Health Care Bill is Unconstitutional: Bachmann says so!
Submitted by betty on Sat, 08/29/2009 - 21:41
Hear, Hear! Rep. Bachmann had the testicular courage to say the truth: nowhere within the Constitution does is allow for Congress to have the power to promote this bill. Here's the link:
http://www.minnpost.com/ericblack/2009/08/25/11101/bachmann_...
I have asked Congressman McDermott the question regarding where in the Constitution it allows for this bill and got a form letter back! It is time we demand an answer to this question from our reps and force the issue!
Please pass out fliers regarding this issue at the town hall meetings -spread the word!
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Regardless of whether we told her or not, etc., etc.,
it doesn't really matter, what matters is the fact that this as well as many other bills are unconstitutional and we need to educate ourselves fully on Art. 1, section 8 of the Constitution, which spells out the limited, specific duties of each and every rep. Start educating yourselves and others to stop this tyranny!
betty
Any one of us could have told here that, in fact, one of us
probably did
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While I do like Bachman, where was she and the other
Republicans when the congress and GWB were pushing unconstitutional measures? The constitution has been ignored for many years and I'm afraid that most of the republican opposition is just because a dem is in office. I hope the awakening is genuine and not party driven.
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
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"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
-Alexis de Tocqueville
She was in the Minnesota State gov't.
She only took office in Jan 2007 in Congress.
Thanks..
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
-Alexis de Tocqueville
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
-Alexis de Tocqueville
I'm glad that she made such a determination. I hope that
her concern for constitutionality will continue, both with respect to proposed legislation as well as current "laws".
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I seem to remember her no vote to Liberty on many
bills in the house, didn’t she vote for the patriot act, protect america act, military commissions act, the wars!
She needs to be voted out of office!
Nice try.
She wasn't even in Congress when the Patriot Act went thru.
She voted for Protect America Act which ONLY authorized wiretapping for those OUTSIDE the US, and in 2008 she voted AGAINST an extension of that act.
She wasn't in Congress when the Military Commissions Act went thru either.
Nor was she in Congress when the wars passed.
In fact, she has been attacked for speaking out loudly against the Patriot Act, and the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA extension.
Perhaps this lady isn't perfect.
She's alot better than 99% of the rest.
It sounds to me like you have an axe to grind against her, but have no valid point to make from actual fact.
Your "memory" sucks.
Your Right…I thought that she was a he and at work didn’t have
time to look it at work.
My Bad, cool points have been lost by me.
She's learning.
She's a work in progress, and she is trying to learn from Ron Paul.
Yes, she's made some mistakes, and doesn't know all she needs to know yet.
She continues to be wrong on some issues.
But, she is trying to get there.
So, while I still don't agree with everything she does, she's really making some strides in our direction, and I think this is good and I try to be supportive when I can.
didn't she just vote for the food safety act - a few weeks ago
" Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of they day; but a series of oppresssions...pursued unalterably, through every change of ministers, too plainly proove delibrate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery..."
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" Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of they day; but a series of oppresssions...pursued unalterably, through every change of ministers, too plainly proove delibrate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery..."
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Yes, she did.
I didn't like that vote.
So, throw the baby out with the bathwater, right?
Just because she's mentoring under Ron Paul, and learning what she needs to know doesn't matter?
Just throw her under the bus because she's not perfect?
How many vote perfect?
Wow is this true???
I'll have to research this.
Time to start faxing again!
No compromise on 1207 to B. Frank.
No to Obamacare to everyone else.
In Liberty.
Bumping again!
Please watch the very most important point in this whole debate!
betty
Triple Bump!
Every rep should be answerable to Bachmann's message! Call your rep today and demand an answer - where does it say in the Constitution that they have ANY right to enact this bill?!
betty
Bumping for the Constitution!
Check this out!
betty
I'm bumping this because it is that important
this is the archilles heel of not only the health bill but many others as well!
betty
this article is more quackary
the author supposes that because some unconstitutional laws have already been written, then all future unconstitutional laws are bulletproof.
he cites the "general welfare" clause as evidence.
you know.
the clause that is always cited out of context any time totalitarians wish to circumvent the rest of the Constitution.
here it is:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States"
If the framers
"If the framers of our Constitution, who labored so resolutely in Philadelphia that torridly hot summer in 1787 intended the powers of Congress to have no boundaries, why did they bother to enumerate seventeen?"
I'm bumping this again because if we don't get concerned
about this point, we may all end up with government run healthcare and that is beginning to sound like NAZI GERMANY folks! It is time to DEMAND an ANSWER from our congressional reps on where in the Constitution does it address their ability to promote this act!
betty
What Bachman is really saying:
"Nobody has made me a good enough offer in exchange for voting yes yet. Somebody please make me an offer, my votes are always for sale."
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i know i'll be slammed
for having watched fox, but
o riley said it too.
yet undeclared war is ok.
hard to make a case when the constitution is only respected when it's convenient.
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
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They are trying to derail the movement by having these NeoCons
Jump on the band wagon so the left can then point and say “Look Ron Paul and This Lady whom I owe an apology too are in the same camp as O’riley!
Very good point.
Very good point.
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right
torture and warrantless spying is to be slammed, but now oriley suddenly is a defender of the Constitution.
We the People...
Healthcare is discussed nowhere in the Constitution by which our nation is supposedly governed. Many have made the point that the General Welfare Clause or the Commerce Clause can be tortured into any meaning a politician would make of them, but this is obviously not the case. If "general welfare" were meant to be a catch-all phrase for giving dictatorial powers to the federal government, then the Tenth Amendment would never have been written:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Furthermore, government collection of the medical records of individuals clearly violates our Fourth Amendment rights:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Any politician who has honestly sworn to uphold the Constitution can vote only one way on Obamacare. Recall the words of Justice Brandeis:
"The makers of our Constitution undertook to secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness. They recognized the significance of man's spiritual nature, of his feelings and of his intellect. They knew that only a part of the pain, pleasure and satisfactions of life are to be found in material things. They sought to protect Americans in their beliefs, their thoughts, their emotions and their sensations. They conferred, as against the Government, the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized man."
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Aren't you referring to the
Aren't you referring to the preamble to the Constitution? As far as I know, that is not a clause of the Constitution but rather just a brief description of it.
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Yes, it's in the preamble,
Yes, it's in the preamble, but other folks have used the phrase "general welfare clause" and that phrase fits more easily into a sentence than the awkward construction "the injunction for the federal government to provide for the general welfare in the preamble of the Constitution."
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Proponents of Obamacare will
Proponents of Obamacare will argue that there are many precedents for government involvement in health and medicine, e.g. Medicare, Medicaid etc.
Only when enough citizens agree that we should adhere to the tenets and limited powers of the Constitution will we be free.
After all the Constitution also states that only gold and silver coin will be legal tender. One more stimulus infusion of paper currency and the US dollar will go the way of the Zimbabwe dollar.
Consider just what one of the heroes in Atlas Shrugged gives to another in the dark of night. Hint: it was not a pile of cash!
"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731
"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731