ACLU Lobbyist Larry Frankel Found Dead in Washington ,ACLU used Freedom of Information Act to uncover Torture scandal
http://youngphillypolitics.com/aclu_lobbyist_larry_frankel_f... Lobbyist Larry Frankel Found Dead in Washington
Submitted by RepMarkBCohen on Fri, 08/28/2009 - 10:20pm. ACLU Larry Frankel
Longtime Pennsylvania ACLU lobbyist and Executive Director Larry Frankel, who in the last year or so has become the lobbyist for the national ACLU, has apparently been found dead in Washington under mysterious circumstances. Larry was 54. This is a breaking news story in which most key facts are still generally unknown.
Frankel was an outstanding lobbyist for the Pennsylvania ACLU in Harrisburg, taking positions on scores to hundreds of bills each year. He was a coalition builder reminiscent of Ted Kennedy in the U.S. Senate or William Brennan on the U.S. Supreme Court, who agressively reached out to unlikely allies like the National Rifle Association to help persuade members of the legislature that the ACLU was addressing broad concerns.
His aggressive outreach removed the ACLU from the fringes or margins of state policy and moved it toward the center of direct involvement.
A proud gay man, he was militant on the issue of gay marriage, believing that it was far more important to keep the legal option of gay marriage by defeating a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage than to enact civil unions legislation, an uphill battle that some, including myself, thought was winnable. His views on gay marriage were somewhat vindicated when four New England states and the state of Iowa legalized gay marriage this year.
Larry believed in the importance of facts in making decisions. His correspondence with legislators was full of facts. While his extraordinary depth of knowledge of public policy occassionally made him seem arrogant, I always found him deeply respectful to those whom he had not yet convinced.
He made progress on hard issues, such as the death penalty and mandatory minimum sentences, by documenting their high fiscal costs. He was often a lone legislative voice in debating with the District Attorneys Association, which frequently sought changes in law to reverse unfavorable court rulings.
He was a strong voice on freedom of choice, equal rights for women, and freedom of speech. He recognized he was the under the handicap of working for an organization whose members were generally not politically active, and whose views were not politically popular. But he was tenacious, factual, honest, and decent, and he earned the deep respect of virtually all with whom he came into contact.
He will be deeply missed by his many friends in Philadelphia and Harrisburg, as well as in Washington. He was one of the finest human beings to serve as a lobbyist, and his daily work honored the lobbying profession, as well as the ACLU and the gay community.
Among those who survive his death are his former partner of many years, attorney and former chancellor of the Philadelphia Bar Andrew Chirls.





















This just in....
Frankel's death has been ruled a suicide. He apparently, shot himself 8 times in the back.
Couldn't help that...
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Perhaps with this loss by
Perhaps with this loss by the liberal activist side of Constitutionalist the fate of Vince Foster will take on greater meaning.
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
I think you are spot on with
I think you are spot on with everything you said except the last paragraph: "He was one of the finest human beings to serve as a lobbyist, and his daily work honored the lobbying profession, as well as the ACLU and the gay community."
Thats like saying when Ted Kennedy wasn't busy screwing the public, he was a good man. is there such a thing as a "Good Lobbyist" So your telling me there is a "Good Devil"??
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Hey what do you do for a living or your fellow man?
You don't understand the role of lobbyists. Without lobbyists you have legislators passing dumb laws for dumb reasons..."this happened to my golfing buddy so I will pass a law..."
90% of what lobbyists do is kill bad legislation.
You should thank the next lobbyist you meet for keeping hundred of thousands of bad ideas from becoming law.
What do you do for a living? I will bet you dollars to donuts some lobbyist is saving your ass right now and you don't even know it. But your arm chair prejudice makes you feel good...so whatever. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
I beg to differ
The lobbyist goalpost falls into one of two primary categories; protecting their client's interest from legislation intented to serve the common good, or positioning their client in order to gain financial reward through the contracting and disbursement process.
Labeling halted legislation as bad is an exercise in conjecture. If it never made it into law how can one positively gauge it's potential effect, both short and long term?
"People in industry are willing to invest money because they see opportunities here," said Patrick J. Griffin, who was President Bill Clinton's top lobbyist and is now in private practice. "They see that they can win things, that there's something to be gained. Washington has become a profit center."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06...
Words to the wise;
Always follow the money.
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
Not all
lobbying is bad...
For instance, I am certainly glad that organic producers work their butts off to keep organics truly organic...and fight those who attempt to pass off junk as organic...
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Bump...
The torture issue had been a major one for the ACLU, and they worked very hard to persuade the Obama administration to open an investigation of torture as it was being used under George Bush. Tragic...a life lost even as they recently won this victory.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.
CIA and Obama have a turf war going... smart $$ is on the CIA!
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.
The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.
God rest
his soul.
Defend Liberty!
Any more links to the
Any more links to the circumstances surrounding his death?
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799