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Will the Anti-War Spirit of Our Ranks Rise Up? 9/12, A Call to Action

I will certainly be heading up to 9/12 event tomorrow in my States Capital and I am writing to you all for your support. If you are not planning to attend a Tea Party in your area or have chosen to participate please finish this note and comment if I have your support. It has been my observation as it has many of you that our movement may be on the verge of being hijacked by the likes of Glenn Beck and Fox News, who would like to distract us from one of the major causes of the collapse of our economy due to government largess. This of course is our foreign policy abroad. What I am asking from those who want liberty to flourish in this country again is to put out the word that I will be in attendance ONLY supporting the message that we must return our troops home from the countries they now occupy abroad as they are involved in illegal wars. The people of this country has subsidized the government through our tax dollars to destroy the lives of millions of innocent abroad in an unjust action. The Constitution at Tea Party events has been thrown around a lot. Let's remind them what the Constitution says about the subject of declaring war. Let us see our allies come forward. Though I begin this campaign late, your spontaneous support and spreading of this action will be greatly appreciated.

Please Spread the Word!

Peace,

-Will

Here are the details for my local event
KANSAS CAPITAL 912 RALLY !!!
Topeka, Kansas
Saturday, September 12, 2009
11:00 a.m./ Evening
Garfield Park
1600 No. Kansas Avenue



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I went to an event today. I

I went to an event today. I listened to a good speech by Randy Brogdon for Oklahoma Governor, his slogan was "no strings attached" meaning that he wants to sever the dependencies our state has on the Federal Government. And he outlined the 18 enumerated powers the Federal Government has in the Constitution. He also said that he was not a proponent for "change" but instead he wanted to see a restoration take place in America. I think it is a good vision.

I didn't get a chance to, but I want to ask Mr Brogdon if he becomes governor would he use his authority and his desire to separate from the federal government to bring all Oklahoma National Guard troops home from any foreign engagement unless the Federal Congress has an actual declaration of war?

The rest of the speakers at the rally really turned me off, one of them thanked the media and talk show host for reporting the truth (pretty much an obvious reference to Fox News, Hannity, Beck, etc). Most of them were obviously media mind-washed neo-cons. Several were going on and on about how our soldiers are out there defending our freedom. I appreciate our soldiers and all that, but we don't need to be perpetuating the premise that this illegal war is protecting anything. It's just killing our soldiers, killing innocent people, and driving our country further and further in to financial oblivion.

My mistake today was I showed up at the last minute, with no plan and no support. Next time I hope to go with at least a plan to get the message out: end the fed, end the war, return to constitutional governance.

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I agree. My sign for all tea parties and

anti-fed demonstrations:

THE FED FUNDS
ENDLESS DEBT
& ENDLESS WARS

Today's Tea Parties....

Of what I have seen of today's Tea Parties in the media and on the web, there were no Anti-War signs or sentiments against Obama's and Bush's Wars. Though, I did see lots of messages of the US debt and how the US is going broke with all the money Congress is spending.

I think the best way to convert these Neo-Con Republicans that were at the Tea Parties today is to show them that the US can no longer afford this interventionist foreign policy. We either bring the troops home by choice or be forced to bring them home when the country is bankrupt. Like Dr. Paul would say "All empires end, end badly, for economic reasons, because you can't afford them."

Ron Paul 2012 for Peace

Rand Paul 2016 for Peace

The worst part about the fact that "we aren't supporting

the troops" is that there are more contract workers (like Blackwater) in Afghanistan than there are troops. Contract workers getting paid sometimes 10 times more than the average soldier. Who are we not supporting again?

That's another point to bring up to thick headed neo-cons.

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Mercenaries and War Profiteers

Video banned from being shown in Congress....

http://www.wimp.com/videobanned/

and also see this thread on Blackwater (XE)

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/102069

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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Two Excellent points

I can attest to a lot of the footage from Iraq for sale from first hand accounts. Contract workers and military dumping piles and piles perfectly good equipment in fields in Kuwait. The waste and pollution will have the left and the right rolling in horror. Its amazing that a case so well exposed as this barely gets any leverage in this country. The media could spend the entire year on the subject. Sigh...

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LatinsforRonPaul...like this

a good article to help connect foreign policy and economy..

please see:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/106219#comment-1161457

there is much more in that article if you click on the link to read the full piece!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Great article, thanks...

I have sent this one to both Republicans and Democrats so they can see the real cost of WAR. I am also hoping that Libertarian John Stossell brings his Anti-War message to FOX when he gets there next week.

Ron Paul 2012 for Peace

Rand Paul 2016 for Peace

We were represented there

Trying to see what the media has been saying about the march on Washington I've been watching the news since I've been home from work and CNN was actually showing people with AKs and handguns and trying to put a dark spin on the people who are there not just against the health care reform.Which I'm pretty sure were a large part of them.
Pretty disapointing reporting but not unusual from CNN.Then the shocker, the media guy had on a gentleman from Oklahoma who he tried at first to make look stupid but this guy was great, his name was Art something;he laid out everything about the unconstitutional things the governent is doing.He even said it goes back to when the Senators started getting elected in a popular vote instead of by the states,so now they don't look out for the states just the fed. He spoke of the 18 responsibilities of the fed gov and that was all they were allowed by the states to do.He also said what those people want that he(the reporter) spoke of as a dark side to the tea party movement was a return to the gov they had 100 years ago.It was great!
It was on at 5 if anyone can YouTube it.
We are being represented there and the message is getting out no matter who is providing the bullhorn.People are waking up.
I don't trust Beck or Hannity but the message is out there and hey "Freedom is popular and unites people".

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees...

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees...

What?

To the best of my understanding, the Tea Party events and the 9/12 movement are being promoted by Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, people who were hostile in the degree to the true freedom represented by Ron Paul. Ergo, what they want is not the same type of freedom that we want, but rather a return to the militaristic, anti-constitutional status quo of the Bush administration.

Sorry, but I can't support anyone of that ilk.

What do you suggest be done then?

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Well jeez..thats why we need to have a presence there!!

Or are we just going to whine about it and argue about it?

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

What if?

We showed up like this

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/libertybelle_photos/Ma...

at these tea party events armed with signage and education materials about non interventionist foreign policies!??

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Exactly ;)

We need that spirit. We need the media to go to one of these events and wonder what in the world is going on. I've got about 3 large RP signs like the one at the head of that crowd. Imagine if the shots from above captured a bunch of those. That would be a message that resonates.

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www.ivaw.org/operation-recovery - Stop Deploying Traumatized Troops

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Support our troops...Bring them home.

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees...

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees...

"Just Come Home"

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Something about these protesters...

...the vast majority wouldn't last 5 minutes in a serious intellectual debate with a Paul supporter. Believe me - I've tried. Therein lies the major difference - education far beyond MsM news headlines.

There's clearly a bandwagon rolling and millions of people are jumping on board...we've just got to find a way to infiltrate and educate.

Weenis

You're right! And the sad thing is, we've forgotten the number one rule of grassroots organization. Show up!

How many of us would be better equipped to educate some of these folks if we just showed up. Somehow we need to tap into what made the RP campaign great and get people out there. I remember how hard it was before when we had at times nobody, motivating the same people just to keep showing up and we did. Now we have legions who would potentially support the message and maybe a handful of RP folks in the mix. Showing up is really our weakness at this time and the reason we are allowing others to represent our views on the situation at hand. It doesn't have to be this way.

Watch over 400 Activist-Issue Films Online, www.filmsforaction.org

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
www.yaliberty.org - Young Americans for Liberty
www.ivaw.org/operation-recovery - Stop Deploying Traumatized Troops

Weenis..infiltrate and educate

EXACTLY...see here ..further down this post

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/106551#comment-1163559

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Until we return to our roots.

Seriously, how many hospitals could be buildt with the money we spend on the military industrial complex?
Not that I am in favor of national health care, but it is amazing how many people shout socialism when the issue comes to light. Yet when it comes to our socialistic military, few rise in protest.
We need to stop depending on the government to protect us. We can do so as individuals, we do not need the Pentagon, we do not need a national guard, and we do not need to fear. What we need are well regulated State militias, made up of voluteering individuals who have to right to bear arms. If we do not follow the Constitution, what good is it? May just as well return to the Declaration of Independence and exercise our soveign rights.
grant

Go Will !!! Bring them home,

Go Will !!!

Bring them home, Bring them all home!

Thank you for the refocus!

Thanks for the support folks

Hope everyone gets out there and does the same.
Just back from the event. Once I get some video done I'll be sure
to post and blog about my experience. Let's just say that we have our work
cut out for us.

Watch over 400 Activist-Issue Films Online, www.filmsforaction.org

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
www.yaliberty.org - Young Americans for Liberty
www.ivaw.org/operation-recovery - Stop Deploying Traumatized Troops

I'm looking forward to your insight

yeah, they are trying to link what we started to the pro-war republicans. It's a quandry, on one hand we need their support to get rid of Obamacare and return to smaller government, but how much pragmatism can we really harness when they fly in the face of our non interventionist foreign policy plank.

I'm not sure we have to give up ground

Though I agree with you, it is happening. We have people running for us who have done it. It makes it difficult when so much is at stake. I think the energy of their movement will remain even if they steer to a more humble stance on wars abroad. Today I received no hostility, in fact, someone who I have never met before had a nice conversation to me with my anti-war shirt and sign in my hand. He apparently met someone I was with at the last action we had locally. It was because we showed up to that event that a connection was made. He had no knee jerk reaction to me because he recognized that I was fighting for a similar cause. Of course there is more to the story but overall if people were disturbed by my presence, they didn't confront me on it. I clapped at many of the same things they did. They will become accustomed to us and the great thing is that we have the moral high ground and the Constitution on our side.

Watch over 400 Activist-Issue Films Online, www.filmsforaction.org

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
www.yaliberty.org - Young Americans for Liberty
www.ivaw.org/operation-recovery - Stop Deploying Traumatized Troops

Nice

That's great, I'm not surprised though, we just need to keep pushing on, get them used to seeing us everywhere, because, well, we are everywhere!

great job

Furlough..in case you missed

* http://www.dailypaul.com/node/106551#comment-1163559

I'm glad to see you supporting this...we really need some action ,some pro-active planned concerted efforts!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Bump! For a Call to Action!

* I am hoping more of us will support this effort at future tea party events.
We have to try to make our stand and help awaken /educate these tea party people on non interventionist foreign policy !!

Bane will give us an update on how his signs are recieved today by the tea party crowd!

Peace!

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Boy o Boy...is the 912 distraction crew out in force or what ?

912 this and 912 that...Beck this and Beck that...ha...ha...ha.

No...Beck is not trying to hijack the movement...his handlers designed and launched it. Man are they panicing now...cause it isn't working !!!

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