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WeAreChangeAZ: Yes a man had an AR 15... get over it.
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Staged
The question is 'who benefits?'
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/the-secret-servic...
please.
Planned isn't the same as staged. They planned ahead and told the police they would be having the interview, very responsible of them. They had no obligation to but did anyways to ensure a peaceful demonstration. The author of that article appears to be off his rocker even by conspiracy theory standards. While the danger of a false flag does exist its not from Ernie Hancock or Freedom's Phoenix. And they are certainly not Obama's secret henchman to make the right look like crazies so he can pass his bill. Or in league with the SS as a way of telling obama to do what he's told or else. I mean wow.
It was planned & it fit well
It was planned & it fit well into Obama strategy to defend the right wing he needs on the healthcare issue.
naughty, naught
Sure
Obama's a brilliant opportunist, he tries to take advantage of every situation. Are you suggesting the primary goal was to promote obama from the outset or are you just noting that this demonstration did in fact score a few political points for him inadvertently. I'm not familiar with your posts enough to know where you're coming from yet. I highly doubt that these people are working for him, or anyone for that matter. Just average citizens. But really I have no idea, anyone that does know go ahead and set me straight if I'm off here. Or even better, how are we doing on the Fed? I feel way to distracted by this issue.
OK
I'll take your word that Ernie is for real and that this was a planned 2nd amendment statement. I wanted to see if anyone had any insight into the situation. It's understandable to have doubts. There have been many instances of provocateurs at protests so unless you personally know the folks involved, all you can do is question. Thanks
yeah he's for real
Im no authority on him mind you, so don't take my word for it, look him up watch some videos. He's got good stuff. Other wiser people here may know more about him but he's alright in my book and has done a lot to spread the message of liberty. Its always a good idea to keep a healthy suspicion and a level head even about well known leaders and personalities. Ask questions and verify. Nothing wrong with that.
willyloman is still on the subject... persistant little devil
Any opinions?
Was the man with the AR-15 at the Obama rally an agent provocateur? Looks that way.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/was-the-man-with-...
Why is AR-15 Guy’s Gun Secretly Strapped to his Pants Leg and his Back?
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/why-is-ar-15-guys...
Well I'm glad he had the rifle secured. Safety first you know. No one got poked in the eye.
I live in AZ and its
I live in AZ and its nice.
The person confronting the person with the AR15 seems very uneducated and I hope she understood the importance of carrying guns and the 2nd amendment.
The point of 'Just because you can do it, why do you do it?' could also be turned around to saying just because you have the freedom of speech why do you do it?
Great comeback
Great comeback response!!!
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
Few things I actually love
But I love my rights. I love my country. And I love patriotic people that dissent from what our big brother wants to shove down our throats.
I hate to pull race into this argument...but it makes me proud that our founders created a document that freed slaves, women and created equal rights for individuals. Im an American and so is that black dude. I will defend his liberty to defend himself, express his self, and exercise his rights. If the left is worried about people with weapons, stand behind them when shots are fired. But quit calling us un-American for having faith in an idea that created the wealth the world shares. I feel it is a duty to question authority. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism because it creates healthy debate over ideas that have consequences.
We dont hear that from the left on how the free market creates millionaires. Wealth is the enemy to the left. Our share should be more because we should give away our wealth Our rights are paramount to our economic recovery. Without respect for our liberty, we shall never recover from the brother that only takes from us under the guise of taking care of us.
Thomas Jefferson warned us about that. Im with him. Slave owner and writer of the Declaration that freed every man, woman and child. The average person is good. Government is the only cause of instability, monopoly and favoritism.
'Where do you find these angels in government?' Milton Friedman
Government is not eloquent, it is force.
G. Washington
'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul
You start off by saying that
You start off by saying that you love your country and yet you spend the rest of your time explaining just how evil it is. Could it be that the thing you think you love is just an idealized entity that never was and never will be?
I'm perplexed by some libertarians' love-hate relationship with the American state. I'd love to know one thing that makes you love this country and if it's that it has made people, at one point or another, marginally freer than those of other nations, I fail to see the virtue.
Sure more freedom is better, but if I'm not completely free, then I'm a slave to somebody. A kinder slave master may have more productive slaves, but that doesn't make him moral.
Hating overly powerful and
Hating overly powerful and corrupt central government and hating your country are two fantastically different things. I'm used to hearing this tossed by the libs and neocons, not our own. There is no "American state", there is a confederation of states consenting to a system which loosely binds them together in the interest of security and prosperity. That's not what it has become, which is obvious in the default position of many that America is an individual entity, which it never was and should not be regarded as such.
Your "country" is the
Your "country" is the invisible boundary as decided by your "corrupt central government". It doesn't actually exist. So how then does that make it any more of a moral entity?
As far as the platitude about "state consent" is concerned, I could care less. They can consent all they wish, it's my consent that matters. Like some bizarre case of Stockholm Syndrome you're trying to justify your love for the beast that oppresses you.
And who are these libs / neocons that seek the wholesale dismemberment of the US state? I'd love to meet them.
Tribute to the Patriot Weapon of Choice AR15
Tribute to the Patriot Weapon of Choice AR15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ye4QeD_BAc
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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
I'M GLAD MY GGG GRANDMOTHER DEFENDED HERSELF
and her children against those Indians. I would not be here if she didn't! Yes there is always two sides to any story and I'm not trying to hate on Indians.. But apparently they tried to set her cabin on fire before she started shooting. But the wood was still green and it didn't catch. That's when she poked holes through the mortar and started firing. My grandfather says when his father's father's father's father returned they couldn't believe she survived the attack.
My point in sharing that story was to contrast the difference of attitude in Americans. Today no one even KNOWS their rights let alone exercise them. If we lose our rights we as a nation have no one to blame but ourselves.
Ernie's FreedomsPhoenix.com & RP4409 (YouTube) AZ WeAreCHANGE...
are the shizni(t)z. RP4409 are one of the most aggressive, and successful freedom activists out there. The way it SHOULD be.
AWESOME. Now only if we can have a brigade sized number of aware citizens show up at EVERY TownHall, fully armed, locked and cocked (for all of us M1911 warhorses), to continue to demonstrate peacefully to the locals attending, as well as those watching via mainstream media what proper, responsible, law abiding citizen gunowner looks and behaves like.
I'm so glad Chris was able to shatter the CommieNews' propaganda of trying to frame the exercise of 2nd Amendment RIGHTS as some "crazy act of a disgruntled redneck, right wingnut." Along with heightened Southern Poverty Law Center's DHS-Fusion center propaganda, as the likes of Alex Jones have stated, I too smell a FED & MSM collusion, a media propaganda prep. for a leadup to another staid NWO tool of false flagging, like OKC. But they only get, ONE Waco, ONE OKC, and ONE 9/11. NO MORE, not EVER.
Reality is such that it sucks that ONLY a well dressed, well-spoken, intelligent black man doubting oBUSHma is the ONLY way to get through to many oBUSHmaBots, but SO GLAD and appreciative that he had the courage, to do so. Of course, let us not forget that at least recently, all this was kickstarted with Mr. Willaim Kostric, a Free Stater's show of bravery.
True Patriots, indeed. Bold, INFORMED, and UNafraid.
Love it !!!!
Earnest Hancock is the man. I cannot believe the hypocracy of the mainstream media. A disengenious interview, that is all the mainstream does. If it's not rehearsed, and approved by the commandant, then it's not allowed. That's fine, fight fire with fire I say, lets all take a page out of the mainstream propaganda brainwashing playbook and get us some liberty.
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
You almost have it.
Is it freedom if you need permission from the state?
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
"There was a time
when my skin made people nervous" Excellent!
I hope someone had the 'nads to open carry at Barney Frank's 'town hall' meeting http://www.dailypaul.com/node/103454 I could not make it, looking forward to the reports, that is if he didn't back out of it and reschedule a telephone meeting like a lot of the others have.
Excellent!
This man handled himself perfectly. If you own a gun and your state allows open carry, do it!
thanks for posting my vid,
thanks for posting my vid, Chris did such a great job!
Ernest on CNN about the issue today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfN7woo2xRY
Great Interview! Ernest Hancock Dominated that CNN Propagandist!
Wow, watch this interview to learn how to handle questions from the state controlled media!
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Where is the 2hour interview with Chris?
I think Ernest said it was on his freedomsphoenix site, but it's not easy to navigate and I don't find it, can someone help me out?
"never keynes a running system"
Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q
#DYI with Ernest Hancock
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/055752-2009-08-18-dec...
Thanks!
"never keynes a running system"
Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q
Loveolution
You got to love this word! Ernest Hancock rules.
"never keynes a running system"
Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q
Another little hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L40tNRFMT8&feature=related
Look how the media is whining. Oh, and "accidently", the microphone doesn't work when they interview the "scary" guy. And somehow they try to imply that a person that is against Obamas policy is more "dangerous", than other persons. What the hell?
"never keynes a running system"
Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q
I also loved the part where
I also loved the part where racism was not mentioned once. They did manage to skirt around this guy quite well though, and focus on this "other" guy with the EXACT same gun who mysteriously went un-photographed. I'll believe that when I see it. They just don't want to see or really address the issue of a black man standing up for his second amendment protected (not granted) rights. Sad, that makes them the REAL racists.
Also interesting how a ridiculously expensive saddle bag rig couldn't pick up this Patriot's voice, but the camcorder mono mike another Patriot was toting around picked him up crystal clear when he put down some obamadeath supporters. That poor guy was so edited out, that mike wouldn't cost over a grand if it didn't work because of a weak breeze.
Too bad that more people didn't show up similarly equipped.
Perhaps such an audience would have been interested in hearing why more debt has to be added to the backs of the taxpaupers in order to finance, not only expansion of the leviathan state in the healthcare arena, but to finance such wonderful job-creating projects as:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/17/turtles.vs.taxpayers/index....
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
THIS SHOULD BE A NEW TREND
Someone should start a group called patriotrifles.org or something and organize rallys in states which have open carry laws. Unfortunately here in Illinois only criminals and mayor Daily's body gaurds can carry guns. There are NO provisions for law abiding citizens to carry in Illinois, open carry or concealed carry.