How do we discuss the obama speech with our children
Submitted by NoDak4RP on Fri, 09/04/2009 - 10:41
I have a 9 year old in a public school and will not be able to take him out on that day so he'll probably be exposed to the speech. I am divorced and my ex has full custody of my son and is an obama supporter to boot. Anyway, does anybody have any advice on how to bring this up and discuss it with a child under these circumstances?
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What kind of people have we
What kind of people have we become that we don't want our kids "exposed" to the President of the United States? We used to be grateful if the President took a few moments to address us, but now we seem determined to turn our kids against him even before he speaks.
First,
I'd explain some basics about America vs Communism, and how Communism(Totalitarian Statism) is the enemy of all real Americans.
Then, I'd show the laundry list of rock-solid examples of how Obama is a radical revolutionary Communist, and has been an active and zealous Communist agitator and organizer all his adult life. And how virtually ALL of Obama's policies and attempts at policies up to this date illustrate his Communist plans for us.
Then, I'd tell him about how it is Obama's goal to destroy the basic political foundations that originally comprised the United States, and enslave every one in it, and kill or incarcerate anyone who resists.
And finally, I'd try to explain how a large number of people who "call themselves Americans" voted for something like Obama, and how brainwashed they are, and that the brainwashing happens in the schools and in the media, and from the government itself.
And that, Little Johnny, is why you should NEVER listen to ANYTHING from Obama, or any of his supporters. For the rest of your life. Except if you want to analyze some clues about how Obama and his minions are planning on executing their plans against you.
Then I'd give him a copy of the Constitution to read instead, and show him how the amendments indicated growing corruption and deviation from the document starting with the Civil War era, and getting worse as time went on.
I tell my children...
to listen up to what he has to say.. and if any of the kids around them say stupid things about how BAD and EVIL Obama is to just remember their parents are the crazies that voted for Bush the past eight years and got all those thousands of Americans killed in Iraq.
Which Obama is cheerfully continuing,
and even escalating, acting as Bush's 3rd term in foreign policy, and implementing a Stalinist domestic policy.
Propagandize the kiddies and start
them being unthinking little partisans early, that's your strategy? Get them to hate anyone who disagrees with their parents' views -- after all their parents are just crazies right? and of course you know that anyone who'd dare criticize perfect Obama MUST have voted for Bush and his wars.
'Cause there's only 2 possible options in your world view, Republican or Democrat. What a tidy little mind you have, so easy to not be bothered with nuances or ideas that don't fit your narrow 'my side good, all other views evil' view.
I'm sorry for your children growing up with such a rigid code, but you may be surprised. Children have a way of thinking for themselves and noticing their parents' shortcomings. And by the time they're teens Obama's abject failures will be obvious to the world, just as Bush's evil became apparent even to many of his former supporters.
to the rest of us who always thought both presidents were slime, we just shake our heads in sadness that so many partisans give these evil men power to kill and rob.
NoDak4RP
Lucky for me I had all nine of my grandchildren this summer, We studied the Constitution and played Find the BO Birthcertificate! So I'm not to worried :o)
What is the text of the speech.
I know that the State Run Media has told us that it will be Obama telling students to work hard, etc.
But, I guarantee you that his speech will include some comment or suggestion to prepare them for public service in Obama's million man civilian defense force, which will be just as well funded and equipped as the military.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDgz0rODZU&feature=g-upl
Here's my answer:
Here's my answer: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/105743
Please read it and bump it.
There is something very creepy
about the President speaking to small children, afterall they're not voters. Whether it's Bush or Obama, it makes me want to say ugh.
Tell the child to remember what you told him about listening to strange men.
For small children - tell them he's an evil alien...
...and can steal their brain if they watch too long.
For teenagers, tell them he wants to outlaw iPods.
He's done.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
The Medium is the message
Re-posted for the bump. What Obama says is not important. The message is that the president, (any president, but this one in particular), is a kind, well-meaning, avuncular figure, whose words have extraordinary veracity.
The medium is the message.
From all accounts, the content of the speech is innocuous.
When you discuss it with your child, ask what makes one man more believable than another. Does it make a man better if he puts flags all around him? Is a man's opinion any better or worse because some other people can make children listen to him? Is a man on television a better man than someone who is not on TV? Talk about how to make an effective speech. Can it be faked? In other words, is a good actor better at giving speeches than someone else? How do you tell if someone believes what they are saying? (Answer: A lot of times, you cannot.)
Ask what the child thinks government does. Is is always good? When it is not good, what can be done about it? If a president asks you to do something, should you think about it or just do it? What if someone with flags on TV were to tell you to do something you thought was bad, what should you do?
Here
There is a man who is in a position who's power has far exceeded anything authorized to it by nature and reasonable human interaction. This man controls vast armies, navies and other military / intelligence capabilities. He also oversees a vast national (and international) bureaucracy who's powers far exceed what they are authorized to do in any natural or legal sense. This man, in this great position of unauthorized power, wants to speak to the potential future troops in an army of control and oppression. He wants you to work hard to be in this "army" but he doesn't want you to question the premises. Just do as your told, he will say. The problem is, all of this is a sham and you must realize you are not in service to any collective, especially one based totally on force. You are FREE to live for yourself, your family, your community, etc. It is important to eliminate aggressive force in our lives, so going along with Mr. Obama is a problem, as he is fine with lots and lots of aggressive force. We must realize that these so-called "powerful" men have their power built on lies, distortions and all around BS. It is up to you to be a true force of peace, freedom, prosperity and overall goodness.
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Just tell them what it is .
Just tell them what it is . Kids are smarter than what some like to believe...They can smell rat bait better than adults can.. Main thing is discuss it.
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The medium is the message
The medium is the message.
From all accounts, the content of the speech is innocuous.
When you discuss it with your child, ask what makes one man more believable than another. Does it make a man better if he puts flags all around him? Is a man's opinion any better or worse because some other people can make children listen to him? Is a man on television a better man than someone who is not on TV? Talk about how to make an effective speech. Can it be faked? In other words, is a good actor better at giving speeches than someone else? How do you tell if someone believes what they are saying? (Answer: A lot of times, you cannot.)
Ask what the child thinks government does. Is is always good? When it is not good, what can be done about it? If a president asks you to do something, should you think about it or just do it? What if someone with flags on TV were to tell you to do something you thought was bad, what should you do?
I just sent it
I just sent this to a friend of mine who is a third grade public school teacher and a Ron Paul supporter. I bet she will not only use it herself, but spread it to other teachers.
Good work. This kind of thing makes it worth wading through the BS from the trolls here.
Wow
Excellent!
You should spread this. I will
Glad to help.
Glad to help.
My wife and I planned to
My wife and I planned to talk to our kids about it today. I don't believe in sheltering them from the world and what is going on. The 17 and 13 year old girls are fully aware and will just shrug their heads at the speech. My 13 year old daughter got in a debate with her teacher last year about the fact that we are a representative constitutional Republic and not a Democracy...pretty funny. My 8 year old son is fairly aware and was upset last year when they only gave him McCain or Obama to vote for. He knew how much we despised McCommie and so when 'forced' to vote he voted Obama. After that we had a serious discussion with him and told him it was okay and what he should do next time while he hung his head thoroughly upset.
Just talk to your kids...give them information and they will see the simple truths. Kids are amazing that way. Remember they have to learn to make the choices themselves and use the knowledge at their disposal to make good decisions.
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I really feel for you and others in this position. I would
first and foremost contact your school principal and district superintendent and voice your concerns.
I have not thought about this question and I am glad you brought it up. Hopefully the DP can find the answer. I suppose I would start with What did you learn about our President today? This will give you some insight to how important is was to him and go from there. If it blew right by him, I would leave it alone. Without knowing his questions it's hard to have an answer, but I suppose the theme of my talk would based on how people have different opinions and there is always two sides of the story. Again, hopefully the DP can arm you and others with good talking points.
A selfish bump, my daughter will not be going to school and she already has her mind set anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-mMuj4idRo
My school system isn't going
My school system isn't going to show it. They'll provide a link so parents can watch it with their children if they desire.
I talk to my kids though. We had a conversation about it already before I knew they weren't going to show it. Started something kinda like this:
"You know how bad people try to make you trust them by giving you candy and saying things that make you *Feel* safe with them, before they do something bad to you? Well, Tuesday you might see a video..."
Which led to a Really Great discussion and questions from them about the difference between the Object of the Flag, and the Ideas it represents, taking oaths/pledges vs. letting your Yes be Yes and your No be No, a quick description of the behaviour of Lemmings, a short paraphrase of the Pied Piper story, and a relationship between Salesmen and Politicians Carring a Bible and Wrapped in a Flag.
Was a good conversation. Smart kids.
im tring this with the grandchildren today..thanks
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