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H.R.992 - James Madison Memorial Commission Act of 2009

H.R.992 - James Madison Memorial Commission Act of 2009

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To establish the James Madison Memorial Commission to develop a plan of action for the establishment and maintenance of a James Madison memorial in Washington, DC, and for other purposes.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:

(1) President James Madison is often referred to as ‘Father of the Constitution’ for his influence on the Nation’s fundamental laws.

(2) At age 29, James Madison was the youngest delegate at the Continental Congress.

(3) In Congress, Representative James Madison drafted the legislation to enact the Bill of Rights.

(4) President James Madison declared war on Great Britain, igniting the War of 1812.

[note - this is an error, the US congress declared war, as Madison still followed the Constitution at that time]

(5) President James Madison approved the Treaty of Ghent which ended the War of 1812.

[note - this is true, but the US Senate ratified the treaty]

(6) President James Madison was the first United States Congressman to become President.

(7) President James Madison signed a congressional resolution admitting Louisiana to the Union as the eighteenth State on April 30, 1812.

(8) President James Madison signed a congressional resolution admitting Indiana to the Union as the nineteenth State on December 11, 1816.

SEC. 3. ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMISSION.

(a) In General- There is established the James Madison Memorial Commission (hereafter in this Act referred to as the ‘Commission’) to plan for the design and construction of a memorial in Washington, DC to be a tribute to the many accomplishments of James Madison.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h992/text

Your Co-Sponsorship is requested for HR 992

Sign the Petition : 47 Letters and Emails Sent So Far

The official start of the bi-centennial of the 1809-1817 presidency of James Madison has begun but Congress has yet to take the requisite steps to enable the Nation to mark the occasion.

Accordingly, please join now as a Co-Sponsor of HR 992. This Bill--the James Madison Memorial Commission Act--seeks an appropriate public memorial for this key intellectual figure in the creation of our Nation. Baron Hill needs your support now to implement this legislation. The Nation needs to keep alive the intellectual ideas of its Founders and Madison was--as the "father" of the Constitution and its Bill of Rights--among the greatest of the great. Once you're on board as a Co-Sponsor, please speak with Congressmen Raul M. Grijalva (DEM-AZ-7th)and Rob Bishop (REP-UT-1st) about your interest in HR 992. Following the adoption in 2005 of legislation requiring all Federally funded educational institutions to celebrate Constitution Day, the importance of James Madison and his key role in the creation of the Constitution has grown exponentially. The Public is now increasingly aware that Madison should be memorialized as proposed by HR 992.

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UPDATE FROM THE US CONSTITUTION:

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

"The Congress shall have Power To .... To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;"

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James Madison – Words of

James Madison – Words of Wisdom - Quotes for Next Year's New Statue:

“A mere demarcation on parchment of the constitutional limits (of government) is not a sufficient guard against those encroachments which lead to a tyrannical concentration of all the powers of government in the same hands.”

"Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions."

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country; but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person."

“The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.”

“The Constitution of the United States was created by the people of the United States composing the respective states, who alone had the right.”

"Security against foreign danger is one of the primitive objects of society. Without providing for our own security, we could never hope to control our own destiny or command or own fortunes."

"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

"A popular Government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both."

“Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."

“The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse.”

"Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad."

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and conflict; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”

"A pure democracy can admit no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will be felt by a majority, and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party. Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.”

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood."

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries."

"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."

"Wherever the real power in a Government lies, there is the danger of oppression. In our Governments, the real power lies in the majority of the Community, and the invasion of private rights is chiefly to be apprehended, not from the acts of Government contrary to the sense of its constituents, but from acts in which the Government is the mere instrument of the major number of the constituents."

"Religion & Government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."

"With respect to the words "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."

"But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself."

"In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people."

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for James Madison.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

No private citizen has the

No private citizen has the authority to build the James Madison memorial because the location is on land owned by the federal government.

Building memorials to our greatest Founding Fathers is the wisest possible use of taxpayer money. If built, US citizens who visit Washington will see James Madison standing tall, the Father of the Constitution, and perhaps the monument will help restore our Constitutional Republic.

One statue is not enough all by itself.

I would be in favor of a statue of James Madison built on every single piece of federal land in the United States, thousands of them, including all National Parks, Military bases, Rest Areas on Interstate Highways, Federal Court Houses, Federal Prisons, etc., each with Madison holding a copy of the Constitution in one hand, and the Bill-of-Rights in the other, and with free copies of these documents stocked, as well as low cost copies available of the Federalist Papers, the Helvidius Papers, his Notes on the Federal Convention, the Virginia Resolution, the Report of 1800, Madison's veto of the Internal Improvements Bill (of March, 1817), his 1791 Speech against the Bank Bill, his draft of a veto of the Bank Bill, his first draft of Washington's Farewell Address, his first draft of the Monroe Doctrine, his letter to Thomas Jefferson explaining the Constitution (1787), his War Message of 1812, his essay on Money from 1779, his veto of the Bank Bill of January, 1815, his Inaugural Address as President, all his Annual Messages as President, his Farewell Address, his Advice to My Country (1834), and his Last Will and Testament (1835).

I would have this message inscribed on every statue, written by John Quincy Adams in 1836:

"You too have the solemn duty to perform, of improving the condition of your species, by improving your own. Not in the great and strong wind of a revolution, which rent the mountains and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord—for the Lord is not in the wind—not in the earthquake of a revolutionary war, marching to the onset between the battle field and the scaffold—for the Lord is not in the earthquake—Not in the fire of civil dissension—In war between the members and the head—In nullification of the laws of the Union by the forcible resistance of one refractory State—for the Lord is not in the fire ; and that fire was never kindled by your fathers ! No! it is in the still small voice that succeeded the whirlwind, the earthquake and the fire. The voice that stills the raging of the waves and the tumults of the people—that spoke the words of peace—of harmony—of union. And for that voice, may you and your children's children " to the last syllable of recorded time," fix your eyes upon the memory, and listen with your ears to the life of James Madison!"

This country went the wrong direction when it started building statues of Lincoln and FDR.

Now is the time to turn in the opposite direction.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Some believe the War of 1812

Was waged by King George to eliminate any trace of and workings toward the 13th amendment to the US Constitution. "The Titles of Nobility Act"
By all evidence and for all intents and purposes it appears this amendment was ratified. It restricted subjects of the crown, BAR member esquires (attorneys) from serving in govt particularly the executive, judiciary and the congress of the US. Ever notice the gold trimmed flags you see in court rooms ? These are admiralty flags, when the revolution occurs one of the first things we need to do it take these out or cut off the fringe.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

Article 1, Section 8, Clause

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--

1. William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:255, 1765
2. Records of the Federal Convention
3. James Madison, Federalist, no. 43, 288--90, 23 Jan. 1788
4. Debate in Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 24 Jan. 1788
5. Federal Farmer, no. 18, 25 Jan. 1788
6. Debate in Virginia Ratifying Convention, 6, 16 June 1788
7. Thomas Tredwell, New York Ratifying Convention, 2 July 1788
8. Debate in North Carolina Ratifying Convention, 30 July 1788
9. Samuel Adams to Elbridge Gerry, 22 Aug. 1789
10. James Madison, Location of Capital, House of Representatives, 4, 21 Sept. 1789
11. St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries 1:App. 276--78, 1803
12. Hepburn v. Ellzey
13. United States v. More
14. Commonwealth v. Clary
15. Custis v. Lane
16. United States v. Cornell
17. People v. Godfrey
18. Loughborough v. Blake
19. Cohens v. Virginia
20. William Wirt, Right to Tax Government Property, 8 Sept. 1823
21. American Insurance Co. v. Canter
22. Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 3:§§ 1212--22, 1833

SEE ALSO:

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/a1_8_17.html

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Regardless of the authority,

Regardless of the authority, isn't it just stupid to be spending money on unnecessary things...unnecessary as in it's not necessary in maintaining life and society.

Tell me a "more necessary"

Tell me a "more necessary" thing to spend money on than a monument to James Madison.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

The statue is necessary to

The statue is necessary to counter-weight all the FDR crap they have in Washington, and to promote the principles of the Founding Fathers, rather than FDR socialism and war-mongering.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Excuse me, what did i define

Excuse me, what did i define as necessary? You are ignoring my words and twisting it to fit what you think.

You are twisting everything.

You are twisting everything. A statue of James Madison is Constitutional, in the public interest, and will help promote Constitutional government.

We have federal plaques all over the country at almost every Rest Area on the Interstate highway system, dedicated to historical events.

We have monuments all over the place in honor of Revolutionary War battles, Civil War battles, birthplaces of Founding Fathers, etc.

If your goal is to make the Ron Paul movement look like a bunch of morons, you are doing a good job of it.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

There you go with the

There you go with the "morons" again. Please read the DP Posting Guidelines.

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No, in a time where the

No, in a time where the government has no money, it should not be spending that money it doesn't have on non essential issues. Fix the budget and what not...sure build and glorify as you please. It's that simple. The project is not necessary and thus should not be considered in a time when unnecessary (meaning nonessential) things can't be afforded.

If we have "no money" as you

If we have "no money" as you say, how it it that old people still get their Social Security checks? That costs a billion times more than a monument. Should we cut off the old people and let them die?

Social Security isn't Constitutional either, while the monument to James Madison is.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Spending federal money on a

Spending federal money on a statue is not constitutional.... why do you think ron paul voted against a rosa parks medal?

Spending federal money on a

Spending federal money on a statue is constitutional in Washington DC, where congress has plenary power, per the 2nd part of Article I, Section 8, Clause 17.

I suggest you acquaint yourself with the Constitution.

The Rosa Parks medal has nothing to do with this. Ron Paul just voted for a plaque in Washington DC for the slaves who helped build the Capital.

If you are not able to understand the simple distinction between the Rosa Parks medal, and monuments in Wahington DC, then I suggest to take a course on remedial English.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

two wrongs, etc

Besides Madison wouldn't want it. Maybe Dolly Would, but not James.

Perhaps we should get a bill to tare down the Jefferson memorial. I'm sure he'd be embarassed as well.

Explain how a statue of

Explain how a statue of James Madison in Washington DC is a "wrong". That's just plain stupid. Unless you are a Socialist.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

"Plain stupid" and

"Plain stupid" and "socialist." Name calling again.

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Graven images to government

Its wrong to build such monuments to government, it creates the myth that these men were somehow above other men. All men are created equal, they serve their fellow men out of a sense of duty, not for power, and thus would want no special recognition for doing that. Perhaps Lincoln and FDR would see it different, but Jefferson and probably Washington would be embarrassed at all this attention.

Ron Paul confirms that

Ron Paul confirms that voting taxpayer money to honor deserving people in Washington DC is Constitutional:

GOP Rep. Steve King Is Only Vote Against Recognizing History Of Slave Labor In Capitol

By Eric Kleefeld - July 8, 2009, 2:32PM

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/gop-rep-steve-kin...

Here's an interesting example of those famous lone "No" votes in Congress -- the contrarian who is willing to stand up alone against the overwhelming majority of his or her colleagues, and vote against something that was passing easily.

Yesterday, the House of Representatives voted 399-1 for the Capitol Visitors Center to have a plaque acknowledging the role of slave labor in the construction of the Capitol. The resolution has information in it that even this history fanatic didn't know about -- for example, slave labor was involved in constructing the "Statue of Freedom" atop the Capitol Dome.

The "Yes" votes spanned the ideological spectrum, from Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann on the right to Maxine Waters and Dennis Kucinich on the left. The one vote against: Rep. Steve King (R-IA).

King's office has not yet commented on his reason for the vote.

Late Update: King has now released a statement, explaining that the vote was about protecting America's Judeo-Christian heritage.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Dr. Gordon S. Wood on the greatness of James Madison:

Dr. Gordon S. Wood on the greatness of James Madison:

"It is lamentable that Americans do not remember Madison as well as they should, especially when we reflect on who he was and what he achieved:

The major architect of the Constitution;

the father of the Bill of Rights and one of the strongest proponents of the rights of conscience and religious liberty in American history;

the coauthor of The Federalist, surely the most significant work of political theory in American history;

the leader and most important member of the first House of Representatives in 1789;

the cofounder of the Democratic-Republican party in the 1790s;

the secretary of state in Jefferson's administration;

and the fourth president of the United States --all this, and still he does not have the popular standing of the other founders, especially that of his closest friend, Thomas Jefferson."

http://www.americansformadison.org/quotes.html

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Irony

Of course, anyone who actually shares Madison's ideals cannot vote to take other people's money to build a temple to him.

The irony is that Baron Hill does not realize that.

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Shall we tear down the

Shall we tear down the Washington Monument and the Jefferson Memorial?

Do you understand the irony that there are all kinds of federal memorials to lesser individuals than Madison, yet you say nothing about them. Instead, you single out Madison.

Do you understand that Madison's papers, now in possession of the federal government, are worth a zillion times more than any monument?

See the irony?

Even Ron Paul just voted for a Monument in Washington DC, to honor the slaves who helped build the nation's capital.

Frankly, only a moron would oppose this project.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

"are worth a zillion times

"are worth a zillion times more than any monument".

Yeah so was the dollar in 1913.

Tear them all down

The reason I single out Madison is that the money has yet to be stolen. And besides, he would, uh, rebel at the idea.

It would be great if all the temples came down, but most particularly the Lincoln Memorial. While we're at it, let's take the images of people off of the coins. Before Lincoln got his mug on the penny in 1909,. the images were all allegorical - Miss Liberty, et al. That's the way it ought to be.

I typed the above before I noticed that you called me a moron.

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With the way DC operates

it would cost 10 times the amount to get rid of them instead of keeping them.
Money the US government collects should not be used for anything that is not specified in the Constitution.

The Constitution clearly

The Constitution clearly authorizes building projects in the District of Columbia.

That's why Ron Paul just voted to build a monument to the slaves who helped build the federal capital.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Ron Paul's vote is different

This was for a plaque in a government building. A new monument is something different.

No, the congress has plenary

No, the congress has plenary power in the federal district, per the US Constitution. It not different.

If you are an enemy of the Constitution, then I can see your reasoning.

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

So you think Ron Paul's

So you think Ron Paul's position should be to tear down the Washington Monument and the Jefferson Memorial?

Why don't we burn the papers of the Founding Fathers with them. You know it costs taxpayer money to store them.

Burn the Declaration of Independence. Burn the Constitution. Burn the Articles of Confederation. Burn Madison's Notes on the Constitution! Burn 'em all, let God sort 'em out!

Thomas Jefferson 1796, 1800, 1804; James Madison 1808, 1812; Ron Paul 1988, 2008, 2012; Rand Paul 2016.

Why not let those who wish

Why not let those who wish to construct a memorial donate for such a cause. I believe that is entirely consistent with Dr. Paul's voting record on similar cases of using tax payer money to pay tribute to an important person. He offered to chip in his own money to pay for honorary metals to people like Rosa Parks and other highly deserving people because it wasn't the right of congress to use tax payer money for that purpose. Nobody took him up on the proposal and another 434-1 vote took place.

No one's arguing Madison's importance and accomplishments, by all means he should have an extravagant memorial. But how necessary is it? What function would it serve? His records and documents are already well preserved and showcased. I'm sure he himself would object to this memorial and the other memorials. They're not an appropriate use of the tax payers money. Is there a section of the constitution that grants congress the power to construct and maintain houses for statues?

I think a memorial for Madison is appropriate and well deserved, but beyond the authority of congress to use taxpayer funds to construct, as far as I understand. It would be a shame to honor the father of the constitution by violating his greatest work in his memorial. If it is within congresses authority, sure I'm all for it, but I don't accept the argument "its ok because they approved the construction of all the other memorials". No it was unconstitutional then and it is unconstitutional now. (once again as far as I understand, can anyone verify? I'll gladly eat my words )