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Shocker! Judge Orders Trial

Arguments planned Jan. 11
for major Obama challenge

By Jerome R. Corsi

A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

In a highly anticipated hearing today before Carter, several motions were heard, including a resolution to long-standing questions about whether attorney Orly Taitz properly served notice on the defendants, which she had.

In a second ruling, Carter ordered that attorney Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation can be added to the case to represent plaintiffs Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson, who had been removed by an earlier court order. Drake, the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party, and Robinson, the party's chairman, also were restored to the case.

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But the judge did not immediately rule on Taitz' motion to be granted discovery – that is the right to see the president's still-concealed records. Nor did Carter rule immediately on a motion to dismiss the case, submitted by the U.S. government, following discussion over Taitz' challenge to the work of a magistrate in the case.

The judge did comment that if there are legitimate constitutional questions regarding Obama's eligibility, they need to be addressed and resolved.

Carter ordered a hearing Oct. 5 on the motion to dismiss and ordered arguments submitted on the issue of discovery.

If the case survives that challenge, a pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 11 and the trial for two weeks later.

The case would be the first time, according to Kreep, that the actual merits of the dispute will have been heard in open court. A multitude of such disputes have been rejected out of hand by various state and federal courts. Even the U.S. Supreme Court repeatedly has rejected urgent appeals to hear the evidence.

The suit alleges Obama is actually a citizen of Indonesia and "possibly still citizen of Kenya, usurping the position of the president of the United States of America and the commander-in-chief."

WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Complicating the situation is Obama's decision to spend sums estimated over $1 million to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest the questions.

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I believe in

Miracles !!!

"Obamney care," Nuff said.

I have a weird feeling.

the NWO would like to change the Constitution so that non Americans can rule.

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COMPLETELY AGREES with you, and he wants your support. Please, support the CAGOP and Arnold

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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

Well, for that to happen,

Well, for that to happen, legitimately, they would need 75% of the State Legislatures on their side. Hopefully they are not that ingrained into our State governments.

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They already rule: Soros, Brzezinski, Kissinger...

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Point...

Why would a puppetmaster desire to become a puppet?

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This is from Orly's blog

it gives a little insight of what is going on.
Appearantly the hearing has been moved to October.

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I want to set the record straight about Mr. Drake, Mr. Robinson, and their attorney Mr. Creep being granted permission to adjoin their case to ours.

Yes, I am one of 48 plaintiffs in this case and I was one of the first to sign on. So far 46 of us have supported Ms. Taitz in her lawsuit. Only 2 plaintiffs have withdrawn and have been causing trouble and distraction by trying to hire a new attorney and sneak back into OUR case. They should have filed their own lawsuit, but they chose to selfishly make waves along with Kreep and his associates. Yesterday’s antics at the hearing by Kreep were disgusting and documented well in this media post:
http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2009/09/08/obama-birthp...

7 of us plaintiff witnesses were there to support Orly and we all rejected Kreep coming into the case during the break to “work it out”. But Kreep refused to back down of course. The judge let him back in ONLY in the name of time and expediency otherwise Kreep and his clients would have been told to take a hike and file their own suit. We all witnessed it and the transcripts would clearly show it. Kreep and his clients got very lucky, but no they just need to let this move forward.

So, here’s where we are (and your future reporting needs to reflect these REALITIES if you keep mentioning Gary Kreep)

1. Yes, Kreep has technically been allowed to enter the case as “co-counsel”, but -

2. Kreep only represents 2 plaintiffs out of 48. Most of the rest of us have retained Ms. Taitz as our attorney and do not recognize Kreep as lead counsel or even co-counsel. He’s just a secondary or sub attorney on the case. Orly is lead counsel and will make all final, binding decisions on behalf of us plaintiffs. Any further attempts to delay these proceedings by Mr. Kreep (he delayed a hearing yesterday from Sept. 11 to Oct. 5), will not be tolerated and we will take all necessary legal action to stop any more of his antics.

3. Ms. Taitz has a large team of experienced attorneys assisting her now. If Mr. Kreep remains on this case he will be expected to give his professional input, but defer to OUR lead attorney, Ms. Taitz and not argue with her in open court.

4. As you may or may not be aware, Mr. Kreep has a horrible reputation in Southern California among grass-roots activists and Patriot groups. His latest court gimmick yesterday was just another in a long string of selfish games that Kreep has been playing. Everyone is on to him here and watching his every move from now on. He will be tarred and feathered if he in any way hurts our case.
His days of damaging Ms. Taitz’ efforts to get to the truth are OVER!

Just a friendly warning to those who continue to support and promote Gary Kreep in this case.

On behalf of the veteran plaintiffs,

Jeff Schwilk

MSgt, USMC (Retired)

Bcc: Plaintiffs

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Meister Eckhart

What I find interesting about this is that

Judge Carter is an ex-marine and has drawn a line in the sand stating that this is a big and important case that he wants to have solved quickly because the troops need to know that our Commander in Chief is eligible to issue lawful orders in this time of war

The mere fact that military reactivation orders have been rescinded based on soldiers stating this as their principle reason of denying orders of reactivation is obvious proof to any soldier that there is something shady going on here

military re-activation orders do not get changed/revoked easily
and the actions of the military choosing to rescind rather than confront is much more telling than any words/slants/smears

The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin - Mark Twain

You are exactly right about the significance!

btw- carter was in the navy!

doh

I thought Marines..
Judge David O. Carter right?

well whichever branch he was in it seems he is a true patriot and that's all that ultimately matter to me!
I mean I'm wanting us to end this quickly to end what first appears as a silly stupid issue that debases the common sense of this country
but the more resistance that is met with this the more validity there is something wrong somewhere that needs to be crushed

The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin - Mark Twain

Better Keep Lucas

Smith under armed guard lock-up.. the best to 'em!

Now then, seems that in this video that it was mentioned of an accelerated court date for fear of his life?

I'd really have to go through it again, poor sound volume and I was only payin' partial attention, sorry.

outside the court house!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLcpp9ysivc&feature=channel_page

Thanks for the clip

Orly is not happy about Gary Kreep being on the case as well.

She said Kreep, Drake and Robinson should do their own case. LOL!
Did she say the judge offered to get it started on friday and Kreep said he needs more time? WTF?

Also Orly seems to be more into the Donofrio theme lately. Obama is not NBC because his father was a British subject.

I really hope this is going well and nobody sabotages the case.
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Meister Eckhart

yes thanks for the vid

is the second part up yet?
as far as the accelerated court date it seems it was mentioned but the then the video was edited - I couldn't really tell but apparently the date is in Oct

The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin - Mark Twain

Finally, Here It Is

"Obama, the REAL KENYAN Birth Certificate, finally 2"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZgHEGP5Y78&feature=response_...

Thanks for the

link, MageesterMixit...
I was impressed with what the honorable Cmdr. Clint Grimes, police officer, had to say...
I hope Lucas Smith, the person who actually "found" the BC, is being heavily-guarded...

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Sure

Here's Part 3 If You Haven't Seen It Yet, I'm just seein' it for the first time writing this:

"OBAMA's REAL KENYAN Birth Certificate, finally - part 3"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmYm9TGrKPM&feature=response_...

Lucas Smith Is In The Video Reading His Story How He Got The BC

this is going to get good and this video needs to be set up on a Digg...he has the birth certificate from Kenya in his hands....

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better than e-bay huh.

part 3, but I'm guess you might of seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmYm9TGrKPM&feature=response_...

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Umm.... I think you wanted to post this on your other post

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I got it on the right one now

TheKingIsComing

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"God is at home, it's we who have gone out for a walk."
Meister Eckhart