Pastor Anderson's Church now a Hate Group
Submitted by Kinsjon on Tue, 09/01/2009 - 00:27
Remember this pastor made a few YouTube videos about being harrassed at a makeshift border checkpoint in Arizona a few months back. I just saw the tail end of the local news where the police department now identifes his church as a hate group.
I checked on line and found the below link. Apparently he gave a recent sermon entitled "Why I hate Barak Obama", to include his continued prayers for Obama's death.
I'm tired and haven't read the links, just thought I'd pass it on to the night shift if anyone really cares.
http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/articles_n36/obama-anders...
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Well if I am going to pray
Well if I am going to pray for my leaders I will pray that they receive justice. I would love to see these scum bags get what they deserve. I think a good old french style revolution would be fitting and would go a long way in implementing justice. I would actually pay to see it go down on pay per view. I wonder if it would be worth a 100 bucks to see Rockefeller go to the guilotine?
I think both sides are unjustified.
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Sowing and reaping.
We are commanded to pray for our enemies. We are also told to love our enemies.
Honestly, I don't always know what to pray sometimes. Sometimes I pray for protection from enemies and even for the upper hand, victory. Sometimes I pray for the bad things to stop or for things to turn around favorably.
Sometimes I just pray that God's will be done.
I guess that is where faith comes in. I am going to try to follow his formula and sow seeds accordingly and believe for him to coordinate things for a good harvest.
Sometimes if I know an enemy is suffering, I will even sow a seed of prayer regarding that.
Victory over our enemies, or even vindication, does not always come in the form of horrible things happening to them or their death. I'll let that be God's call.
While there may be people we despise and people who do evil who will never turn away from it, I'm not so sure it's my place to decide who that is going to be and petition God for their death.
I will not be petitioning God for bad things to befall my enemies or for peoples' deaths... or condoning when others do petition that way.
We reap what we sow.
This guy is bad news
for the liberty movement. Already in the initial reports the MMM is tying him to open carry activists. The connection to his run in with the border patrol will also be made, and painted as someone who is looking for a fight. It doesn't mean they're right, and doesn't mean we can't argue the truth of the matter, but why allow this man to make it harder for us? What good does it do to wish someone dead by brain cancer?
"We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him."
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Complete sermon
I have not watched this yet but I like things in full context.
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Why I Hate Barack Obama" fundamental baptist preaching
1:06:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to6hd3zTq2E
also
Local News report
Arizona Pastor Defends Praying for Obama’s Death
http://www.breitbart.tv/arizona-pastor-defends-praying-for-o...
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Which is worse?
Promoting the actual, brutal mass killings of innocent babies, or, praying for God to take out a a promoter mass killings of innocent babies?
Anyone who's ever lost a loved one to a brutal murderer knows what it is like to want God to strike the murderer dead.
Anyone who is watching our beloved country get strangled slowly to death by the unconstitutional, audacious schemes of an illegitimate politician posing as President of the greatest nation on the face of the earth, and seeing the likelihood of our children forced to be slaves to the global elite bankers ought to be praying the same thing!!
If you don't hate weeds, you don't love good crops or beautiful flower gardens.
If you don't hate rapists, you don't love decent innocent young ladies.
If you don't hate Tyrants, you don't love freedom.
If you don't hate Ben Bernanke, you don't love financial freedom.
If you don't hate, you cannot love.
King David was "a man after God's own heart" (Acts 13:22).
He is called the 'sweet psalmist of Israel" yet God inspired him to pray, sing and write the following:
Psalms 58:6 "Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O LORD."
7 "Let them melt away as waters which run continually: when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces."
8 "As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun."
9 "Before your pots can feel the thorns, he shall take them away as with a whirlwind, both living, and in his wrath."
10 "The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked."
11 "So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth."
He also wrote:
Psalms 97:10 "Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked."
Ezekiel wrote from the mouth of God the following:
Ezekiel 22:20 "As they gather silver, and brass, and iron, and lead, and tin, into the midst of the furnace, to blow the fire upon it, to melt it; so will I gather you in mine anger and in my fury, and I will leave you there, and melt you."
21 "Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you in the fire of my wrath, and ye shall be melted in the midst thereof."
22 "As silver is melted in the midst of the furnace, so shall ye be melted in the midst thereof; and ye shall know that I the LORD have poured out my fury upon you."
Some people are so wicked, they are beyond repenting.
For those of you who think we should only pray good for people you need to read what God told Jeremiah to write:
Jeremiah 14:11 "Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for their good."
He didn't say pray not. He said pray for not for their good, so I guess that means there is a time to pray for some people' death and destruction in order for justice and vengeance to be done.
The book of Revelation says that people will be praising God when He takes vengeance on the wicked:
Revelation 19:1 "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:"
2 "For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand."
3 "And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever."
4 "And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia."
5 "And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great."
6 "And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth."
This last verse is where Handel got the text for a well-loved section of his famous "Hallelujah" chorus in His "Messiah".
Bottom-line is God's Word is true, men and religions lie to get people to follow them; hence the namby-pamby, 'God is love"-only mantra.
Of course, God is love, that is why He died for our sins. But those who do not believe it and ultimately and with finality reject it, God hates and will have them cast into Hell.
That does not mean He takes pleasure in it. Because the Bible says He doesn't:
Ezekiel 33:11 "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die...?"
And also:
2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is ... not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
But if we do not come to repentance (change our mind and agree with God that we are sinners in need of salvation, and He is the only Saviour) we damn ourselves by not accepting the only way of salvation He provides for all. Because He believes in freedom, He does not require anyone to spend eternity with Him who wants to do their own thing.
So, we who know the truth and the consequences of no believing the truth we are motivated by this scripture:
2 Corinthians 5:11 "Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men..."
Those who absolutely refuse to heed God's warning over and over and in fact work toward the enslavement and the destruction of those who seek to warn them lose the privilege of being prayed for for good. The alternative is what Barack Obama has put himself into. He mocks America. He mocks our founding fathers. He mocks the Constitution. He mocks our Christian heritage. He mocks our labour and our right to the fruits of our labour. He mocks the Bible and tells those who expose him to not "bear false witness," and on and on ad nauseum.
Pastor Anderson is a kind man and very gracious, but determined to tell the truth no matter what. He is one of the most courageous men I have ever heard of in my lifetime.
Those who criticize him do not know him, have not listened to full-length sermons and or do not know the Bible very well.
I stand by him and I stand by his statements, even though I may not make the same statements, I defend his right to do so and I believe he is right according to the Bible in all its context and within the context of his sermon.
Those who attack him brand themselves as unpatriotic and either Bible-illiterate, or deceitful in their handling of the Bible.
If this is difficult for you to swallow. You need to study the subject of hate in the Bible yourself.
Of course, if you do not believe the Bible is the Word of God, then you have a bigger problem. It's your right to believe what you want. God will not twist your arm. But like Jesus said in the gospel of John:
John 12:47 "And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world."
48 "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKE, THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM in the last day."
You are warned, in love and concern, I hope you are never hated for rejecting God's Word. When people reject God's Word which so pure, right, just and holy, they deserve to be hated.
But until then, they are greatly loved, and God will make every effort to persuade them of His love for them, which He so clearly showed on Calvary.
from a Lover and a Hater
P.S. Those who are vocal against Pastor Anderson really seem to hate him...hmmm, hypocrisy here?
You bottle up and hate and all it will ever do is
burn.
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Why Shouldn't We Pray for the Death of Tyrant Traitors?
Our founding fathers probably wished the King would drop dead.
I pray for the deaths of all those that violate our Constitution. I wish I could kill them all myself. Look at the harm they are causing the entire nation and world, completely in violation of their sworn oaths to defend our law.
When we have gone to war with other tyrants around the world, our intention was to kill them. So why should it be any different right here at home?
These are not common criminals, they are committing traitorous crimes against the highest law of our country and humanity. The only reason most don't question it, is because it happens on a daily basis and appears normal!
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Pray for a conversion instead
To pray for a death of a stranger diminishes you; it saps you and takes you down. If you want to pray for something, pray that they have some kind of epiphany or realization, and come to their senses - sort of like Ebenezer Scrooge on Christmas Eve. (Not the best example, but close).
Despite opinion to the contrary, bad people can change, and have throughout history. A famous Biblical example is Saul, who vilified Christ and the new Christianity. Then he had a revelation and became Paul (later St. Paul) and went about spreading the word, founding churches.
And yet, we know the opposite is true. Good men and women can become corrupt with the first taste of power. Napoleon, as First Consul of France, was a whirlwind of positive activity. He built roads, opened schools, allowed the Catholic church to open its doors again. But then he became drunk with his own power and that was the beginning of the end.
Anyhow to wish someone dead is nothing I would care to do, and am a bit surprised that others agree with the Pastor. But then, I was also surprised at the venom directed at Teddy Kennedy the other day.
Do they pray to convert you?
Do they pray to convert you? No, they shove controlled media, education and a corrupt reality down your throat. Condition your mind to love education more than liberty and rights.
Are you saying that if you were the only 'awake' person on earth and the rest were full of scientific indoctrination and controlled by elitist eugenics thugs... and you had a button to kill those in control and turn the earth around, you wouldn't?
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I agree, I pray Obama repents!
-Paul (BTW) was a great example to use. May Obama become as much a friend of freedom as he is an enemy now.
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You're right. But we need action more than praying.
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I agree with you
We shouldn't be praying for anyone's death. It contaminates our own souls to do so.
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Great point, Sempiternal!
Staggering
For a pastor, or any member of the clergy, to pray for someone's death - anyone - is horrific. It's contrary to everything Jesus died for and is contrary to most of the other religions also. It's insane.
He's not supposed to be discussing this sort of thing from the pulpit anyway. Man, I hope his church loses its tax-exempt status and someone sits Anderson down and talks some sense into him.
That's the kind of thinking that got us into terrible messes in the first place. Bush justified wanting to kill Saddam Hussein because, "He threatened my daddy" or words to that effect. Sane people just don't do these things.
I rather doubt
that he is a 501c3.
He's not.
He's not.
It's all relative
Christian based hate groups are the largest percentage by definition in our country. I think Colorado Springs is the Hate group capital of the world, at least it was in the year 2000
It's really easy to cross the line these days, I think we might be a hate group for hating socialism.
Hate is OK
It's natural and is an emotional response to a grave insult, especially if it's deliberate. If some loony strangles your puppy, it's natural to hate him for what he did.
But to pray for his death? No, that's where I draw the line.
Pastor Anderson
Pastor Anderson unfortunately subscribes to the belief of "an eye for an eye." In his sermon he says he hopes Obama dies because of his stance on abortion.
Specifically, he wants Obama to dry up like a snail that just had salt poured on it, drawing comparisons to a common abortion technique which injects a saline solution on the embryo which dries it out and kills it.
So, it was a sermon about an eye-for-eye.
In being in the news, this is currently being utilized to further portray Constitutionalists as God-totting radicals.
Notice in the news link sharpsteve provided further above...
They try to tie in the open-carry gun issue with this. (toward the end of the video)
http://www.breitbart.tv/arizona-pastor-defends-praying-for-o...
folks could see this coming
When will the FBI snipers show up?
waco all over again?
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