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I am Mad as Hell - We Can Win Without Media, Candidates, Rallies Etc!

I am mad as hell and here is why!

There is a sure way to win this fight if those who claim to be freedom fighters would stop being cowards and would step up!

If 15% (perhaps less) would stand up to them using the law it would collapse their fraudulent system! Did you hear me???

Every time one of these sovereignty threads gets posted a number of negative responses come up. Now I expect that but what makes me mad is the outright cowardice exhibited by so many here who claim to be freedom fighters when they do it.

One of the most often heard statements is; well show me the proof!. Do you you think the people who have gone into court and used these lawful arguments had direct verifiable proof when they went in there? No very few of them ever did, they had to muster the courage to do it and sometimes went to jail if they didn't get it right or just outright had their rights violated and the law ignored. If you want freedom without risk you want what never was and never will be!

I would like some direct proof also on some of these cases too but I can't be everywhere at once so all I can do is hear their story over the net and research the law concerning it. I have researched the law and history enough to know there is a great deal of truth to all of it!

Yeah well so what you say they just ignore it all and throw you in jail or fine you or both. SO WHAT SHOULD YOU STOP FIGHTING BECAUSE YOU MIGHT LOOSE SOME OF THE BATTLES! Goddamit quit being cowards and stand up and be free Americans!!! They do it because we let them. If just 15 percent of people (perhaps even less ) would stand up to them in this manner their whole fraudulent system would collapse!

If you refuse to stand up to them lawfully when they exercise their color of law fraudulent jurisdiction over you and claim to be fighting for freedom then you need to pick up your gun and remove them by force immediately or your nothing but a coward! What that you say your not ready to do that? Good then start fighting peacefully by knowing your rights and the law and how they tricked you into believing they had jurisdiction over you when they do not! If enough of us did this properly we could actually have a peaceful orderly transition back to a free society!

I hate going to court and I don't want to go to jail either just like you, but I am sick of their criminal actions against me and all of us and I am not going to take it anymore!!! Stop worrying about what others might think of you and learn your rights and what the actual laws are as opposed to what they perpetrate on you, and learn to defend yourself using them!!! It is our las peaceful means of resistance to their tyranny!!!

To the people who say it's hogwash you are the worst cowards of all! Study the law and you will see it's not hogwash just because some fake judge or authority figure ignores it and violates your rights... These people have no standing in law at all they do it out of ignorance mostly but some out of spite and they know exactly what they are doing.

Why in the world would you choose to let the tyranny continue because they have the upper hand now? The reason they have it is because those who claim to be fighting for freedom have allowed them to and fear standing up to them. Good thing the founders did not back off when they were going up against the most powerful army on the planet and no one including themselves thought they had a hope in hell. But to many cowards here can't take the time to do some reading and research to fight for their God given rights!

I'll say it again if just 15% of people would learn their rights under the law and stand up to these bastards their whole system would collapse! We don't need no media campaigns no elections no lying politicians nothing but courage and knowledge and a willingness to use that knowledge!



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I think human nature is always

waiting for someone to test the water to see if it is safe to venture in, or for someone to push them in. That is why there will always be leaders the flock has to have someone steer them and that is why we might be toast.
Thanks, for your insight do you think people would even have time to go through the process if this flu thing is real?

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

Baby elephants turn into

big elephants with a string around their leg.

I get the feeling that people think you are doing something wrong if you want to remove the string.

A question....What is the purpose of court?

Thanks and a bump, Hawkiye.

In Liberty.

So what are YOU going to do?


Whatever it may be, good luck.

Your answer says you prefer

Your answer says you prefer the status quo. If you want your freedom the question is: "what are "YOU" going to do?

Why do so many people think it's up to someone else to win thier freedom?

I am already doing all I can to secure my rights lawfully and educate others. What are you doing?

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End The Fat
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Start the education

All those tickets people get...start teaching them to fight back..and win..stop that part of the court system...and watch what happens...it will be amazing

Freedom is another way to God...A corrupt government is a straight way to hell.

I believe in Hope & Change..I Hope the government will Change
Spindale-Rutherford County-North Carolina

Exactly! Only about 5% of

Exactly! Only about 5% of people plead not guilty in traffic court. if 15% would plead "innocent" and not guilty or not-guilty they would have to dismiss 90% of the cases for lack of a speedy trial. That would bring it to a halt!

People are afraid yet claim they want thier freedom. yet they are unwilling to fight for it. They want it given to them without any risk.

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

If only 5%

plead "not guilty" in traffic court, maybe it's because only 5% are actually Not Guilty. I've personally never plead "not guilty" because I've never been charged for something I didn't do! Have you?

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

Even I don't believe you are

Even I don't believe you are that ignorant.

Statutes are not laws. They are just revenue generators.

Morpheus was right many do not want to be unplugged from the matrix and will even fight to defend it... Sigh

Do you like being told you have to wear a set belt or pay for the privilege of traveling or pulled over and tased at the whim of some cop?

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

I am not ignorant..

I just CHOOSE my battles - and no, I don't mind wearing a seat belt or staying within (most) posted speed limits because these laws' purpose is to protect us from those citizens (like you?) who would risk their own safety, as well as my safety and the safety of my friends and family members who share the roadways with them.

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It is good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. It is a fatal mistake not to recognize those who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American people.
~ Sherman H. Skolnick

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

I am not a "citizen" and you

I am not a "citizen" and you don't need protection from me. I am a sovereign who believes in respecting the rights of others and in not harming others. Set belts was just a simple example most can relate to, however they protect no one and no one has the right to force me to use them. Please explain to us how my not wearing a set belt harms anyone else?

You sound happy with your slavery to the corporation so just ignore this thread but quit trying to tell me I need to be a slave like you or that you or anyone else has the right to force me to be a slave like you.

Thanks for your perspective.

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

I understand where you're coming from

But, I decided when I first got involved with this Liberty movement that I would pick my battles wisely.
What you're telling people to do is honorable, but it's a Big Corporate/Government run machine. The gears of that machine are NOT running on our brand of oil. It lubricated with big money, special interests, and others in positions of power who have no interest in your sovereignty quest. Other than making it impossible for you to achieve. Look at the wall of paperwork that exists, just so you can say you are free.
I prefer to eliminate the paperwork, one sheet at a time. Freedom should not require paperwork, and by following the paper trail they've created,
you are acknowledging it's validity.

Rather than taking on that big machine head-on, like you suggest.
I've decided to go after the parts, the oil, and what fuels that big machine.
We've got to own major parts of that machine, get people elected, get the media on our side. Or even create our own media outlets, like many have already done. Talk to individuals one-on-one (which is what I am best at).

I don't wish to stop your pursuit, but at this point in time, I don't think you have many friends inside the bureaucracy. you'll do none of us any good from a jail cell.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

So are you saying because it

So are you saying because it takes effort we should let them continue to rape us? Because of the paper work would should shrink from the fight?

Your freedom documents can be filled out in couple days and all filed and agencies noticed within a month. It's not that hard and a small price to pay.

Getting elected to the corporation will change nothing it's like getting elected to the Mafia to try and stop them from robbing and murdering people. They own the media. If we haven't learned that from the Ron Paul Campaign then we haven't learned anything.

They think they own you and treat you accordingly. The paper work lets them know on the record they do not own you, and gives you lawful recourse. They will try to intimidate you to re contract with them but you must know who you are and defend yourself.

There is nothing wrong with being afraid, I am afraid also of thier power I don"t want to end up in jail either. But I refuse to let my fear rule may actions any longer and will stand up to the bastards and tell them I am not thier property I am a free sovereign American!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

Amen hawkiye

Im sorry I know it wasn't a prayer but it should of been!

"Free men are not equal"

Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....

Amen brother.

I reserve the right to govern myself.

I reserve the right to govern myself.