetti said.
Just maybe theres hope
Why advocate running away?
This is coming to the entire world. There is no escaping it. I'd rather fight for my homeland instead of cowardly turning my back on my principals and fellow countrymen. America is the final battleground where one can take a stand and make a difference. Life is short, you are going to die anyway. Why not go out with some dignity and courage instead?
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
I agree
I agree with your point - a one world government is coming no matter what country you live in and Mike I understand. But living under the radar means complete self sufficiency. Eventually, you'll need to deal with people on goods and services and I'd rather do that in a country I love and understand the language & culture. Don't get weary in well doing - there is profit in all labor my friend.
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ditto!!!
i second that response...i don't want to live in another country although i would like to visit many and, perhaps, stay for an extended visit in a few...
but, in today's world, i will fight right here and right now for freedom...i believe if you can not be free here then you can not possibly be free anywhere else!
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
I have been in this battle a
I have been in this battle a long time too Mike. We used to use shortwave and vcr tapes to wake people up. It was time consuming and many times disheartening. We marched DC to audit the fed in '91, A nationwide gathering of about 600 people. I talked to people like Eustace Mullins who has been fighting even before I was born. Now I feel old, I have been fighting since before many of our great new patriots were born.
Why do I continue? For Cooper, Russo, Lennon, Marley, and a host of others who fought "till their dying breath". Sometimes I walk at gettysburg.
Now I see a difference. This internet age is must faster than shortwave and vcr..... we have an alternative media. The question is are we too far gone, is their anyway to save the republic. Is there an insurrection coming that will be planted among us. What will be the outcome. I hear a lot of people have been buying guns, thats great but they do not know who the enemy is. This country may be going thru a very tough time very soon.
I know I have said this before but ... This coming 2010 election will be the last for this country. Retake congress sounds like a good idea. It may just work, the populace is uneasy and we have a way of communicating with them. However a good insurrection would stop it.
I have looked around for a back door and discovered Belize. If you look into it you will understand why I chose there. Progresso Heights
PEACE
Tell me more about Belize if retake Congress does not work.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI
How can Retake Congress work?
When the elections are so easily rigged?
I hope to live outside of
I hope to live outside of the USA at least 6 months out of the year. I don't feel I can afford to retire in this country. It will be necessary to live somewhere else. My plan is to leave in about 5 years, considering my age and selling off real estate. Plus we are in an eminent domain situation with the county. And that will determine how fast we can liquidate and get out. I am considering leaving first to establish residency and have my boyfriend come later. I will still need to work since I am in my early 50's. So I need to get a job in another country before I get too old.
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“Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value - zero”. Voltaire-1729
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As someone else mentioned in
As someone else mentioned in an earlier post, this is world wide. However I do sadly believe our country will be used as an example to show the rest of the world, so that the other countries will not fight as hard against the changes coming. Think of America's pride thru the years. We were once a great country, and could be again, but only if people realize that are powerless to stop the events on their own. This has always been, and will continue to be a spiritual battle. That is the reason our country needs to turn back to God, if we truly expect to have the freedoms we once held, and for the prosperity of our country. Then and only then will God bless America again.
On a 40 'garbage scow' of a sailboat.
You can't tax a boat. And if they charge you for anchorage, you leave,
along with all the other boats.
Free fish.
IF i wasn't allergic to
IF i wasn't allergic to shellfish and despise seafood, I'd be headed to waterworld.
miami...guy,
if you don't like seafood, then,
stick around, and fight over the last cow, or chicken, or stalk of celery.
Prophecy seems to advocate leaving
”And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.”
-Revelation 18:4
Part of me would rather stay, fight and die than to run from these satanic, fascist pigs, but the more rational part of me has seen their overwhelmingly thorough and all-encompassing "divine" plans that they have against the people. They definitely have all their bases covered down to a very fine-grain level of detail. As I write that I hear the infamous question, "Who can make war with the beast?"
I'm up for going except that there are certain individuals whom I cannot leave behind, and who will not or cannot go with me. If I could work through that issue then you bet - I'd be all for leaving.
We have to consider, though, that leaving will only prolong the inevitable. The new world order crap infecting America will spread and follow us everywhere in a relatively short time.
That passage does not mean
That passage does not mean to physically leave, it means to remove yourself from the fraudulent jurisdiction they try to impose. It is voluntary.
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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!
Get Prepared!
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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!
Get Prepared!
Look at the original words
It says “come out” and it doesn't mean abstain or don't associate or anything similar.
In this passage, “come” is taken from the Greek word “exerchomai” (ex-er'-khom-ahee) having the following definition:
To issue:--come (forth, out), depart (out of), escape, get out, flee, go (abroad, away, forth, out, thence), proceed (forth), spread abroad.
And “out” is from the Greek “ek ek” or “ex ex” having the following definition:
A primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; direct or remote):--after, among, X are, at, betwixt(-yond), by (the means of), exceedingly, (+ abundantly above), for(- th), from (among, forth, up), + grudgingly, + heartily, X heavenly, X hereby, + very highly, in, ...ly, (because, by reason) of, off (from), on, out among (from, of), over, since, X thenceforth, through, X unto, X vehemently, with(-out). Often used in composition, with the same general import; often of completion.
To me that says, "Pack your bags, Echelon." :-)
On the surface yes but if
On the surface yes but if you understand how the ancient Jews actually wrote very metaphorically with at least 3 layers of meaning the surface meaning was just to conceal the true meaning from non believers.
And if you look at the context and other clues such as falling in one hour, Babylon signifying the world or system etc. its obviously a metaphor
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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!
Get Prepared!
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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!
Get Prepared!
Taking a good, hard look at what we're up against
Obama's "puppet master" Brzezinski:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh1GwDUx1Fc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbz9sVw4QsM
Note that he supported Khmer Rouge and helped create Al-Qaeda. There is no way to overstate how dangerous this man is, how scary our future looks with him controlling things.
So we're thinking of moving.
Five best islands to live on:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8670220
absolutely
sometimes I think it's the safest thing we can do, I wouldn't mind cashing in my dollars while they are still worth something and starting over somewhere. I've given a lot of thought to where, I would like it to be somewhere that i can speak english with others. I'd also like it to be a place with beautiful exotic women, South America, maybe Argentina. Also, places in southeast asia and possibly Australia, but I don't know about Aussie women. Europe? Maybe Ireland or Eastern Europe, the woman there are beautiful with high cheekbones and they have great beer and everything is dirt cheap.
I understand the need to stay and fight, and know we could do much more if we stayed to help the resistance, but I don't want to get rendered either. But, American women are amazing and I love them all!
No matter what anyone thinks, we are all probably considered enemies of the state and are on a long list of people that will probably be dealt with sooner or later, especially if the SHTF.
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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI
To each his own
I sure don't see anything wrong with leaving. But we are in the middle of the NWO. That W stands for world. However, the US is causing this and we are definitely in a hot seat-not only from outsiders, but also and more especially, from our own elite. I won't go anyplace without my extended family and they won't go anyplace until they can't. So I'm in for whatever happens, but I am not comfortable with it.
If I were going, I would go for three weeks on a long vacation first to my place of choice. I can't even think of a place I would really be comfortable even doing that.
Ideally, we take this country back--actually, that should say "get it for the first time." But we are going to have to do it without money and without might. Now that is going to take a whole lot of intelligence or God.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=The+new+atlantis&emb=0...
I'm sticken around
I want to be here when "WE" win...
I want to sit on the couch with my great grand kids and tell them the story about how I fought with everything I had, so they can live free.
I'll tell them how we had to climb hills and never gave up.
I'll tell them how we raised our own food, cause the govt was trying to
get rid of us. I'll let them know what the pharma company WAS.
I'll tell them about what the Fed Res. & IRS was, that we gave 35%
of everything we made to a fraud. Least that is gone.
Then I'll say, listen...cause I did this for you
You see things; and you say 'Why?'
But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?'
George Bernard Shaw
"When you reach the end of your rope,
tie a knot in it and hang on."
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i'm with you, smkf...
you, me, and everyone else with the cahones to understand what is at stake need to get toe to toe, back to back, and fight like we are going to die because, if we don't fight here and now, we surely will die!
we will die the death of a coward, we die on our knees, and we will die a thousand times over every time we see our children begging in the streets we used to own...
we don't have to die like that! if i am to die, let it be on my feet with my face into the teeth of adversity...
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!