Submitted by glad2bdad on Tue, 12/25/2007 - 22:28.
Look at the original post date of this thread people. Dec. 3rd........22 days ago let this one fall off. Thanks. See the real time results on this link
Submitted by clell adams on Tue, 12/25/2007 - 20:36.
About 3 years ago I went to an ITT institute. Most of their professors were still on AOL dialup. Some had one of the other original email services. Even then it had been so long I had forgotten they still existed. Compuserve was one.
I did check out AOL's election poll about a month or two ago. I vividly recall that Ron Paul was not even listed as a choice. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that he's low on their poll.
Submitted by neoconsux on Mon, 12/03/2007 - 01:35.
The problems facing our country are much more severe than 99% of us understand. Case and point. I was being censored from Craigslist.org "Rants & Rage" section for posting pro-Paul material exposing Neocons (my niche) and some 911 info. I've been fighting these people all my life by they way, even before it was in vogue. Ever post was deleted. 100% censorship. So I created a website a few days ago mostly directed towards Christians because it's the Republican Christians who are unwittingly sleeping with the enemy on their path towards a New World Order. If we can educate them, we have a chance and Ron has a chance. Without them, we won't win. (My website: http://zionistneocons.bravehost.com/ ) I'm not anti- Jewish (my mom's ancestors are Spanish Jewish on one side) Religious Jews are even anti Zionists: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ Zionisim is something every Christian should study but sadly, it's not happening. Anyway, CL is owned by a liberal Jewish guy from S.F. He censors most Ron Paul ads and of course my ads. However, some ads are being allowed to slip through (I created multiple accounts as they keep getting deleted) and my site has received over 600 unique visitors in the first 3 days of existence. That's 600 more possible Ron Paul supporters! I encourage everyone to send as many people as they know a link to my website and to post the links found therein on Craigslist.org. Our kids will grow up in a Communist society if these people are not put into check by our constitution! They will do 911 after 911 until we have no more freedom if we don't do something. Here are my 2 favorite links:
Submitted by paulverize on Mon, 12/03/2007 - 01:26.
I made a post here on the forum where I posted the results after I voted, I can not find it anymore, It would be nice to find it to give a time snapshot of how many voted in this in so many hours.
Here's a news flash for you: these polls are completely irrelevant.
Unless you can concretely prove fraud (which is an interesting story but doesn't really benefit the movement to support RP), what do you hope to accomplish by whining that people should waste their time to vote in some unscientific online poll?
Get off your butt and do something USEFUL for the campaign.
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Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical, minority views...Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. - SCotUS, 1995
Submitted by Thundercloud on Mon, 12/03/2007 - 01:45.
Those who understand their irrelevance.
They are a tool for others.
Otherwise there would be no online polls at all.
This year however, the tool isn't supporting what mainstream is saying.
That is important.
Submitted by Tocqueville on Mon, 12/03/2007 - 01:23.
We have enough "keyboard campaigners." Go outside! Get a list of registered Republicans in your area and go door-to-door talking and handing out lit if you want to contribute. That is about the most effective thing you can do to win votes.
Submitted by neoconsux on Mon, 12/03/2007 - 01:46.
I believe that the only way to convert traditional Republicans who have been brainwashed by neocons is to educate them. Preach the truth at church. E-mail them links to websites that do a good job of exposing the neocons for what they are. Most ignorant Republicans think Ron Paul is soft on terrorism but we know nothing could be further from the truth. I've made flyers with the following text and put them on cars parked in church parking lots with good success thus far:
Are you going to allow your kids to grow up in a communist country? If the answer is "Not on my watch", then it's time you start learning the truth the neocon controlled media isn't telling you and start spreading the word. Please join us and help us to fight the good fight! (end)
In my opinion, we need an education revolution in this country more than anything else. When people wake up and learn the truth about our sad state of affairs, they will see that Ron Paul is our only hope.
I agree. Ron Paul supporters have conquered the internet and the straw polls. Now is the time to put boots on the ground in your local neighborhood, your town, etc.
Who would have beleived 10 years ago that an anti gun candidate would be the supposed front runner for the Republican nomination. The answer is that most people don't know Rudy's positions, but only know about him from 9/11.
We are at the point now where 10 minutes handing out literature at your local supermarket is worth as much as 10 hours posting on the internet.
You guys are totally right. THEY won't win this for us. Only we can do that. And it had to be done by real people connecting with real people. WE MUST BECOME THE MSM!!!! And we are doing it, but can we do it quickly enough?
I have been watching this poll since it was under 10k votes, RP has gone down from 14% at around 47k votes to 9% at 95k votes. I now know it is a complete fabrication. We need to set up a forum poll where everyone who has voted for RP on there page can come vote on the forum. With this we can get more acurate numbers and I would bet our numbers wont match their percentages. Infact we should use means to force lies into the open every time. A web page would be better where we can count individuals. Then the frauds could be shown for what they are every time. Their credibility is destroyed and ours in increased.
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The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare
Submitted by J.Malone-TN on Mon, 12/03/2007 - 01:01.
If you refresh the vote results page you can watch the total number of votes go up 500 every 45 to 60 seconds with the same percentage of votes going to certain candidates. It's like it is an automatic counter not anyones actual votes. Just keeps incrementing continually.
Submitted by quiltingsando on Mon, 12/03/2007 - 00:27.
I think that is a phony poll. I voted but I think it is a waste of time. These polls
are really getting stupid and annoying. All the articles are lies. I was wondering do these sights get money from advertisers or some sort of advantage due to all the traffic we generate voting in these polls?
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Submitted by J.Malone-TN on Mon, 12/03/2007 - 00:27.
The poll is like the last debate... ballot stuffing! You can go on there and vote and then go back later and vote again. It's not one vote per IP address. I'm gonna check and see if you can clear cookies or cache and vote again cuz I'm not sure. But I know for a fact that it is letting you vote more than once... because I voted last night and just now clicked the link and it would allow me to vote again tonight. Not a very good poll at all.
~Joe
edit: Ok, I just cleared cookies and went back into the poll page and it will allow you to vote as many times as you want as long as you clear cookies. Just so you know.
How about writing a letter to a Iowa independent Voter?
or passing out slim jims / making phone calls and collecting names to turn out on primary night?
Have been talking to everyone I know and a lot of people I dont know. Have given out about 200 slim jims this week. I think the letter writing is a great idea because my state's primary is march 4th (ouch) and I may be able to do more good writing a letter to someone in a early state
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I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, 1791
Um DUH
Look at the original post date of this thread people. Dec. 3rd........22 days ago let this one fall off. Thanks. See the real time results on this link
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/12/21/straw-poll-...
Baloney
I just checked. Paul was at 41% in Iowa and winning most other states.
Flag!
Look at the date of the post
its a old post needs to be deleted
oops
Thanks doh!
9%? Where? What?
I stil see him winning most of the states in the straw poll.
Run, Ron, Run!
Run, Ron, Run!
Who the hell still uses AOL.
Who the hell still uses AOL. Even my dog was smart enuf to switch .
Average Americans . THAT'S
Average Americans . THAT'S Who. Not tech savy geeks. Average Mom and Pop people.
So NOW what's the reporting going to say? That the "greatest generation" is hacking aol?
Try it.
The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine Godfather of the American Revolution)
hahahaha
About 3 years ago I went to an ITT institute. Most of their professors were still on AOL dialup. Some had one of the other original email services. Even then it had been so long I had forgotten they still existed. Compuserve was one.
In Liberty's Cause
A few years ago
I did check out AOL's election poll about a month or two ago. I vividly recall that Ron Paul was not even listed as a choice. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that he's low on their poll.
AOL owned and controlled by NeoCons
The problems facing our country are much more severe than 99% of us understand. Case and point. I was being censored from Craigslist.org "Rants & Rage" section for posting pro-Paul material exposing Neocons (my niche) and some 911 info. I've been fighting these people all my life by they way, even before it was in vogue. Ever post was deleted. 100% censorship. So I created a website a few days ago mostly directed towards Christians because it's the Republican Christians who are unwittingly sleeping with the enemy on their path towards a New World Order. If we can educate them, we have a chance and Ron has a chance. Without them, we won't win. (My website: http://zionistneocons.bravehost.com/ ) I'm not anti- Jewish (my mom's ancestors are Spanish Jewish on one side) Religious Jews are even anti Zionists: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ Zionisim is something every Christian should study but sadly, it's not happening. Anyway, CL is owned by a liberal Jewish guy from S.F. He censors most Ron Paul ads and of course my ads. However, some ads are being allowed to slip through (I created multiple accounts as they keep getting deleted) and my site has received over 600 unique visitors in the first 3 days of existence. That's 600 more possible Ron Paul supporters! I encourage everyone to send as many people as they know a link to my website and to post the links found therein on Craigslist.org. Our kids will grow up in a Communist society if these people are not put into check by our constitution! They will do 911 after 911 until we have no more freedom if we don't do something. Here are my 2 favorite links:
1) http://www.wanttoknow.info/030316post Bush Sr met with bin Ladens brother the day before 911.
2) NWO Stonehenge: http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/population...
In closing, don't expect polls on neocon owned sites to be honest. It's not in their MO.
Can't find my aol post of the results, can you help me?
I made a post here on the forum where I posted the results after I voted, I can not find it anymore, It would be nice to find it to give a time snapshot of how many voted in this in so many hours.
Why are we wasting our time with this crap?
Here's a news flash for you: these polls are completely irrelevant.
Unless you can concretely prove fraud (which is an interesting story but doesn't really benefit the movement to support RP), what do you hope to accomplish by whining that people should waste their time to vote in some unscientific online poll?
Get off your butt and do something USEFUL for the campaign.
Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical, minority views...Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. - SCotUS, 1995
They are only irrelevant to
Those who understand their irrelevance.
They are a tool for others.
Otherwise there would be no online polls at all.
This year however, the tool isn't supporting what mainstream is saying.
That is important.
"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k
Amen
We have enough "keyboard campaigners." Go outside! Get a list of registered Republicans in your area and go door-to-door talking and handing out lit if you want to contribute. That is about the most effective thing you can do to win votes.
Door to door
I believe that the only way to convert traditional Republicans who have been brainwashed by neocons is to educate them. Preach the truth at church. E-mail them links to websites that do a good job of exposing the neocons for what they are. Most ignorant Republicans think Ron Paul is soft on terrorism but we know nothing could be further from the truth. I've made flyers with the following text and put them on cars parked in church parking lots with good success thus far:
Short version:
BIBLE WARNINGS FOR THE LAST DAYS!
http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/html2/jm0014a.htm
http://zionistneocons.bravehost.com/
Are you going to allow your kids to grow up in a communist country? If the answer is "Not on my watch", then it's time you start learning the truth the neocon controlled media isn't telling you and start spreading the word. Please join us and help us to fight the good fight! (end)
In my opinion, we need an education revolution in this country more than anything else. When people wake up and learn the truth about our sad state of affairs, they will see that Ron Paul is our only hope.
Door to Door
I agree. Ron Paul supporters have conquered the internet and the straw polls. Now is the time to put boots on the ground in your local neighborhood, your town, etc.
Who would have beleived 10 years ago that an anti gun candidate would be the supposed front runner for the Republican nomination. The answer is that most people don't know Rudy's positions, but only know about him from 9/11.
We are at the point now where 10 minutes handing out literature at your local supermarket is worth as much as 10 hours posting on the internet.
jmeagan
You guys are totally right.
You guys are totally right. THEY won't win this for us. Only we can do that. And it had to be done by real people connecting with real people. WE MUST BECOME THE MSM!!!! And we are doing it, but can we do it quickly enough?
www.paulforronpaul.com
follow the money
who owns aol?
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
FourWindsTradingPost
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
FourWindsTradingPost
Time Warner
Owns AOL.
Time is faulty.
_________________________________
Freedom - Peace - Prosperity
A Scam
I have been watching this poll since it was under 10k votes, RP has gone down from 14% at around 47k votes to 9% at 95k votes. I now know it is a complete fabrication. We need to set up a forum poll where everyone who has voted for RP on there page can come vote on the forum. With this we can get more acurate numbers and I would bet our numbers wont match their percentages. Infact we should use means to force lies into the open every time. A web page would be better where we can count individuals. Then the frauds could be shown for what they are every time. Their credibility is destroyed and ours in increased.
The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare
Very Bad Poll
If you refresh the vote results page you can watch the total number of votes go up 500 every 45 to 60 seconds with the same percentage of votes going to certain candidates. It's like it is an automatic counter not anyones actual votes. Just keeps incrementing continually.
~Joe
This is a good thing, here's why:
Someone may choose to cite this poll, as proof of Rudy's viability as a candidate.
And if this poll is viable. So are many others. You know the ones.
The ones that Ron Paul won.
"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k
I'm sorry but
I think that is a phony poll. I voted but I think it is a waste of time. These polls
are really getting stupid and annoying. All the articles are lies. I was wondering do these sights get money from advertisers or some sort of advantage due to all the traffic we generate voting in these polls?
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
It's not true numbers
The poll is like the last debate... ballot stuffing! You can go on there and vote and then go back later and vote again. It's not one vote per IP address. I'm gonna check and see if you can clear cookies or cache and vote again cuz I'm not sure. But I know for a fact that it is letting you vote more than once... because I voted last night and just now clicked the link and it would allow me to vote again tonight. Not a very good poll at all.
~Joe
edit: Ok, I just cleared cookies and went back into the poll page and it will allow you to vote as many times as you want as long as you clear cookies. Just so you know.
multi vote
I voted on this poll a couple days ago. Looks to me like you can vote once a day. The true spammers are Goulianiites.
Instead of voting in an online poll
How about writing a letter to a Iowa independent Voter?
or passing out slim jims / making phone calls and collecting names to turn out on primary night?
good call.
doing that right now.
ron paul 2008
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signed up to write letters today. awaiting addresses
Have been talking to everyone I know and a lot of people I dont know. Have given out about 200 slim jims this week. I think the letter writing is a great idea because my state's primary is march 4th (ouch) and I may be able to do more good writing a letter to someone in a early state
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, 1791
Rigged
This vote is rigged. I think the total was up near 100k votes a few days ago and now it's at 80k. Don't waste your time.
voted
done