George Will Abandons the War Party
George Will Abandons the War Party
By Jack Hunter "The Southern Avenger"
A year ago this week, I wrote the following concerning liberal Democrat Joe Lieberman being invited to speak at the 2008 Republican National Convention and conservative Republican Ron Paul being shut out: "If you are pro-gun control, pro-socialized healthcare, pro-choice, pro-amnesty, all of these liberal positions can be tolerated so long as you are pro-war. If you are a staunch conservative on virtually every issue, if you're not pro-war, you're no longer welcome in the Republican Party." The name of my piece was "The War Party" and that's exactly what the GOP was in September 2008.
What a difference a year makes. Lieberman has gone back to being the loyal Democrat for the most part, and the only war the Right seems excited about is their own against President Obama and his agenda. Well, at least most of it.
When columnist George Will called for the removal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan last week, he made his case using the type of hard-headed realism that used to define conservatism. "[N]ation-building would be impossible even if we knew how," Will writes. "If U.S. forces are there to prevent reestablishment of Al Qaeda bases — evidently there are none now — must there be nation-building invasions of Somalia, Yemen, and other sovereignty vacuums?
"U.S. forces are being increased by 21,000, to 68,000, bringing the coalition total to 110,000," he adds. "Counterinsurgency theory concerning the time and the ratio of forces required to protect the population indicates that, nationwide, Afghanistan would need hundreds of thousands of coalition troops, perhaps for a decade or more. That is inconceivable."
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Yes ...it seems
that now that a democrap is in the White House the war is a bad idea....Hmmmm, I expect as the situation gets worse there will be more of this sort of thing from populist minded republicons that did not have the stones to say anything when the NeoCons were running the show. Question is, how long will it be before the Faux NeoCon crowd of Limbaugh, Hannity, Levine, and Weiner begin to feel the pressure?
When they do, they will NOT come out and say the war is bad...and was a scam from the beginning. They Will say that it was good when it was Bush's war and that Obama and the Dems just mucked it up...So, we need to bring back the Republicon NeoCons so that they can show us how to really fight the evil doers.
Millions will buy it....sadly.
the cycle is
predictably circular.
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
Strategic retreat is not peace
He's smarter and more candid than most war apologists, but I do not think he has reformed. His arguments are wholey practical rather than ethical. Basically he is saying, well that didn't work, so let's not do it any more. That is a very shaky foundation for a non-interventionist ideology.
makes you wonder why they didn't consider this
before we lost one marine there.
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
Here's the video -
Here's the video - SA@Takimag - George Will Leaves the War Party
"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820
Wasnt it Will
That was in the 'New Hope' video saying 'You dont have to be ashamed to be anti-war and conservative. What he is saying is you must be anti-war to be conservative.'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ
'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul
P.Nicholson...No...he is saying the opposite
Most people here don't read the full article in the OP but it is necessary to get the full context... see at the end he says:
"As Obama's popularity wanes and support for his war plummets, now is the time to make the case that American soldiers shouldn't be the world's policeman, liberal utopianism is not sound foreign policy, and nation-building is not conservative. George Will has and serious conservatives should follow suit. "
**** This is the message we need people to awaken to...so this is a good positive advance!!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Belle..
I think you misread what I was writing.
In the video 'A New Hope' that Eliberty did, wasnt Will in it explaining why Paul believed in the anti-war conservative.
Lets hope will lends hisself to our movement. Not holding my breath but he is a very respected man. Thats why the venom directed at him was so vicious by talk radio douchebags.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ
'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul
Sorry...I did misread!
I think it was this line threw me off...
"What he is saying is you must be anti-war to be conservative.'?
Peace!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Now that it's fashionable....sure!
Since he's not a stupid man, I'd assume that since it's become unfashionable to be a War Party afficionado, he conveniently comes 'round to seeing the light!
"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry
"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry
fashionable
Yes. That's it!
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
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oh yes
It comes with an Ed Hardy Tshirt, Gucci sunglasses and a bud light with the Kung Fu GRIP!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ
'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul
Hey don't miss this good article! Southern Avenger!!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Thank you for posting this...excellent!!
I love the Southern Avenger!! This is a good reality check article..
excerpt...
"As Obama's popularity wanes and support for his war plummets, now is the time to make the case that American soldiers shouldn't be the world's policeman, liberal utopianism is not sound foreign policy, and nation-building is not conservative. George Will has and serious conservatives should follow suit. "
"*****
"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd