RED ALERT! Madsen: CIA hired Blackwater to pose as journalists, & INFILTRATED 2008 Ron Paul Pres.Campaign! NOT A JOKE!

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This is HUGE, and truly alarming: CIA hired Blackwater to pose as journalists to INFILTRATE Ron Paul campaign during 2008!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCa5QTr81gI
http://russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-08-31/cia-blackwater-jo...

If Wayne Madsen's past record is of any indication, this MUST be taken seriously.

We need REAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.

1. CIA ILLEGALLY hired BlackWater to do a run around their foreign intelligence-only mandate. Intent is obvious.

2. Put lives of Dr. Paul and Mike Gravel in danger by having non-vetted armed individuals illegally spying on their campaign, within their campaign via infiltration.

This is COINTEL of the highest order. I would not be surprised if that were CIA's plan to use Blackwater to be always two steps away from assassinating any of the rising 3rd party candidates, if they thought they were getting "out of line."

This is one of the MOST explosive news to come out in years. We MUST be vigilant of similar attempt at infiltration and provocateuring in ANY of our upcoming Liberty/FREEDOM Candidates' future campaigns be they Kokesh, Schiff, R.J.Harris, Rand, or Dr.Paul's possible 2012 run.

Let it be known on NO UNCERTAIN terms that Blackwater IS a CIA front. They are NOT a "private" firm outsourced to do the gvt's bidding. Blackwater's board of director is FULL of current and past CIA spooks. For all intent and purposes, it IS gvt. Blackwater IS a CIA black op. They exist for the sole purpose of skirting their Constitutionally stipulated limitations, and to PROFIT off of what they would normally do at the unCONSTITUTIONAL gvt agency, aka, CIA, for a mere salaried "meager" living.

But, as far as these things go, there MUST be a reason WHY Blackwater and Erik Prince are now suddenly being thrown under the bus. CIA and Bush Crime Familia are obviously trying to cover their asses and "close all accounts" so to speak.

WE MUST HAVE A FULL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, along with all of Blackwater and CIA's other involvement in torture, renditions, secret and indefinite detentions, deathsquads, pedophilia, child and adult prostitution rings, murder and coverups, etc. This MUST be done.

This SHOULD also give ACLU's current lawsuits more ammo as well.

Stay VIGILANT folks. They are getting desperate. Rancid stench of gvt. agent provocateurs are EVERYWHERE.

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And CFL (Campaign for Liberty's) response to this? RPs response

For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E.

to this?

For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E.

And CFL (Campaign for Liberty's) response to this? RPs response

For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E.

to this?

For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E.

well

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I don't know about the truth of this particular allegation, but it certainy wouldn't surprise me. It would me more surprising if there was no infiltration. This has been going on a very long time, as people below have referenced, and the operations of COINTELPRO in the 60s are well documented.

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I'm guessing would agree with the thesis of this thread.

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

interesting and bookmarked

interesting and bookmarked for laterz.

thanks for sharing.

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Wayne Madsen is a very credible source

He's ex navy intelligence and has great sources inside the Beltway. I've subscribed to his reports for a long time now. Wayne Madsen Report. You can pretty much take to the bank what he reports.

Hey Feebs, would you be as kind as to...

keep us updated on the latest, on this matter, from Madsen's subscriber section news? I used to read his report all the time as well, until he went subscription only. Then stuck on headlines and old news, though, even those are much more informative than what one would find on any MSM or "alt.media" sites.

It'd be much appreciated. Thank you.

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Russia, Russia...

Man, who owns RT? Well, the answer according to wiki is,
"sponsored by the state owned Russian news agency RIA-Novosti."

Nothing against it, just know what you are watching. I happen to think
it was better when you had journalists talking about the "natural manly mildness of Philip Morris." At least you knew upfront that they were pushing something! Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLZkwDkxYrY

Here is the wiki on RT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

I'm not saying not to watch RT. They obviously have other reasons to be critical of US policy. What a fascinating time to be alive!

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Why should I mistrust RT or

Why should I mistrust RT or any other foreign media in comparison to state-controlled US media? Since the state has been co-opted from serving the people to serving the interest of trans-national financial institutions I view corporate-owned mass media as an instrument of the state.

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson, 1799

But, here is one person whom we should be wary of...

one Dana Goldstein:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-08-30/re...

look at the link title vs. the article's own headline.

The term without "tessa" in Contessa, comes to mind, when thinking of a word to describe this disingenuous scribe...

Agreed.

Informed readers read between the lines and multiple sources.

Former Soviet emigres I've met and known had no illusions about what Pravda was. Unfortunately for many dittohead GOP and neoCONs, FakeNewsNet watchers during bush regime actually accepted it as the truth, at face value. So what does that say about us, when those who live under blatant tyranny know what the truth, better than a culture with the most access to all available info? As Goethe said so poignantly, "None are so enslaved as those whom delude that they are free."

Like anything in life, one develops a proper skill for proper discernment of info, based on their intellect and type and extent of life experience. Like meeting and making friends, it's a risk everyone consciously makes, when one decides to live: one entangles with people, info, and influence that did not originate out of one's own self.

As such, while a politician, Ron Paul's voting records and near 30yrs of public service in which his actions have PROVEN to be that of a public SERVANT, and not an egomaniaical NWO sycophant, thus proving himself a Statesman, and not a mere politician.

And, as such, while a former Naval attache to NSA, an analyst, a spook, like Philip Giraldi, also a former CIA spook and on Ron Paul's 2008 Pres.Advisory team, Wayne Madsen has proven to be a man of integrity as far as record of his reporting is concerned, RT, or not.

Plus, ask any former intel agent, like Rob Baer, Roberte Steele, and Ray McGovern, whom used to give Presidential Daily Intel Briefings, damn near 85% of their intel comes from publicly available sources: ie. connecting the dots and reading in between the lines. As the joke goes with the Ruskies' old Pravda of the Soviet years, if you read the front page, page 53, and the back covers, somewhere in between, one can actually find the truth.

Of course, no one truly "knows" anyone for real, least of which those we observe from a far, or other public figures, unless one personally knows them. As far as I am concerned, the best one can do is go with your own personal gutcheck and intellect developed and distilled from informed discernment.

As with all these things, it's self-evident. I read and watch Amy Goodman and Democracy Now, I read RawStory, HuffingtonPost, DailyKos, Real News Network, The Nation, Mother Jones, CounterPunch.org, TruthDig, Infowars, Mike Rivero, Gerald Celente, Bob Chapman, Steve Quayle, Graham Hancock.com/news, Peter Schiff, Gary Franchi, G.Ed.Griffin's newsletters, NewsWithViews, Mises.org, LewRockwell.com, Taki, Am.Conservative, NewsMax, World Net Daily, etc. However, I view all of it with the same eye: an initial skepticism, until verified to my own criteria of satisfaction.

Besides, of all the new "alternative" media on the verge of mainstream, Russia Today, for better or for worse, has been MUCH more fair to the Good Doc than CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, FakeNews, FakeBizNews, or 3 regular TV net. Like coming on anything Murderdoch's empire, a double edged sword: we take Ron Paul's exposure with the knowledge that the only reason why they're letting him on is because in their minds it works to be a proper "opposition" against Dems, good for their ratings and with his growing populist support legitimizes their network, while we take that in exchange for a chance at just one idiot sheeple waking up to the REAL truth and facts. Hey, that's just life, and current reality of the matter. Does that mean RP agrees with the views of every media outlet he comes on? I'd proffer, not.

At this point, the American networks have proven themselves to be nothing more than continuation of Operation Mockingbird, as most of "alternative" online media have turned out to be as well. Like all nations, when they're criticizing any state, but their own State, they're far more aggressive with their reporting. Even the Gvt hacks at BBC often get their details more accurately about our own gvt, than they're willing to report on all the shenanigans of the UK gvt, which has turned their sodding island into a prime example of the West's technotronic panopticon of tyranny.

Somewhere amongst the noise, the TRUTH always reveals itself.

As long as one's own intellect is developed, has enough judgment skills, none of what one reads should influence them in an unintentional manner. Call it intellectual and spiritual immunity. Zen of it is, the less one worries about being influenced, the less you are influenced. At least, that's been the case for me. There are no illusions about origins of info here.

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sounds like felatiothegate.... just kidding

"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

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I said this on an earlier thread, but

So what are they saying, these people have the Internet? Ron Paul owns the internet, you can't infiltrate it because we've already recruited you.

I would like more

information.

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What has been Wayne Madsen's past record?

I've never paid much attention to him.

he gets a lot of insider details...

recently, NYT also alluded to this afterwards, but there was apparently an episode where oBUSHma were leading an internal meeting, or one with a group of visiting reporters and Rahm 'Mossad, the dual citizen, son of Irgun terrorist' Emmanuel, were pacing around the room talking while cracking his knuckles. oBOMBa told him dismissively, something to the effect of 'Rahm, that's quite annoying. Would you stop that, please?' Then, as vetted by a few reporters in attendance, Rahm proceeded to walk over to where Barry was sitting and like a child cracked his knuckle right by oBUSHma's ear.

Another, he was the DC Madam's media confidant. He was the first to break that Cheney were in her Black Book. Forgot if Porter Goss was part of that, or some other prostitution ring. I do know he was busted at the WaterGate Hotel hookergate, but not sure if that was Palfrey related.

Madsen also broke the mysterious murder of the former teacher in Palfrey's employ who were about to testify, or go through deposition (not sure how far along the process she was), and found dead.

Soon after Palfrey's own murder (she was on AJ show, along with Madsen a week or two, prior to her death, claiming explicitly that she will NEVER commit suicide, so, IF found dead and gvt claims it was suicide, beware), a man claiming to be a CIA agent were shot by Texan highway cops on TV, last year. Wayne's research, while inconclusive, he proffered that, that said "CIA" agent, could have been Palfrey's killer, and the highway shooting was an act of "tying loose ends."

He also broke the news on internal details of the recent flu vaccine conference in DC. Also, one of the few striding the mainstream and alternative media to popularize the skepticism of the vaccines and its possible Ft.Detrick or other gvt biolab/outsourced lab origins.

That's just a few minor ones, there are a lot of news he's broken over the years, especially the last 8. He used to offer his site for free, but now require subscription. So, if any of you guys subscribe to his site, feel free to post further details on the Blackwater-Journalist-RP 2008 Campaign infiltration.

I see why I've never paid any attention to him

He spreads rumours it appears.
The swine flu conference was public and on c-span.

I know what he does and I despise it. I could do the same thing. It's using the knowledge for your own personal gain instead of helping others. It's tempting because people are so unaware of sources and it's easy to spin a tale when you know the basic facts.

Mike Lawson, I'd recommend that you do a bit more research...

on Wayne Madsen, before you dismiss him. Just because you are not aware of something, does not make it so. Those were minor examples of recent ones I gave.

There is something called skepticism for skepticism's sakes. But, if you actually do more than cursory reading and still come to the same conclusion? C'est la vie, my friend. I don't have a dog in the fight.

Incorrect

Madsen doesn't spread rumors. He doesn't come out and say things unless they are from reliable sources or documented.

Most of his stories come from more confidential sources and documents that aren't publicly available.

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If this turns out to be true Dr.Paul needs to stand up and do something about this.I thought he did a good job on the MIAC report when it came to be true and substantiated so hopefully he'll do the same with this.
The CIA using a sub-contracter to spy on American congressman...why am I not surprised?
It's still infuriating and something needs to be done.

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees...

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees...

Infiltrated as journalists?

Did real or fake journalists roll up their sleeves and start working in the campaign or offering campaign advice, thereby gaining confidence of the campaign organizers? If not, where's the infiltration? Journalists were welcomed to cover the campaign. Every single one of them could have been armed and the campaign should not have objected.

Perhaps he meant they were POSING as journalists in order to get close enough to assassinate Ron, but a shooting would be a pretty sloppy way of dealing with the Ron Paul "problem." Access to Ron wasn't restricted that I'm aware so why would they pose as anything?

The story just sounds very implausible but hopefully more details are forthcoming.

New Hampshire and Ecuador

Spying

to find dirt. To discredit. To know inside info.

"They" openly decided that they had waited too long to eliminate the problem, to put it gently.

Defunct

Isn't Blackwater going out of business or changing it's name or something? It seems that a while ago it was briefly in the news for having a bad rap & working on changing it's name or rolling over into a new corp.

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

They're going by "Xe" now.

A dumbass name.

Like "X," like they can be anything, or an interim name that's undecided.

Trying to rename Blackwater, is like trying to rename the Nazis to Southern Poverty Law Center. Ooops, my bad, SPLC does infiltrate and LEAD neoNazis on behalf of gvt. never mind. Bad example...

So...

What would be the purpose behind having a mercenary "infiltrate" RP's campaign as a security guard? Maybe he was just moonlighting...?

Time to do away with the mercenaries regardless.

An utter speculation on my part...

but I'd proffer that CIA were mulling an Oswald: if the candidate proved too effective, always two steps away...

Oddly enough, if America did not have a history of such utter murderous and illegal use of mercs, from Hessians of the American Revolution, the Civil War, continuing onto modern times with the Pinkertons hired by Henry Ford to machinegun down Detroit auto unions during the early 1900's and more ramped up during the Korean War and Vietnam to now, IF we actually had a situation that required a genuine use of "Letters of Marque and Reprisals," I would not have ANY problems with their existence, use, or employment by private individuals and companies, though NOT by gvt.

But, I suppose, 'not having problem with mercenaries' is akin to deluding in an actual efficacy of gvt bureaucrats, or that the Leviathan, aka The State, would always be manned by angels, instead of historically proven FACT of being HIJACKED by the likes of NWO banksters and their sycophantic minion turds.

For instance, the current Somalian piracy issue would be a prime candidate, for the use of "Letters of Marque and Reprisals," as the Good Doctor druthers, ONLY IF, the NWO hijacked US.Govt & Mil.Ind.Complex did not have had a hand in depriving the Somalis of their resources, meddling around their neighbors in Sudan and Ethiopia and fomenting unrest, actually financing Al-CIA-da operations in their country AND their neighbors', to undermine those govts, not to mention illegally and immorally dumping NUCLEAR WASTE along the Somali shorelines, which forced their population into destitution and into petty theft, narco trafficking, and piracy.

Unfortunately, what should be a prime example of where "Letters of Marque and Reprisals" instituted mercs. working within the confines of the international and local common laws, to recover the hijacked private sea-going vessels, it just became another stellar example of blowback.
And, an excuse by neoCONS and neoLiBs to push for further Naval operation expansion in the area (like, 'look, the Navy SEAL snipers got them. We need MORE!'), not to mention giving them ammo to further legitimize the "necessity" for the existence of AFRICOM.

Mercs, are like any adrenaline junkies: they need the action. Except, their kind inevitably involves dead bodies, unlike MotoX, MotoGP, Formula1, bungie jumping, sky jumping, or riding choppers.

One of the best documentaries I've ever seen on mercenaries, is called "Shadow Company" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Company).

Though, the nature of the tone of the documentary leaves me with a sneaking suspicion that it might have been actually financed by the merc lobby to distance themselves away from the overtly aggressive Blackwater. Yup, they actually have one. Hey, if the porn industry has lobby, why wouldn't they? You all will laugh at the irony of its name: IPOA, the International Peace Operations Association. (http://www.ipoaworld.org/eng/ipoamembers.html) You can also check out the liberal site TPM's little short: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kuf6MA6pzw

Or, you can buy any of TacticalResponse.com's Jim Yeager (http://www.youtube.com/user/JamesYeager) tactical instructional videos to get a glimpse of what someone who worked as a cop, a town sheriff, a narc, a SWAT leader, and currently works as a cop, as well as being the owner operator of Tactical Response, whom just happened to have wondered off into Iraq to see what it was like, most likely hired by Blackwater, to do "security" during the ink-dipping puppet-gvt "elections."

Yeager is perhaps, currently the best known former merc, with full operational battlefield experience, ie. actually got to say "tango down" in real life, who is currently teaching both military and civilian students at his tactical training center in Camden, Tennessee. I would highly recommend their program, as well as their videos, if one wants to be fully sufficient in the use of arms in surviving a real tactical defense situations. I'd also highly recommend FrontSight.com, Rob Pincus' ICE-Training.us, Garbe Suarez in AZ, and Chris Costa at MagPul Dynamics, for a different take on tactical defense, as well.

Hey, why let their real-world experience go to waste, I'd say.