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Could It Be Just A Matter Of Faith?

I figure I will either get a lot of flack for this..or the topic will just be left alone to die..But..I have something I want to say..And if it isnt thought of as a good idea..if no one wants to even try this..Fine..But at least I can say..I tried.

First I will state I do not go to church anymore..I have my reasons..I am however a very strong believer in God and Jesus Christ.
I believe that this country..for the most part..has turned its back on God..and for others that believe..you know what happens when that is done...Its happening now.

After reading about then watching the school teachers in Fla.? who face losing everything because they prayed over their meal...I started wondering what would happen if believers just stood up all at once...stated the town hall meeting would be blessed...and all started saying...The Lords Prayer...(or any prayer)? Would the meeting go on? Would these people be thrown out? Tossed in jail maybe?

Then my thoughts took another step. What if people also did this at the start of every Tea Party..every protest....On the steps of Congress..the Senate...the Federal Reserve?

I believe that the few...the non believers..have been taking away our right to God..and in doing that..it is allowing them to take away our Constitution..Bill of Rights..everything we own...everything we hold dear.

Before (or if you even bother) to reply...I just ask one thing

Think about it.



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Just prayed

God said he couldn't run for president.

I would like

to thank you for that particular prayer....lol

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My view as a non-believer

I am an agnostic. In practice, maybe closer to an athesist, but I can't exclude the possibility that something as astonishing as the universe has a mindful creator behind it.

However, I'm not part of the ACLU sue-every-Christian-who-pokes-his-head-out-of-his-basement school of "freedom from religion". If a Christian says a prayer, sings a religious Christmas carol, or puts up a nativity scene it does me no harm at all. I really believe in freedom of religion, even for Christians.

So, peace.

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I have come to the conclusion that government is a religion.
The money is faith base.
The government will save us.
The politicans (I mean that as an insult) are the big money tv evangelist. What the gov. says people will follow, all they have to do is write a law.
If you are arrested you are guilty.
We get married in the gov. eyes(license).
We are forced into giving our tithes(taxes).
If it ain't on tv then it isn't happening.

I believe that the few...the non believers..have been taking away our right to God..

It's not the non believers, its the believers that have allowed it.

this gives new meaning to the phrase

God in Government. Great post.-
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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Excellent point. You are

Excellent point. You are very much correct that government is a religion. One of the senators recently said that while people can look to the church for a while in their troubles, eventually they realize that the only one who can save them is the government.

I don't want to be near them when God makes His rebuttal.

Lately, I find

myself mentally asking for guidance a LOT. It is like my dog that goes round and round to find that perfect spot to lay down. I want to be in balance with want is and what will come. So far, I'm not there yet.

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

These are troubling times, and I do too.

life by itself is just difficult.

What is interesting is to just read the book of Ecclesiastes as there are so many truths to how you likely feel in your heart about yourself, or about your circumstances.

I also don't attend church any longer. It makes me sad in many ways but I have not felt church is personal. Reading God's word and praying is personal. One thing I can tell you is that when I have been completely angry, prayer always softens my heart. Nothing else will. This is the power Christ can have in your life when you are a believer and have accepted him.

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I've been feeling that way, too.

I don't know what to believe anymore. There seems to be no true answer on either side. Where is the middle ground, where is the balance?

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

I think it would be a good idea.

The weapons of our warfare are not carnal. The Lord's Prayer is one such weapon. The Establishment would go nuts of course, ranting about the dangers of "Christian nationalism." That alone is reason enough to do it.

If you could get enough people in a crowd to do it, others would join in. If it really happened somewhere, I would consider that a sign that maybe we're not doomed after all.

People are after power

I think they'll use religion as leverage to gain control.
Either by taking it away like the Soviets, or forcing it on people, like the Taliban.
If people did what you suggest, at tea parties, would it just be Christians, or would it be people of all faiths?

While I have absolutely no problem with people believing in some sort of higher power. As an atheist, I'd hate to see the Liberty movement express a preference for any particular belief system.

Saying that, I'd LOVE to see a tea party even start with a whole series of blessings. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Wiccans. That would show human solidarity, that we are free enough to rise above our petty differences.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

I, personally,

would have NO problem with a series of blessings from various religious groups....
This is just my opinion: No matter what name we call him/her, we are all praying to the same God...

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Could you imagine that?

I wonder how something like that would play to the public?
A bunch of people, believing in so many different things, organized under one Ideal..Freedom. I think it would be awesome..

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

It gives me goose pimples

thinking about it, thinking just how "right" it is...

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Ron Paul 2012...and beyond
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Wasn't there once a group of

Wasn't there once a group of colonies who decided to form a confederation under just that Ideal?
As I recall, it was very successful, so much so that the people became complacent, they barely noticed when the fruits of their labor were stolen in 1913.

Absolutely!

That would be awesome and awe inspiring! Also, somewhat global, even nwo? I agree with you, we all pray to the same Source: we are all connected to that source and to each other -- we ARE one. Kind of global or nwo, isn't it?

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

I agree

great idea...we are all a human family striving to be free.

"Our planet is the mental institution for the universe."
-- Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
"Maybe this world is another planet's hell."
-- Aldous Huxley

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

since I was 15 I believe in reincarnation...

in one life you look at reality from one perspective...in another from another...does not matter because it is like looking at the sky above you using different windows(still the same sky you see).

all that really matters is love.

cyber hug send your way*))

"Our planet is the mental institution for the universe."
-- Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

I agree, it all hinges on perspective

and we all have our own, unique perspective, don't we!

I imagine that when God looks upon the many varied windows of our perspectives here on earth, He sees a multifaceted prism made up of all the varied panes of all of our existances; all coming together to form a perfect, glimmering jewel.

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

While you're at it

Please perform an exorcism on Hillary. She looks like she really needs it.

I AM is, the AUTHOR of

I AM is, the AUTHOR of freedom...But, we were taught to respect others at the same time ...You will know when to draw the line.
Good people ,do Good deeds
and are no respecter of person

Life is real only then, when

Life is real only then, when "I am".
~ G. I.Gurdjieff

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

I love your post!!!

The following is an excerpt from a site citing (lol) many people's near-death experiences:

... During Ned Dougherty's NDE, a Lady of Light told him how to change the world to prevent these catastrophic visions of the future from happening:

I was told that the world could be saved, not by its leaders, but by prayer groups throughout the world. I was told that the prayers of a group of twenty could save a nation from war. I was told that the fate of mankind rested on our ability, individually and collectively, to change the direction of mankind in accordance with God's plan ... Depending on mankind's response to God, these events may be altered, postponed, or cancelled. (Ned Dougherty)...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Imo, whether prayer group or mass meditation group, the effect is the same...

Near-death experiences site:
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research32.html

O.P.O.G.G. - Fighting the attempted devolution of the rEVOLution
Ron Paul 2012...and beyond
BAN ELECTRONIC VOTING!!

beautiful*))

prayer is a healing instrument that is of no cost...no Healthcare coverage needed here lol

"no married man is genuinely happy if he has to drink worse whisky than he used to drink when he was single."
-- H.L. Mencken

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

You two are definitely on a roll..

truth for truth!

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

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I'm an Atheist

I generally consider people of faith to be allies in my quest for Liberty. People of faith don't want anyone else telling them how to worship and most of them are generous enough to grant the same rights to others.

People of faith also realize that religion is a matter of choice and any attempts to create a false homogeneity among a population dilutes the faith of the congregation.

More often than not, it is people who use religious rhetoric who take our freedoms, not the other way around. I'm not talking about the Soviets -- they are living in a completely different world where the populace actually embraces tyranny.

This is America. Live free or die.

You called ? "Our

You called ?

"Our relationship to the United States ( CORPORATE ) government is much like the one I have with my wife. It is a very common thing when I find out we're not "on the same page". Occasionally, I wonder if we're in the same book. And sometimes, I have to wonder if she's even on the same planet as I am." -- Me