Witchcraft in the White House?

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It seems grandma practices witchcraft! What is this all about?

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It's funny...... why hasn't

It's funny...... why hasn't anyone every said: "Christianity in the White House?

It seems grandma practices Christianity! What is this all about?

To me there is no practical difference. I find it amusing how freedom of religion only applies to the "approved" varieties........

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I find it amusing some

I find it amusing some people can not separate right from wrong and good from bad..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Sure we can...

Your religion is good, all others and lack thereof are bad... If it is close enough to yours, maybe you will tolerate it, but it can't stray too far or they get cut off...

I am an atheist and I defend your right to be a Christian, or a Buddhist, Wiccan, or any other thing you can possibly imagine. I do this, not because I like you or your religion which I do not. I do this, quite simply because it is the right thing to do.

But as you said, some people cannot separate right from wrong...

And let this thread die already... Hasn't it been loaded down with enough crap?

so what you are saying is

so what you are saying is there are no absolutes...

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

No...

"Your religion is good, all others and lack thereof are bad... If it is close enough to yours, maybe you will tolerate it, but it can't stray too far or they get cut off..."

That is me mocking your definition of right and wrong.

Right is me defending your right to your beliefs, even though I personally loath them.

Wrong is only supporting freedom for those we agree with.

But I don't think you understand this.

Your logic

is impeccable. Prepare to be flamed.

Freedom of Religion

The ongoing argument in this thread is not only circular, but also insulting to those who are not Christians. It is our God(s) given right to worship however, and whomever, we choose secured by our Constitution. The continual denigration of those who do not worship the Christian God has created an atmosphere of hostility. It goes way beyond freedom of speech and hinges on purposeful provocation.

To label a brother or sister for liberty "evil" simply because of their religious beliefs, flies in the face of all that we are fighting for. We are trying to get our government to heed the Constitution, yet if we can't each heed the peaceful doctrines of our own religions, how can we expect the government to follow the Constitution. Its cliche', but you really do have to "be the change you want to see."

Perhaps we can all practice what we preach! Freedom of religion! Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to each in his own way! Otherwise, we are no different than the hypocrites that currently rule this country.

Blessings )o(

Blessings )o(

Freedom of religion

Is fine. It's a constitutional right.

However, "Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law" as justification for "moral relativity" is not. You can see the manifestation of this in our society as the years go by and the problems that come with it.

It is an occult concept.

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"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. " - John Adams

I am doing my absolute best to be patient with you . . .

But you continue to insult those of us who do not feel as you do. Were you to get your information correct you'd see that the Rede says "And it harm NONE, do as thou will." Yes, do what you want is the whole of the law, as well as the law of threes - Mind the Three-fold Laws you should three times bad and three times good. Wiccans are aware that the energy they put out will come back to them three times. You, my friend, are going to get hit with some very negative energy.

http://www.wicca.com/celtic/wicca/rede.htm This is the law the Wiccans live by. Its a celebration of nature and the earth. A very beautiful philosophy, which you can see does not include ANY of the garbage you are spewing. Its a recognition of the turning of the year, the seasonal change that represents life and death.

Though I have my own opinion of Christianity, and BTW, the more you talk the stronger that opinion becomes, (just saying,) but I've not once referred to your, or your religion, in a denigrating manner. I and many of my Pagan brothers and sisters here at DP have tried to correct your information and get nothing but hostility.

You are lumping the occult, and Pagans, into the same category. You are calling them both evil when the fact of the matter is that Pagans don't hide their practices. So, anything Pagan and occult do not belong together. You have chosen to look at the most twisted examples in witchcraft and then have generalized it to mean all who practice the Craft. And even worse than that, you are trying to spread disinformation about our faiths by mixing the Judeo-Christian ideologies into your examples of bad Pagans.

Those who choose to worship the Hebrew Gods can do so at their own peril. Pagans do not worship the Hebrew War God, though some may borrow religious practices from Judeo-Christian tradition. (Rather, they may borrow them back as they were first Pagan.) Those few, however, do not represent the majority of Pagans.

In fact, I don't represent the majority of Pagans. No ONE Pagan can represent all Pagans, in fact, those that say they do, or intimate they do, are lying and the law of three will prove them. Each Pagan is different in how they worship and the Gods or God or Goddess they revere is personal unto themselves. We worship together, we worship alone. We heal and support each other spiritually as well as mentally, occasionally even physically. Or we don't. But one thing is certain, all of those that abide by the law of three, are charitable, loving, peaceful and dedicated to caring for the earth and its creatures. That even includes you.

So, in the interest of tolerance, and freedom of religion, I would ask that you please stop referring to Pagans as Occultists and all of the implications you infer with that word. We are not Occultists. We practice in the light, and in it, we harm none . . .

Thanks and Blessings )o(

Blessings )o(

Look what I found

I'm backing up my opinion with quotes from people who actually do serious research; and your own fellow practitioners.

"Even today virtually all occult systems (especially theosophical ones) and practices, including witchcraft and Satanism, borrow heavily from the Kabbalah in their rituals and symbolism." -- Theodore Pike, "Israel, Our Duty, Our Dilemma", page 103

Bleucreem summed it up below:

"What the NWO touts as their hidden occult beliefs, while parading around, on the surface, to being "christians," is NOT the same thing as what our fellow non-judeo christian DP Brothers and Sisters here, may or may not believe."

Wake up to the truth. It'll be awhile till you have the power of the Rothschilds.

And you said: "But I've not once referred to your, or your religion, in a denigrating manner.'

Yes you have, with the "third rate Hebrew war god" comments.

Better look again . . .

it wasn't me who said "third rate Hebrew war god," though I did say Hebrew War God because that is the identity of that God. Each culture has its war God, and that is the one that the Hebrews chose. I didn't make the history.

But third rate? nope, not me, not even a phrase I'd use

Blessings )o(

Blessings )o(

exactly right...

exactly right...

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Excellent post...

Very informative. Your beautiful spirit shines through. :)

I also agree with you..

I also agree with you.. right is right.. wrong is wrong..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Thanks Maeve

for saying exactly what I was thinking. Blessings to you too.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

as a Christian, I like what

as a Christian, I like what you say. Our founding fathers gave us freedom of religion because they saw how not having that right in the old country screwed things up.. I agree with you.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

I'll drink to that!

Here, Here! Or, Hear, Hear?! Oooh inebriated on libertine elixir.

Oh my dear Maeve, please, do not fret. Consider this growing pains with your siblings.

Cheerio, Blessed Be.

+20

(nt)

Yes, since 1913.

Wasn't Woodrow Wilson a warlock? :)

Nancy Reagan consulted an astrologer while in the White House.

With Reagan non compos mentis how much of our foreign and domestic policy was being planned through astrology? Luckily, we will probably never know.

Freedom of religion

Freedom of religion people.......HELLO......that means even if you don't agree with it.....

Sure can't hurt anymore than Christianity has the last several years in the White House!!!!

I haven't seen any

I haven't seen any Christianity in the white house since Carter.

Ventura 2012

you think carter was a

you think carter was a Christian?

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

I think his ass had a...

sticker that read "US.Pres.VooDoo Doll, Manufactured, and Genetically Cloned by CFR/TriLatComm" on it, much like the current bozo in DC Branch of GolmanSachs, *cough* I mean the WhiteHouse.

lol that is funny....

lol that is funny....

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

HAHAHA.......That's

HAHAHA.......That's hilarious!!!!!!!!!

Texe Marrs on Alex Jones today

To discuss this very thing.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

Oh boy....here we go again!

The "Christians" believe what they do as strongly as the Muslims believe or Jews believe what they do...as strongly as I believe that ALL of it is totally preposterous. The 'Jesus-freaks' can't be dragged away from their beliefs anymore than a homosexual can be 'cured' or than I can be convinced that the Bible is true.
Is this occult/witchcraft/santeria stuff the right way to go? Maybe....Maybe not. Who's to say? Were the Indians on the right track in worshiping Mother Earth? Maybe...
Ya'll are bickering over crap that doesn't matter. "Religion" is a man-made trap. Believe what you feel is right for you. Worship who/what-ever you feel is right for you. Do it at home with your loved-ones. Churches are businesses....nothing more.
Beer pre-dates Jesus by 3000 years or more...there's nothing wrong with drinking...I believe I'll have another bowl of cereal & Budweiser this morning just to celebrate!! (needling, ya'll...just needling!).

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

The difference

Between "religions"(at least what the masses are taught) and what these occultists "practice" is that in their case, Magick is their religion and their religion is Magick. Altering reality to confrom with your will and "moral relativity" is a whole different cans of worms from what mainstream religions teach. Occult means "hidden" and they're certainly hiding something. Notice they'll deny and spin spin spin, but when I shove quotes from their own experts in their faces and ask the tough questions, they refuse to answer.

religion is MAN-MADE, FAITH is DIVINE.

Dearest Armor of Christ 777

I feel you, my fellow DP Christian Patriot.

I do however, would like to ask you to pause, and objectively heed the intellectual dispositions of some of our non-judeo christian Ron Paul Constitutionalists. They CERTAINLY have worthy points. As these things go, there WILL NEVER be THE RIGHT answer. THIS is why we WANT, and SHOULD, and MUST want FREEDOM and Liberty FOR ALL. So that we may all independently pursue what we feel is the best way for each of us, at individual levels, to seek what is, or is not right. WITHOUT a govt dictate, NOR a private entity seeking to impose their will on us.

I doubt you'd want a anyone else to impose their own interpretation of Christianity on you, let alone other religions be it islam, b'hai, scientology, mansonry, etc.

And I shall close with a groundhog day: the self-evident FACT known to Sages, of ALL Ages: indeed, religion is MAN-made. However, FAITH? It is DIVINELY inspired.

I wish you find a path that is right for you. But heed that you don't seek to impose your own interpretation, but rather share your views. If it is sound, people of like mind will join you, naturally. Besides, wouldn't you rather have those type of friends, whom you acquired out of FREE WILL, rather than out of imposition, like the Inquisition?

I know deep down you know the right answer.

We all be CONSTITUTIONALISTS in this House of Worship. ,o)