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Individual Secession
Submitted by jruss133 on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:11
Why was the right to disassociate yourself from any State, at any time, from any location, not included in the constitution? Any ideas on what we can do now to secure this right? I think it would be the most direct way of limiting the State. » |
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The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.
Reminds me of an aspect of Infoquake
A futuristic novel.
Graduates from the hive choose which government they will contract with.
Anyway, the need to secede is upside down. The constitution is supposed to limit what the government can do. If you can't do it to a citizen, you can't do it to someone who individually seceded, because you simply don't have the power to do it. In a constitutional republic, anyway.
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Are you daft? How can a
Are you daft? How can a nation survive when its members can "secede" to avoid paying taxes?
Ventura 2012
I hope you are joking?!?
I hope you are joking?!?
No, I'm not. You can revoke
No, I'm not. You can revoke your citizenship and move elsewhere anyway. Why do you think the founding fathers did not allow for it?
Ventura 2012
The point is to not be
The point is to not be forced to move elsewhere if you revoke your citizenship. It could be argued that the broad goal of the American Revolution was to revoke citizenship without moving.
Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!
Thats a free rider problem
Thats a free rider problem if I ever heard one. Even anarchist communities would not allow a person not contractually bound to adhere to a communal code of conduct to live there.
Ventura 2012
Generally, personal/social
Generally, personal/social responsibility and justice will be present among communities regardless of any contract. In a way, the lack of a contract makes one more accountable to their neighbors.
Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!
Not when that responsibility
Not when that responsibility is tied into contractually obligated police and courts subscription services
Ventura 2012
Sorry, I must be dense.
Sorry, I must be dense. Could you clarify your point here?
Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!
You already can ...
It's called moving.
And if you are wealthy enough you can move to your own island.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Because we all must pay the Queen
Shut up and get back to work slave.
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Welcome to thinking like a voluntarist
And the short answer to your question is because you're a slave.
Sucks, don't it?
Yup.
And Jruss, you are definitely right that the Constitution should have allowed for individual secession. A great oversight (or maybe it was the result of a compromise) by the framers.
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