Need advice - may be life or death

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I know this is off topic but it seems like more and more people in America are getting more violent and frustrated with their lives in general.

I recently got engaged to a wonderful girl who has a child with another man. This other man lives in Chicago and we live in Colorado. I have never met this man but he has been sending her texts saying that he is going to kill me. She tells me that he is just being crazy and is probably drunk when he sends these texts and she doesn't think that he would actually do it. I plan on buying a small pistol for self-defense just in case but I really wanted to see if anyone here on the DP had any advice on what I should do in this type of situation.

Gerald Martinez

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Save the emails/texts!

If the police or attorney get involved, this will help especially if he has any priors for violence or domestic violence. Document everything. What time he calls,etc.
You may not need this info right now, but it may come in handy at a later date.
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When asked what did you give us?
"A Republic, if you can keep it" ~ Benjamin Frankiln

Maybe a "cease and desist"

letter from an attorney? Most people are really intimidated by any
communication from an attorney.

Ya know,

I'm not a big fan of "law enforcement", but in this instance, you need all the help you can get.

I would contact your local Police Department, It can't hurt, and maybe they can do something to help.

Other than that, definitely call this guy, and call him out on the carpet.

If someone threatened me, my response would be, "you wanna piece of me boy?", "bring it on".

The Police can't be everywhere at all times, and at some point we have to defend ourselves.

Most often we have to defend ourselves.

Call him, call him out, and let him know that you are not afraid, even if you are afraid.

No sense worrying about idle threats and things you can't control.

Stand up to a bully, and 9 times out of 10, he will back down.

call him

we deal with this stuff all the time in my family, after a phone call and some strict words they stop

U need 2 take whatever steps necessary 4 your own peace of mind.

You need to take whatever steps necessary for your own daily peace of mind. You don't want to live in fear for the rest of your life, choosing tables at a restaurant based on whether your back faces the door or not.

You've had plenty of suggestions here, but only you know yourself.
If she is indeed the one that you firmly believe to be your life-partner, then you need to take whatever measures to come to terms with this potential threat.

If it were me, I'd want a full background check on the guy to help determine the level of threat he may or may not pose. But of course that doesn't guaranty anything. However it may help with your future decisions on how to deal with this.
And it can be done online without his or her knowledge for a fee.

Don't rely on her knowledge of his history, she likely may not know all of it.

Also how long has it been since you and her have become an item?
If this is all relatively new(to him), then it may just be nothing but talk.
His acceptance of the end of their previous relationship will naturally take some time.
But if we're in month 6 of him wanting to do you harm then I would place the threat at a more severe level.

Good luck with it.

Send him an email

If you know the Lord share the Lord with the guy. If he comes after you put him away.

TheKingIsComing

I strongly suggest being at some kind of peace w/ this situation

For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E.

before you get married. When you get there, chances are its going to remain the same/ be worse. Please keep in mind that when you get married, you become eligible for divorce & that divorce overcomes marriage in 1/3 of American cases. If you're living apart now & will be living together when you get married there's no reason not to think this will not increase since you/ her will be living in the same house. As a matter of fact, when you're married, you never get a break from each other. Marriage is not the perfect solution to a relationship b/c if it was, divorce wouldn't occur. It could be that if you get married, then divorced, the problems will be more. I'm not trying to dissuade you from getting married. There are people who live together & have children w/out getting married & break up & get along better than divorced couples b/c they haven't had to live through a divorce. I'm sorry if you don't care for what Ive said.

For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E.

Show his kid what daddy is doing.

Then call him and tell him if he ever threatens you again you'll make sure his kid never sees him again.

If that dosen't work then post his number here and let fellow patriots harass him a bit. I know that's dirty but hey, he's the one making threats.

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do NOT do this to an

innocent child - what the hell is matter with you oruval?

inform the police and send an attorney's letter - that's what i would do

having a gun for self defence purposes is a good idea anyway

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This isn't the child's fault

This isn't the child's fault and to lay this kind of information on him would be abusive, in my opinion. No matter what, take the high road and never bad mouth this creep to the little boy. He will respect you for it as he grows up.

I didn't say bad mouth.

I would show the child what his father is doing. Ask him if he's okay with him doing that to mom.

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That's just asking for bad news. I wouldn't go there.

We don't live in the Middle East for a reason. If someone wants to live that way, I suggest they move there.

No need to involve the kid. Even if he/she is old enough to understand anything at all, trying to make someone look bad is "playing games." Bad people are obvious to anyone. Just raise the kid to recognize the good, and they'll spot the bad apples a mile away.

until he kills ya.

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That's what my gun is for.

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Thanks for everyones

Thanks for everyones advice.

I think that I am going to have a talk with her when I get home and will ask her to end phone contact with him and to just have him email the money gram information for child support until she has the court complete the intermediary retrieval of support.

I will also start the process to get a gun and permits. I live in Colorado so will have to see what type of permits are available to me.

I know alot of people here think that she may be playing games but I have read some of the messages she sent him and they do not appear to lead him on in the slightest, in fact it is the exact opposite where she makes it clear they will never be back together. She really has been a very supportive partner to me and has not done anything to lose any trust. She even gave me all her IDs and passwords to her myspace and emails without me asking. I know that I am taking on alot of baggage with this relationship, but does that mean that she does not deserve to be with anyone?

Think about it some more

Think about it for a week. Re-read all the responses. I've got a real bad feeling about this.

If you are going to be kind to people, start with yourself.

Separate

what we've speculated about from what she has done that raises red flags.

What she has done
-Dismissed his threat
-Told you you're the one blowing it out of proportion

None of this has to do with how deserving she is, but it raises red flags about how she is involved with his unhealthy paradigm and expects you to go along as well.

No one should ever dismiss a death threat and her judgment is compromised if she's dismissing it.

Also, that he unloads his depression on her makes me think he's trying to make her feel guilty for it. Just speculating now, but that's a form of manipulation that may be causing her to be too light on him (excuse his behavior too easily).

Defend Liberty!

Best of luck to you.

I don't think it is a question of her "deserving" someone. The question is, "Is she really ready emotionally for that?" and "does it have to be you?"

Maybe one day she'll show she is ready, but I'm a little more risk averse I guess. I might have taken your same position ten years ago - always wanting to 'save the girl.' That usually ends badly though. Be careful.

Are you doing this to fulfill your need to be needed? To be her "savior?" Are your feelings for her in anyway tainted by those circumstances? (are they more of empathy for her plight than love for her because of her character?)

I know what I say here because I have that problem - wanting to "rescue" the "damsel in distress." But I've recognized that isn't healthy for me or her. It is part of my innate desire and knack for parenting or caring for another. Until I find the RIGHT woman though, I'm better off with a puppy.

I'm not saying she is a bad person, I don't even know her. But everything you say on her tells me this isn't a healthy situation for anyone, and I sure hope I'm wrong and some good does come out of it.

Anyone?

If "the baggage" wasn't a problem, you would have not reached out to a virtual community seeking "life of death" advice, and seriously thinking of arming yourself.

What a hell of a start.

Good LUCK!!!

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13 made a point below that

I thought I should bump to the top.

Know what he looks like!

Defend Liberty!

Its better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

For Freedom!

For Freedom!
STUGOTS! To the high and felutent establishment!
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Call Jerry Springer

Before she does. She's a gamer.

Jokes aside, I'm with those who see RED LIGHTS.

You can't change her, you can only change yourself. You've become engaged to a woman with some BAD BAGGAGE, and that is YOUR mistake. You can play games, risk your life making this your wife in living hell... I don't know if you can overcome your lust for her to get a grip and understand she does not have your back, nor is she 100% for you by playing these games. It's time for some hard ball.

I'd take a "pink slip" and go on a solo vacation.. see family or friends for a long weekend and not talk to her.

When I did arrange to talk to her again, I would give an ultimatim. If she can't give this guy up, you deserve a living hell for sticking with someone who is apparently using you to get back to the one she really LOVES, (but she's so mad at him) and the father of her child.

This is a BAD connection, the sooner cut the sooner you find someone you won't hear about baggage, but you will hear them praise you, defend you, in this case, she should have told her ex to tell his lawyer about it and have the attorney contact her if there's a problem.

Good luck to you.

WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
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I recomend

You take a course in Krav Maga....It will save your life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jnqD8wvyE

For Freedom!

For Freedom!
STUGOTS! To the high and felutent establishment!
Paultian Powerhouse!

Add some Brazillian Jui Jitsu

with that as well and you should be set.

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Lot of broken bones with that combo

For Freedom!

For Freedom!
STUGOTS! To the high and felutent establishment!
Paultian Powerhouse!

My opinion

I think you should have a talk with her..you need to tell her you are on your way to the police station to make a complaint..and you will be calling the cops where he lives to make another one...Cyber threats can also be taken care of by the FBI..(who I also think you should contact)
Tell her you love her..and her kid...and you dont want to hurt either of them..but you also dont want either of them to get hurt..and you are not going to sit back and take threats from anyone..it doesnt matter who it is or who their related too.
Let her know that you are only telling her up front to make sure she can live with you knowing you turned her X in..because if she cant..she needs to say so..but no matter what she says..you are going to do it.
To me..it sounds like shes a bit of an air head not to be worried about her child..herself..and you in this matter...
I would also go ahead another step..if that man gets to see his child..send a copy of the text messages to the Child Protective Services in his area..and a copy to the area she lives in..As much as I hate CPS..in this case...I would be worried about the safty of the child and lack of concern by the mother.
If you do not have the text anymore..call the phone company..tell them you need them ASAP..explain why...
You may also want to contact the FCC...
Good luck..be safe

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Calling the police or CPS

Calling the police often works out very badly. Ditto for Child Protective Services.

Read what samadamscw said. There is a big red light flashing and a siren blaring. Danger! - and not just from the demented ex-husband. (He is an ex-husband, I hope.)

They were never married.

They were never married.

There is zero reason for her to have communication with him

even for custody or support payments. Anything along those lines can be handled with an intermediary without any direct contact.

Since you aren't married yet, you need to acknowledge that when you say "I do" you are saying it to him too until the kid turns 18.

Personally, I'd walk away. If my fiance blew off such a threat, I'd lose interest in her real fast. Men always wonder why women don't leave abusive relationships when all the red flags are flapping in the breeze for anyone to see.

THIS IS A BIG RED FLAG FOR YOU.

1) His threats
2) Her blowing them off and lack of concern over them

Not only is he bad news for you, she is as well.

Her not only blowing him off, but actually making excuses for him speaks volumes about her, her emotional stability, and her ability to sense danger and take it seriously. It also speaks volumes about her true feelings for you which apparently are not yet solidified.

Do as you want, but I'd get far away from both of them and move on.

Another thing for the list

Another thing for the list.

3) She is still in direct contact with him. Why? She still has an attachment. She might even go back to him.