What my wife said to me tonight....

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I had just come from a coalition type meeting of liberty minded folks consisting of some elements of the Campaign for Liberty, Young Americans for Liberty, The Libertarian Party of Wisconsin and Liberty on the Rocks a liberty focused social group....it was a great time but getting to my point...when I got home I laid in bed next to my wife and I started talking to her about what I had just experienced and I asked her this question...."What do you think about the Constitution?" and she said that she believes that "it was written for the people of that time and that a whole new Constitution had to be written."

Needless to say I was appalled by that statement....I explained to her the dangers of such a thing and she had no comment for me. I have tried to teach her, I have tried to explain things to her about the true nature of liberty and the responsibility that comes with it and she will not have any of it she says that I am crazy if I expect anyone to truly live up to the standards put forth in the Constitution and that those ideas were dangerous.....this is not good.

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This subject appalls me

It's not your concern about it but some of the responses. Divorce her? What? You don't agree with your spouse on everything so you are going to divorce her? No one would be married if that were the case. You guys think that the politicians should honor the Constitution that they pledged to defend but you don't care about marriage vows? How sad is that?

There is more to the story here and we don't know all of the facts. If I were you, I would sit down and have a real talk about exactly why she believes she does. If the Constitution requires modification, then it needs to be modified legally, not run over. She needs to understand that. It isn't just that the Constitution is a document we believe in, it is the law right now and it is being violated. That is what is wrong with this picture; not whether we agree with whether it needs modification or not. If you want to modify it, do it legally!

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

I think about this type of

I think about this type of situation a lot. What would I do?
Finding a girl to marry is hard work, let alone one that shares your views. Being single I would almost rather have been married before I learned about Ron Paul and all this stuff. Now I don't think I could marry someone who didn't share the same ideas about liberty. Dating is pretty difficult too, talking about this stuff to me is essential but to them a pretty big turn off. So that narrows down the dating pool pretty significantly and leaves the likelihood of marriage remote. No I'd much rather be in your position, sure it sucks she doesn't understand yet, but at least you have someone. Have faith, people change. Time prevails where reason fails. If she's worth it, I'd say go to the gates of hell and back for her. You can't force her to think the way you want but you can make her understand how important this is to you, she'll understand that at least and respect it. If nothing else she'll keep you sharp if she's very opinionated. Explore her views and philosophy more, your goals may be the same, just differing means to get there. Sometimes its good to have someone to rub up against. In more ways than one :) Good luck!

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why on earth would you ever sign a marriage license in the first place? i suppose if she doesnt care about liberty and freedom shed probably be pissed at the idea of being married without having the state recognized chops to back it up... but yeah that sounds like a bad situation to be in.

what i usually do with my girl when she gets into something is i basically dismiss those things that are important to her when she brings them up, and when she gets pretty annoyed at it i draw the parallels between my behavior and her own.

as a result i have an 'other half' who will basically bend to my political will upon request. not nearly as good as believing in it but i suppose its not as bad as dismissing it entirely.

So if you are not a socialist then shall we get rid of all

socialist things like, Social security, Public Schools, Fire Department, Unemployment, welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, Public works, Sanitation Dept,
Police Dept, Public Library, Labor Board, etc... The list goes on.
So you see there are many things Socialistic in the US already.
If we are going to have a health care system we should see where we stand in the world compared to other countries and if we do we are at or near bottom. We spend more money on health care than most other countries but have the worst health. We take more medicines than all other countries yet we don't live longer they do.
So why does it cost so much? First of all, if we simply got covered by medicare we would save around 350 Billion because that would eliminate a lot of health insurance premiums (Profits). No new taxes we would all be covered. Obama is of course going to give the health insurance companies their dream come true. Imagine making it mandatory to have Health insurance instead. The health insurers are coming in their pants. Their profits will soar to new highs. Obama is their best friend and our worst enemy. Also if we could be allowed to buy our drugs on a competetive basis we would save another 500 Billion. Now we are spending less then before actually saving money.
Personally given a choice I would pick Medicare and take back the obscene profits from the insurers and big pharma companies.
One example is that one bottle of a medicine cost them 6 cents to make they charge us 130 dollars but in Canada and other countries it costs 6 dollars. Because our government won't let us by it cheaper. They are creating a monopoly for big pharma. That is not free enterprise.
I vote for Medicare it works pretty darn good and we can improve on it.

Pentagon is a socialist symbol!

Don't forget to add the military, the biggest socialist government project of them all. It's just one big pyramid scheme.
Reinstate our constitution, the Articles of Confederation, then States can regulate private local militias.
grant

get the

divorce papers ready

My heart goes out to you.

I had to end my marraige over something similar. I can only pray for you it will work out.
What struck me on this post is that over 100 patriots cared enough to respond and sympathise. That's a good thing.
Hang in there brother.

What city are you from bravoseis?

I go to the University of Wisconsin-Madison and we are rocking and rolling here in the YAL group on campus and there's a chance we may get Ron Paul to speak on campus if we keep up our activism!!

Milwaukee..........

We are just starting to build up the movement against the obvious socialists we are up against here.....

Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.”
– Patrick Henry, speech to the Virginia Convention

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now now be nice everyone...

Not everybody cares about their political environment, they feel it is beyond their control or are otherwise engaged. We still love these people...maybe they allow you to focus on this stuff but have a legitimate distraction from it all.

We are humans. Life must me lived. Some of us play in the garden some of us tend to the garden.

Fighting for liberty is just pulling weeds.

Sorry Man

She was probably educated in public government run schools. The only way to get through to those people is by asking questions which cause them to reason the solutions.

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So sorry.....

I am so grateful that my bettter half
was the one who gave me the red pill.
Thanks Darlin.

A lot of really great sex

she being the recipient, can open a mind up quite well.......mellow her down so she doesn't have fences. Then talk reason.........quietly and innocuously. And tomorrow she'll say, 'What my husband said to me last night' with passion.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

You believe that crap?

If you wont fight for the right when you can easily win...you may...have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival [or] when there is no chance of victory...it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
W.Churchill

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

I certainly do

Great sex can do great things. Great sex can open the mind.........take down barriers. She, the wife, may have barriers she doesn't even realize........a few good Os could make her passive enough for a few minutes, to let down her guard and listen to something other than what she believes to be her truth.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

well said. and all to true.

as a male, I would get my head bit off if I said the samething,,,,,
I was going to suggest he ask her to try and reconcile her personal philosophical beliefs with her "political" posture........ I have tearned, politic's,philosophy and theology are all closely related. but rarely reconciled.
don't throw the baby out with the bathwater?

" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
Albert Einstien

Knowledge is power, action is love.

Yes....make mad, passionate....

Liberty to her.

lol

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

I have a good movie suggestion for you both

"Swept Away" by Lena Wertmuller An Italian romance made in the late 60s.. It's HOT, it's a love story between a socialite capitalist and a communist crewman on her yaught in the Greek Islands..

Madonna was so impressed she remade the movie.. Madonna's version is not good at all. But the Italian movie... it's funny, it's sad, it's passionate.. it's well acted... women LOVE it because the woman is the capitalist, she's a spolied rich, and the communist.. he's an animal.. a sexy animal..

When I clicked on the YouTube to give you this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-krzvfB0w&feature=related my friend just walked in and asked if that was "Swept Away".. now they won't stop talking about it so I'm going to find one with subtitles to watch.

You will both enjoy this movie, and each others differences will appear very different to you after you see what happens.

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I'm sorry.

That must be a horrible thing to have to deal with. I mean, the frustration.. I couldn't even imagine if I couldn't get thru to my husband. I would be tearing my hair out..

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Some people just...

don't get it. I am convinced it is in the genes. Some people are just wired differently. Good Luck with that!

Divorce her

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Brace for it...

Some people want a socialist state.

*headplosion*

CHA-CHING!

CHA-CHING!

I say people don't care or

understand until it affects them, like a river rising until something happens and she is affected by it, she won't understand. I found it didn't matter what sex a person is if they are not affected, they don't understand. Ask her more questions and really listen to what she is saying it may give you some clues on how to proceed. Good luck, to you and thank you for all that you do.

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Bravo: My suggestion is: show her this thread and ask her if she

agrees with any of these many responses. Then give her a hug and say let's talk. Good luck.

Tell her they wrote a new one in 1988

She'll never know the difference.

Wow Mike, good one!

If you wont fight for the right when you can easily win...you may...have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival [or] when there is no chance of victory...it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
W.Churchill

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Spewed my wine

Oh, but that's funny.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

Thats just

Thats just bad....FUNNY...but bad.

"Our relationship to the United States ( CORPORATE ) government is much like the one I have with my wife. It is a very common thing when I find out we're not "on the same page". Occasionally, I wonder if we're in the same book. And sometimes, I have to wonder if she's even on the same planet as I am?" --Me

LMAO!! Oh Mike!!

* Now that was funny!

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