Bin Laden's Confession...
Praise be to Allah who created the creation for his worship and commanded them to be just and permitted the wronged one to retaliate against the oppressor in kind. To proceed:
Peace be upon he who follows the guidance: People of America this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal way to prevent another Manhattan, and deals with the war and its causes and results.
Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom. If so, then let him explain to us why we don't strike for example— Sweden? And we know that freedom-haters don't possess defiant spirits like those of the 19— may Allah have mercy on them.
No, we fight because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall we lay waste to yours.
No one except a dumb thief plays with the security of others and then makes himself believe he will be secure. Whereas thinking people, when disaster strikes, make it their priority to look for its causes, in order to prevent it happening again.
But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events of September 11th, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real causes. And thus, the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred.
So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken, for you to consider.
Has anyone found a transcript of the Sep 13 2009?
Our state media has only released little bits and I have not seen the English full version. I'd like to know what he really said, in full, without any spin. My searches are turning up nothing.
Well. That sums it up right there.
I know Osama is a CIA asset and quite possibly dead, but it's fun to see what they come up with. It really helps drive the official fairy tale home.
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dead since dec 21st 2001
dead since dec 21st 2001 (suprisingly just a few days before this 1st confession video was leaked)
I'm fairly certain Sadam Hussien was dead long before we "captured" him also, that or he has some mirical hair growth syrum that can give you 5-6 years of facial hair growth in a matter of a few months.
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“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
I think they used the same actor they used for Pablo Escobar
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Lies Lies Lies.
Well since everyone else is feeding the troll I guess it'll be alright if I bump this thread one more time.
9/11 family member tells 9/11 was and inside job and demolition was rigged to blow up the buildings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkDzikztPiI
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I see posts like this as a
I see posts like this as a chance to sharpen my debate, and often it prompts me to do further research where I thought I had done enough.
nothing bad here..
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
Well I've learned all I need to learn
About it. Everything at this point is regurgitation. Action is needed at this point.
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the only action we have is
the only action we have is to spread awareness, there are too few "on our side" at the moment.
but I agree, it does get tedious, debating a topic you have long ago taken as a forgone conclusion.
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
phew
I still smell troll shit
or, Bin Laden's non-confession
http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_19.htm
"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2c2933%2c34440%2c00.html
This is an easy one....
Of course, right away he made a statment denying 911, because his host country goverment were about to lose everything just for harboring him. There is alot of study saying that the Taliban didnt know that Bin Laden would bring them so much trouble! But according to Pashtun Wali (the cultural code of the area) once they accept a guest (ie Bin Laden), they have to defend him with their life, regardless of how much pain he brought them. However, as soon as he, Bin Laden, was ousted, he then made NUMERSOUS "confessions"... There are tons of tapes and transcipts of Bin Laden or Wahiri making the confession (well after 01')! Not just that fuzy confession in December. I posted on before and its OBVIOUSLY not a fake. Then there is a tape of Bin Laden with Zawahiri while Zawahiri is making his references to their connections. This one is really not much of a question to most people.
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Bin Ladin died dec 21st
Bin Ladin died dec 21st 2001, this confession was not him, the man in the tape is wearing a gold ring, thats like tatooing WHORE on your forehead for a wasabi (bad spelling of his religion) also, how did he, in less than a couple of months, put on 40lbs, make his nose shorter, change his beard color AND COME BACK FROM THE DEAD?
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
Hereyago dipshit...
http://www.thepentacon.com/
"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
We have a dipshit now?
Can I be dipshit01 .LOL !!!
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
Daily Mail Online
"Has Osama Bin Laden been dead for seven years - and are the U.S. and Britain covering it up to continue war on terror?"
Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212851/Has-Osama-Bi...
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If that confession is a fake, then what about?!......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2...
Wow!!! Now thats pretty damn obvious to me!!! Oh but thats just a fake too! You guys are idiots... For every "website" or "scholar" that you have, there are thousands that speak of your idiocy. We have the national geographic video, purdue and columbia university, the president of the most prestigious structural engineering university in the US, History Channel, Popular Mechanics (magazine), skeptic magazine, Rolling Stone, New York Times ALLLL saying that truthers are plain illogical and you throw out anything that doesnt fit your conclusions and only take the parts that fit. I posted a link that had like 200 witnesses that a plane hit the pentagon and you dismissed it and then some one posted a video of a freaking taxi driver saying a plane DIDNT hit and then you guys were like "OOOH YEAH!!! Thats the most conclusive video tape Ive ever seen!!!!" like fumbling idiots!!!
Next, I discussed how Purdue explained the towers falling so well and all you produced on Zero (film) was a guy speaking about the Windsor tower burning, yet the Windsor tower would have been thrown out in any court because it had a massive steel and cement center colum, while WTC had none of that! Yet, Zero also didnt show that the top of the building did collapse!! Oh but Zero is conclusive because ONE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER SAID SO!! OOOOH!!!
You know what, show me all your links and all your "experts" and I will create a list of HUNDREDS of journals, experts, websites and all around credible people disproving your 911 truth religion.
Here is a great quote I just read... Oh how so true!!!!:
How Skeptics Confronted 9/11 Denialism
by John Ray
...Yet, in just under four years, the 9/11 “truth movement” has ground to a halt. Apart from the fundamental incoherence of their theories, the downfall of the 9/11 denier juggernaut was good old-fashioned skepticism at its finest, the kind that conjures visions of James Randi challenging psychics and faith healers on their home turfs and winning. Skeptics are better at their jobs than they think, and its important to give credit where credit is due.
Staking their fortunes almost solely on Internet-based content may have been the 9/11 deniers’ biggest mistake. What seems like a perfect place for pseudoscience — the Internet is un-edited, without fact-checkers or minimum publishing standards of any kind — also became a perfect place for a rapid-response system of blogs and forums to fight back. Drawing on the freely available technical information from the NIST, FEMA, and academic journals which most colleges let their students access for free, skeptical sites like ScrewLooseChange.blogspot.com and debunking911.com are able to defuse 9/11 denier claims as they arise...
Keep up the good work RPLives!! You seem like a logical person, dont let the loonies get you down! I know, it was hard for me to swallow at first, but you should take back this website. You dont see this many morons posted on lewrockwell.com, because you are not even allowed to post an article unless it is intelligent there. You should either go there or fight back to retake this website. Thanks buddy!
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Very misinoformed soul.
You have a right to believe in whatever you want that is freedom.
However I will say one thing if you think for a second that the history channel, national geographic, popular mechanics and the rest are legitimate sources that's funny as hell. These people that own these rags are the same people that gave you your government. You can only be shown the door to truth it's up to you to walk through it. Bin Laden isn't even charged by the fbi for 9/11 because they don't have enough evidence. Plus this CIA agent has been dead for years fool !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
She was killed a month later.
911 was an inside job. You think 19 suadis with box cutters made NORAD stand down? You think they orchestrated this from a cave in Afghanistan? You think there is a santa claus?
OK have your dreams...
Maybe one day you will awaken from your TV brainwashed dream. One can hope.
You are a misguided soul....
Trusting everything the goverment tells you, makes you a fool and very naive, but disbelieving everything the government says, does not make you a patriot. I would understand if came here defending NatGeo because NatGeo litterally had a NatGeo staff member telling the audience "911 was not an inside job, dont believe that because we say so....", but thats not what happened. They had EXPERTS do the talking for them. But thats not where I get most of my information from. I get my information from people, who are people just like me and you, and take the time to write blogs, do HOURS of research debunking 911 truthers. Besides that, where is your evidence that NatGeo is owned by the government?! Cummon, man, thats rediculous...
... You see, I always try to do reverse psychology and reverse questioning and ask you if all my sources are wrong, then where do you get yours? From yourself?! Or from loose change, ae911truth.com, scholars, infowars, coast 2coast AM, etc, etc, etc blah blah... I can say the same thing to you!
The bottom line for my belief is the unanswered questions in your theory. What about the fact that thermite was never found or even proven to do the damage that you believe it can!? Thermite has been proven that it cant melt steel and there is no evidence that it was found.
NORAD WAS NEVER TOLD TO STAND DOWN!!! Its a myth, I can prove it!
Dick Cheney was never in charge of NORAD, its a myth, Ive already proven it in earlier posts
Planes cant be taken down with 19 people with box cutters? Really? How racist can you be? Unadvanced Zulus defeated the Dutch, the rag tag army of Afghans defeated the 2nd most mighty Army on Earth (ie The Soviets).. Thats a propostorous claim...
... Using logic is why I CANT believe in this MASSIVE conspiracy is because IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AS MUCH AS IT IS OBVIOUS, that this type of conspiracy would take over 3000-6000 people AT LEAST!!!! So dont you think that out of ALL those people, whom most would not be Bilderburg members, but rather salaried/payrolled workers, that SOMEONE and SOMETHING of hard evidence would leak?!?!?!?! Cummon!! Its childish and silly! That would be the hardest secret in the universe and ALL of history to keep and its just plain improbible and unlikely and there is ZERO hard evidence of it and that, my friend, is a fact.
And what about the "fake" plane? What, do you think that the people in the planes and the "terrorists" are all hiding in a CIA prison some where? Why would some Jihadists take their lives HELPING BUSH!!! That is rediculous, brother.
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Oh yeah, I forgot...
Bin Laden is on the FBI's most wanted list.. That came from Inforwars and Loose Change, so that proves you are getting your info from sources that are just as questionable as anything that I view. I can prove to you that Alex Jones has given fallicy after fallicy after misquoted info as well as plain debunked claims such as Odigo texting Israelis to leave the towers. That has been debunked. There were no Odigo employees in the Twin Towers (but there were Israelis that died).
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lordindra..I guess you weren't being sincere?
You said you would read this ...I left a few requests for you below that also..no response.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/106753#comment-1167057
"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
You got me....
.. Im sorry, you have my apology. I admit (as I am not a perfect person and dont claim to be), that I was taking the path of least resistance. I have had dozens and dozens of responses and I admit that I tackled what I considered the easiest ones. I have to clock out of work now and I am tired, so I will get to it tomorrow. But on a side note, I dont claim to know everything. You may have something interesting, but that doesnt mean one way or the other. I give you my word I will give you my attention tomorrow and make up for my mistake, Belle, my good woman;-)
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Ok..I don't claim to know everything either
* so I mainly try to focus on an obvious need for a new investigation!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
911 Truth has ground to a halt...
Yet apparently a referendum will be on the ballot in New York for an independent subpoena empowered investigation...we will see how ground down it is...
What happened to Building 7? In your own words please...
"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
I dont have the time to put it ALL in my own words.....
I can only use logic when I debate. I dont claim to be an expert and thats why I use them. If we want to debate with just our own logic and us being real with each other about not claiming to be experts than thats fine. In my opinion, Building 7 didnt have any significants. Dont you think if it was a massive conspiracy, wouldnt they do a better job of having someone knock it down? Why not have a car bomb or a plane it? Why just mysteriously "puff" and its knocked down? It doesnt even seem necessary! Thats my logic, but here is an experts opinion:
Structure Magazine explains one probable cause of the WTC 7 collapse. "Single Point of Failure: How the Loss of One Column May Have Led to the Collapse of WTC 7"
http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz...
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Show us the plane parts from.....
....the Pentagon and Shanksville.
Planes don't vaporize and Titanium engine parts certainly DO NOT vaporize.
Yes, if it were mostly "titanium"...
Much of a plane is made of aluminum. But anyway, there is another picture much easier to find of of colored plane wreckage on google you can just google "plane debris pentagon 911" and you will see a tattered plane logo outside the pentagon, unburned. Here is better evidense. By the way, my father has worked at Boeing, here in Seattle for 35 years and I asked him alot about this.
http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm
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Rense problems.
He mentions "a large turbofan engine" found amongst the debris. I've never seen pictures of it though I've searched at length on the web. I've seen the typical picture of a rotor with no fins on it. Certainly the fins would be removed from the rotor upon impact yet the fact remains that there just isn't enough evidence to convince me (not that I'm anybody) that a huge 757 hit the Pentagon.
I saw the landing gear picture- that looks convincing. But a landing gear to what aircraft? There's no scale to determine its size.
Witnesses- where are the witnesses? Many people had to have seen something hit the Pentagon.
The argument that the aluminum vaporized? Nice try. Not at the temperatures of jet fuel. A "military type" said the aluminum burns. It does? Melted, yes. Vaporized? What do people think this is- some video game? It's difficult to understand how tons and tons of airplane can just vaporize....in seconds.
The other problem is the video of the supposed crash. Like thousands of other people have said- "you mean to tell me the Pentagon didn't have a better video of the crash than the 2 frames we get to see?!" Yes, I know about the other videos which they supposedly have refused to release.
See, we are just different people, but have similar ways of....
Thinking, me and you. I like the way you question. I am the same way (who am I, right?) about reasoning, just in opposite directions. I believe the obvious (terrorists) BECAUSE I just dont see enough evidence to believe in a conspiracy. If I did think there was (and I did for a while when Loose Change first came out) enough credible evidence, then I would belief and/or open my mind even more.
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On the other hand...
....I used to believe the typical story about the attacks based on the evidence that was presented through the media and the govt.
After reviewing the evidence for the attacks being other than the accepted notion I've come to the conclusion that the attacks were as follows;
1. A remote controlled plane smashed into one of the towers. Before impacting the tower a missile was fired from under the aircraft. The aircraft that hit the tower wasn't a commercial airliner.
2. Both towers were brought down with explosives.
3. The Pentagon wasn't hit with the 757. Look, I'm not that stupid to understand jet fuel doesn't vaporize aluminum. Everything burns...at a certain temperature. But you're not going to burn aluminum with jet fuel.
There should be a lot more debris than just a few pieces that we're always shown.
4. The Shanksville flight was shot down and the debris was scattered over a 6 mile area like the witnesses say it was. Where is the debris at the crash site? Jets don't just bury themselves in the ground, mysteriously vaporize and leave a small crater. In any other situation that place would be a "super-fund" site and all of the dirt and plane debris would have been excavated.
Michael Ruppert's book, Crossing the Rubicon, pretty well explains why 911 happened. You can also hear Ruppert's explanaton about 911at Archive.org and search for Michael Ruppert "CIA, Drugs, Wall Street and 911"
In summary, the evidence I've seen now favors a different story other than the standard line. Any evidence that can disprove what I now believe will always be considered and used to change my mind in the ever discovering of the truth.
Have daddy boeing boeing verify...
No plane phones on Flt. 77...
"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece