School threatens 4th grader after she refuses pledge of allegiance
Remember what "they" are asking you to pledge allegiance to? Is it to the corporation called THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
Why should someone be forced (via punishment by failure of classes) to have allegiance to a fictitious corporation that has been running amuck since 1859.
This is a 4409 exclusive..first interview with the nine year old Phoenix 4th grader who was threatened with class failure by her teacher if she did not put her hand over her heart and sing the pledge of allegiance
Samantha, a brave Phoenix 4th grade school student refused to sing the pledge of allegiance because she did not feel comfortable pledging allegiance to a war flag that promoted violence and aggresion towards others.
The teacher then threatens the young girl with class failure if she did not participate with the other students.
Samamtha stood her ground and the school was actually forced to call the Pentagon for clarification on the two flags!
I'm pretty sure Samantha has allegiance....but only to the Original [u]nited State of America and the civill flag which goes with it.
Please visit this link for info about the two different flags -- http://www.barefootsworld.net/uscivilflag.html
Samantha, a brave Phoenix 4th grade school student refused to sing the pledge of allegiance because she did not feel comfortable pledging allegiance to a war flag that promoted violence and aggresion towards others.
The teacher then threatens the young girl with class failure if she did not participate with the other students.
Samamtha stood her ground and the school was actually forced to call the Pentagon for clarification on the two flags!
Samantha stated that she would sing the pledge of allegiance with the civil peace flag that was hung in honor
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Feature-Article.htm?Info=0071...
I and my friends
refused to salute the flag starting in 1968. We went to school in Phoenix, South Mtn High, & our refusal was based on the fact that there was NO "Liberty & Justice for ALL."
It's pretty hard at these Republican gatherings to not salute. The best I can do is to stand, but not say the pledge. There are just too many people out there who would brand you unAmerican to not salute & we're still trying to take over the GOP.
Military or Civilian Flag?
Here is the research I and others have done. This is a FREE download pdf file. Enjoy!
http://www.svpvril.com/Military.pdf
You cite no proof the "civil" flag ever existed
There is nothing in your document to back up the assertion that there was ever another official flag. According to what you wrote, there should be vertical stripe versions of all star configurations (18 of them) before the civil war. Yet not one has ever been brought forth as evidence. People would have had their own personal flags of this type, yet no one even today, comes forth with a specimen. Because it never existed.
There is no documentation that a separate "civil" or "peace" flag was ever authorized by Congress or the President.
There is nothing in your document to back up the assertion that the use of the civil flag was ended. (nor that it started)
You provide a legal opinion on the "fringe" which states that IT IS NOT AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE FLAG, and then proceed to spout gobbledegook on maritime law based on the fringe meaning it is allegedly a different flag. Did you not catch your own contradiction?
Is she now considered
a domestic terrorist?
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So I watched the video...
This is bogus. They appear to make it look like an "interview" but it is really just footage of a kid and some guy at a "news desk." The kid is swinging around in the chair and the guy has a stupid grin on his face.
The audio is overdubbed. The guy leads the kid on and asks basically yes or know questions while prompting her for the obvious desired answer. It sounds like she was coached.
Then her "mom" comes on and tells how the Pentagon was even called to ask them about the flag, but of course, they only have one since they are the "war department." Sorry, but that doesn't fly. If there really were two flags, the Pentagon surely would know about it.
Of course, the little girl wants to salute and pledge to a "flag of peace." What nine year old wouldn't if given the option?
I'm sure here "mom" was well meaning by trying to teach her daughter the "truth" but in this case, mom is a sucker. She didn't exercise due diligence and verify what she passed on to her child, and now her little girl stands to fail a grade (that seems a bit made up too) over not pledging to the "war flag."
Notice there are no details to this story other than the city, the girl's first name and her age. No last names, no names of the parent(s), no school officials interviewed not even the name of the school. No comments from the Pentagon.
THIS STORY IS GARBAGE.
Another fine example of why people laugh at the internet as a news source.
If "4409" (whatever that means) was EVER credible, they sure aren't now.
This brave little one is inspiring.
Let's hope she is only one of many to come, a new generation better educated by awake parents, and equipped with the courage to regrow freedom in this country.
Why does this post repeat itself?
And folks, I've done the research. There was never a "civil flag."
There is also no reason for the inverted colors in the union like the one posted on Barefoot's page. That is just a flight of fancy.
If anything, the union would have been blue with white stars just as our current one, but with the stripes used vertically as in the coast guard flag.
But there is no evidence so far that such a flag ever existed. If there is, I'd like to see it.
There is zero evidence for Barefoot's claims that Wolcott designed the flag that way to indicate civil over military authority.
There is zero evidence in law that vertical stripes were ever ordered, or authorized.
Barefoot provides no sources for those claims, chiefly because there are none.
The reference to Hawthorn does not in anyway indicate that the flag itself was of a different design, but merely that the stripes were vertical. This is easily demonstrated by hanging the flag rather than flying it. (there are different ways to display it) The fact of it being displayed this way for that purpose has no known FACTUAL counterpart to the fictional tale told by Hawthorn. If anyone can prove this was standard practice, I'd like to hear it.
We have many flags of our history preserved, including some that aren't so friendly to government such as the Gadsen flag. For there not be a single specimen that survived of this alleged "civil" flag tells me it most likely never existed. (especially in light of the lack of evidence noted above) People preserve things. We would have seen a real one by now.
I have seen this flag before and was informed
that it was a maritime flag signaling peaceful intent to ships of other countries. Sorry I didn't keep the literature on it, I'll edit this if I can find the information soon.
EDIT: I did find this quite lengthy article disputing the historic validity of a "peace flag." I'm not a competent enough student of history to dispute the claims of either side, but it may be wise to take an agnostic stance on its the flag's authenticity.
http://home.myfairpoint.net/vzeo1z2a/CivilFlag.html
But the really important point of the video is a teaching point beyond historic detail. All people starting from childhood should be able to question authority and stand up with courage for their own principles. Schools should not be used as arms of the government to produce robot citizens loyal by rote.
True to your last point, but
that's no excuse for shoddy historical research, or making claims without any proof.
It is also sad that if this "mom" taught her daughter anything else, she will not be trusted as much by her when she finds out her mom was gullible. She will wonder what else her mom was gullible about.
ah, memories...
from about 4th or 5th grade on, i began refusing to stand or repeat the pledge... My argument was that it was against my religion - something about having other gods before him... I mean think about it...we all get up at the same time, stare at a flag, put our right hands over our hearts, and repeat - in unison- a pledge of allegiance... I don't know how I got this idea, if i remember correctly i just kinda stepped back one day and looked at this obvious worship of the state/ idolotry...
"The Myth of an Independent Federal Reserve"
"The War Prayer - Mark Twain"
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
Raising a toast to barefoot
He may be gone, yet he lives on! After Ron Paul cured my apathy, Barefoots pages woke me up in many ways.
Yayyy for this brave little Patriot.
I've never heard of a peace flag, but I like it!
a tear of pride
Bless her great big, nonconformist heart.
"Samantha, a brave Phoenix 4th grade school student refused to sing the pledge of allegiance because she did not feel comfortable pledging allegiance to a war flag that promoted violence and aggresion towards others."
No to pledges!
The idea that people should pledge allegiance to a government has it backwards. Especially in America the government exists by the consent of the governed. The government should be pledging loyalty, not the people.
Add to that the prohibition against oath taking in the Bible clinches it.
This has always been an issue of mine. Funny schools
start their days off with this pledge then spend the rest of the day teaching about a democracy and socialism.
I pledge allegence to the flag of the UNITED STATES of American? Are the states united?
And to the REPUBLIC? ah democracy, fascist state headed to marxism.
One nation UNDER GOD? self explanitory
INDIVISIBLE? we are a divided people
With JUSTICE and LIBERTY for ALL? depends on your lawyer and bank account
The pledge is an oxymoron.