When will we see the dollar crash? DXY 75? 70?
UPDATE: I thought I'd update the title as some seemed to think I was poking a finger at those who predicted the demise of the mighty FRN. Quite the opposite, I'm looking to find out at what point the dollar is actually considered 'crashed'?
It was rumored over that last few weeks that the dollar was suffering and would most likely crash soon...possibly even as early as this week.
Where are we in relation to that becoming a reality? I know there are naysayers who believe this squeeze is actually good for the dollar bubble but in my estimation, bubbles always pop.
What will it take to pop this bubble and what are the consequences of a dollar 'crash' in this depressed economy?
What will this do to prices and gold and the holiday shopping season?
My feeling is this will come closer to winter and crush retailers forcing many into chapter 11 and driving unemployment into the 20% region.
I could be wrong... I hope I am. If not, be ready.





















Ron Paul said that we are
Ron Paul said that we are already in the 20% region for unemployment..
Shadow stats verifies that as well. Mark Faber says he expects the dollar to strengthen over the next few months. So we could have the same situation this fall/winter like we had last year... the dollar could strengthen.. If that happens Gold and silver should fall. I am hoping this is the case because I will be ready to purchase around Christmas time.. But who knows.... things could go the exact opposite this time.. what will crash the dollar is when the foreigners decide they do not want or mass printed FRN's..
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
The value would have to
The value would have to reach, zero....Remember it is private funds..OK
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Who Among Us Can Predict The Future With Accuracy?
I can only think of 2 occupations that have been better at predicting the future than they were 50 years go;
Hurricane forecasters and,,,
Obstetricians. { Baby doctors}
They're better at predicting the future because of technology that wasn't available 50 years ago.
I have met a famous Obstetrician and for over 30 years he has been a solid Gold Bug. So, I'm sticking to his long term predictions and holding on to Gold!
Oh yes, his name is Ron Paul !
{ snip } The U.S. dollar's value is tied to these currencies:
US Dollar Index (USD)
The U.S. Dollar Index® is computed using a trade-weighted geometric average of six currencies. The six currencies and their trade weights are:
Euro 57.6 %
Japan/yen 13.6 %
UK/pound 11.9 %
Canada/dollar 9.1 %
Sweden/krona 4.2 %
Switzerland/franc 3.6 %
These contract specifications are subject to change. Please consult the FINEX if you have any questions.{ end snip }
These currencies are supposed to get their value by how stable the country issuing the currency's total economic outlook is and by supply and demand factors from FOREX traders and other central bankers.
Unfortunately, the U.S. began backing a large portion of their dollars with the U.S. dollar value of real estate. When the real estate lost value because of faulty loans the U.S. dollar should have crashed. But it only went down to about 70 on the FOREX exchange and for the last several months the value has been propped up apparently by TARP money buying more stable assets. {??}
In my opinion, Gold is the most stable of all assets and if a central bank such as Zimbabwe starts to make their currency redeemable in Gold,,,watch out,, because once this currency produces a certain amount of stability for Zimbabwe, other central banks may follow suit and a rush out of dollars could cause the U.S. dollar to lose much more value than it already has. { estimated 96% since 1913 }
Get rich quick schemes are nothing but a gamble, in my opinion, and if I want to gamble I'll go to Reno, thank you.
beesting
DXY was already sub 75 and
DXY was already sub 75 and even hit in 70.something in early 2008 ... you will see it resume downtrend .. it is already doing so ... remember it was at 71/70 before all these companies started failing and the bailouts started lol
imagine what will happen once those trillions of inflation hit the market lol ... *1942 dive bomber sound* sschwwoooom ... bye bye dollar say hello to 35 30
We are already starting to see profit taking in the foreign mark
I don't expect the dollar fall any time soon. With a little study it is easy to understand that what is happening is foreign collaborative central banks are buying up dollars and depositing them at the IMF in exchange for SDR's. This removes FRNs from circulation maintaining demand for FRNs on the market. This is being done to create a new world currency. SDR's are the wave of the future. There is no Amero on the horizon. The FRN is going to be replaced, the Federal Reserve is going to fall, and then of course all those working for the Federal Reserve will be hired to work at the IMF, since they are highly qualified and only with their expertise can it work.
grant
The crash will happen after many swine flu deaths
They have to cull the masses, before a banking collapse happens.
Think about the logistics for a moment !
The dollar almost slipped below 70 over a year a go, when Henry Paulson and the plunge protection team stepped in.
The dollar index is not reflective of real numbers ever since that time.
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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon
Remember, "the dollar" is
Remember, "the dollar" is measured against a basket of other fiat currencies. If that other paper is even weaker than Federal Reserve notes, "the dollar" will rise.
A far better measure of FRN strength is the price of gold.
But "the dollar" is not doing so hot of late. It's dropped from around 90 to around 78 over the last few months.
Why is China's stock market imploding?
I don't understand why China's stock market and economy is imploding right now.
I thought that they, unlike the U.S., were mostly debt free and had a real manufacturing base. I thought that they were buying up gold and selling off U.S. Dollars (monetarily sound). I thought that they, unlike the U.S., were not wasting away their money on Wars and Foreign Occupations and Bank bailouts. I thought that they were in position to be the #1 economic engine because of those relative strengths. I figured their economy would now be in a very strong position.
So why is their stock market sinking like a stone?
Why do they have major economic problems right now?
I don't get it....
Anyone?
their economy is not
their economy is not imploding... they still are at a 6-8% growth rate.. we in the US would love to have that growth rate.. that would be boom times here.. just because the stock market is going down does not mean tough times or an economy imploding.. now look at our stock market.. just because we have come back 50% from the highes does not mean we are out of our recession.. actually the economy is worse even tho the stock mark has been going up.. we are still seeing over 500,000 people losing jobs..
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Investment shares from
Investment shares from foreign funds are down. And there is such a thing as consummer purchase pool..Right now consuming power means more
than, investment power.They need us as much as we need their funds.
Good people do Good deeds
and are no respecter of person
Profit
Taking.
"Obamney care," Nuff said.
I think they posess too much of our debt and dollars...
...not to be adversely effected.
If they sell off too much, then they cause a global meltdown as everyone flees the dollar... If they don't sell enough, then they go slowly down the tubes with the rest of us.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
1) A big part of their
1) A big part of their economy is making trinkets for Americans and Europeans. The commies are not Henry Fords. Not yet anyway. (Google "Ford five dollar day.")
2) A big part of their stock market is an energy company. The commies put a cap on what it can sell its products for. The price of crude has gone from $35 a bbl to over $70, but the cap on gasoline has not kept up.
3)The market had gone way up.
just because a couple
people on this site give their opinion of "when" the dollar will collapse does not mean the dollar won't collapse.
The Austrian Economic model predicts an inevitable collapse. The Kensian's in power have used all their power and all of our resources to slow the collapse. That does not mean it won't happen.
I agree... they are walking
I agree... they are walking over the edge of the plank.. at some time the dollar dies.
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Dollar still trading down around the 78 mark...
It can't pull itself up, it seems.
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DXY/charts
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I've fallen, and I can't get
I've fallen, and I can't get up!
Read What Roger Wiegand Predicts:
Doom and Gloom!
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Wieg_cor/roger_aug272009.html
beesting
Not surprised the Kitco folks are pushing metals....
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Conflicting views
Robert Prechter, from Elliottwave, says that the dollar will stay steady for another year or two. The guy at Everbank.com says the dollar is ready to topple and investing in foreign currencies is the way to go.
Certainly the U.S. is on shaky financial footings. So far 81 banks have closed, and there will probably be more. We are seeing the slow, steady, disintegration of our nation and it's financial security.
But nobody knows what's around the corner.
and if it is a slow
and if it is a slow degredation, that gives each of us more time to prepare ourselves and families.. be thankfull for any extra time..
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Agreed.
The real issue we face is when, because the longer it takes to get here, the worse it's going to be.
:(
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Well, if I'm remembering
Well, if I'm remembering correctly, black Friday got its name due to that being around the time where many/most retailers got out of the red and became profitable for the year. So that means 1 month is basically responsible for many of our retailers even having profits at all. I wonder if this year main retailers will still be operating in the red far beyond black Friday...
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Deflation is the name of the game right now.
After the bankers are done looting the world of it's wealth, the dollar will sink like a stone. They are all paid in dollars, so they will make sure to prop up the dollar until they are through using it.
Once it breaks DXY 72
Once it breaks thru the DXY 72 support from last summer, its going to go down and go down FAST. thatll be the tipping point for the rush out of the dollar. so keep an eye on the DXY or follow my posts. sign up for the feeds, i post about the dollar almost daily
Todays Dollar post (Fell off the 78 cliff)
http://cfecon.blogspot.com/2009/08/and-dollar-finally-falls-...
Jim Sinclair says once the
Jim Sinclair says once the dollar breaks .70 then it will stop at .52..
jsmineset.com
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Wow...so I guess the predictions weren't too far off...
So, what happens when it dips past 72?
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Dollar Over Shorted
I heard this from a talking head...
Apparently everyone is so down on the dollar right now that it is over shorted. So even if the dollar is destined down in the long term it looks like a bunch of short sellers will temporarily push up the dollar so that they can cover becase the dollar has not fallen as fast as they expected.
The banks can not force feed
The banks can not force feed a system that does not want what they offer...There is no market for FRNs ..This is what is keeping down inflation....This is driving the economy to correct itself.
Good people do Good deeds
and are no respecter of person
hi
Fortune Favors the Bold
I think this is very hard to predict. Your question reminded me of a book i read called "Against Empire." The thing is, humans seem to organize economically in such a way that there is always a small group or individual at the top who gets the lion's share of the resources. I think this happens for basically the same reason people prefer monopoly governments (as oppossed to competing governments). It creates order.
Think about it. In a primitive medieval type society, the king is like the gold standard. Anything that the king values, will also have value in the eyes of others, because the king will always be able to pay.
I think it is this phenomenon, and fear of the alernative, that maintains the world financial order.
Fortune Favors the Bold