Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance. Which Pill will you take?
I'm just curios, if you had a choose which pill would you take the BLUE PILL or the RED PILL? Obviously in reference to The Matrix.
Please go into some detail.
JonQ.Publik
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To do good in the name of good is no good.
On September 26th, 2009 The Granger says:
What is good or evil depends again on you, or me, the individual.
You and I can witness the same event and have different perspectives or truths of it.
Santa Claus... is it good or evil?
I see good and evil like the tao or yin yang. I accept the absolute truth is there are many truths.
In judgement, I am going to do what I see as good for me, if it is not good for you, I apologise, but I do not accept the responsibnilty of your problem. Is that evil? Perhaps to you, you see? I'm not going to make your problem my problem... that would not be good for me, and it would make you evil, eh? to me... should I care that you care?
Some say for the right price. Some say putting a price on it is evil.
Moral... evil and good are both tools.
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WOW! A true statement of SELFISHNESS
On September 27th, 2009 JonQ.Publik says:
I agree that selfishness and selflessness can both be used to further the ends of the enemy, but selfishness unlike selflessness works far greater towards their ends than selflessness. If we all rush to our own selfish ends the enemy will surely win the prize, because they can simple buy you off with the wonderful benefits they have to offer.
Selflessness must be slightly to moderately tempered with self preservation or it can be used by the enemy to your destruction. Self preservation must be viewed as having the interests of my brotherin included as my own or the simple divide and concur works easy. Like it did in Poland in WWII.
Selflessness also must have a beneficiary who/that has the common good of the one doing the acts of selflessness. In my case I have two beneficiaries, a greater and a lesser beneficiary. The lesser are my countrymen and the greater is the Creator of the universe. He/it delivers a morel code to me that no man or set of men could ever come up with. I do admit this code has been hijacked in many ways to further to ends of my enemies, but this is no reason to through it out because of the ability of the enimy to defile everything and anything.
A unifying principle must be found to saving our country from the evil force of the world leader or it is domed to fail. I believe that there is no other that what I have stated. Our Founding Fathers believed this and fought for it. We should also!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
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My dear Granger,
I wish to apologize for my harsh treatment of you in my last post, I do not retract any of the truth. But my judgment of you was not based on fact, but emotions born of your attack on my status. Again I apologize for my simple minded statements.
Now to the facts: Yes, you are a legal slave!
the 13th amendment states "... no involuntary servitude..." You see you volunteered!
But also know this you are not a lawful slave. Fraud dissolves the most iron clad contracts. This fraud was brought upon us in a time of economic turmoil and the people were looking for a savior and the devil is in the details. You need to know how to establish this fraud in their legal realm in order to establish your STATUS, but it will come at a price. I have suffered much on this road of knowledge which is why most people will never come out. They are to comfortable with the benefits of being a voluntary legal slave.
Most "conservatives" actually are Unknowing "practicing socialist." This is way it is so hard to reveal the LIE to the people, because the people have bought into the LIE by receiving the benefits the enemy has to offer.
We need to stop beating each other with the truth or it'll happen again and even quicker.
A united cause is necessary in order to defeat the enemy and those are the principles of the Founding Fathers of this country. If you can not except them I ask you to steep a side, because those are the principles the enemy is trying to burn up in their entirety. You have to take them in their entirety or you are inadvertently working for them.
In fact this bickering is working to their advantage so I will no long answer any of your charges against me. However I will civilly converse with you on what I know and my convictions. Please respect me and what I have attained through sacrifice and I will respect you.
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
To: JonQPublik
I was not under the impression that you were attacking me. That said, I did not believe I was attacking you, however, if you felt that I was attacking you, I apologise.
I don't disagree with everything you say.
I wouldn't want a life like Abbie Hoffman.
Good luck to you JonQPublik.
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the bubonic red pill
The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.
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The Green Pill!:)
The Green Pill!
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or the cough syrup
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The Best of Both Worlds Pt 1, Star Trek The Next Generation
Borg: Captain Jean-Luc Picard. You lead the strongest ship of the Federation fleet. You speak for your people.
Capt. Picard: I have nothing to say to you, and I will resist you with my last ounce of strength.
Borg: Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours.
Capt. Picard: Impossible. My culture is based on freedom and self-determination.
Borg: Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply.
Capt. Picard: We would rather die.
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The Red pill is my choice,
The Blue pill only leads to more of the same.
We can't afford more of the same.
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If you HAVE to choose a red or blue pill
It's like having to choose between being blindfolded and shot between the eyes, or shot in the back of the head.
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Christ Granger, that may be dead on -
I read your comment while trying to craft one. It's not as simple as it seems. It could well be that voting, protesting, running for office, fixing the system, breaking the system, etc. are all forms of the metaphorical blue pill.
It's because all the actions stated above (and many, many more) all feed the system. Even violence against the system feeds it, makes it stronger, as it destroys the aggressor.
I read somewhere here tonight that, “if they want to build a police state, they will have to do it on a Republican admin" - or something to that effect. We're in a police state, it's already set up. Even now, the people dance to the right/left shuffle.
I read in here a few night ago about Palin co-opting several of the essential concepts (now slogans) of what were rallying crys here. The pattern is so large I guess it's difficult to see - like a crop circle.
And what point is the Fed's existence now anyway - mission accomplished - the country (or rather, the mythical idea of what this country represented) has already been lost; and it’s taken many decades.
Think about the movie that the red/blue pills come from - to take the Red Pill was to leave the system. Who's walking away from the system.
And maybe Diamond was onto something - to leave the egalitarian setting of 50-100 people, the hunter-gatherer (Eden, if you will), it just tends to drift away. Add to that the fact that we spent half the underground bank account of ancient sunlight to get us into this box canyon and I guess you end up reading articles about our Navy boys coming down with a killer flu...
Christ Granger, I forgot my effin point. Guess I'll hang up the phone and think about those words you just laid; hope I can find fault with them (feel free to help me look). Anyway, thanks
It's not a pretty thought, Stranger
Thats a fault, eh?
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How bout not taking either pill at all
but returning to natural remedies. They have been around a long time, but have been long forgotten due to the promotion of wonderful new 'medicines' over them. The color of the pill is irrelevant if it is still a pill. Once we decide we will not be taking pills any more, then the pill ITSELF becomes irrelevant.
Somewhat like the bloated, unwanted system will become when we relearn what we have forgotten and simply walk away, returning to what should be and is if we perceive/decide it to be.
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You can't walk away from
You can't walk away from someone who won't leave you alone. We can't just walk away because the system follows you where ever you go and harasses you and robs you etc. You can minimize it or maybe you are a real self sufficient type and can largely walk away however you still have property tax and if you want to use the highways their highwaymen will harass and extort you etc. etc. unless you can produce everything you will ever need yourself you will have to interface with the system at some point.
It's kind of like living in a small town that an evil drug gang has taken over. If you ignore them they remain in power and have dominion over you and the fruits of your labor etc.
You have to remove them and shut down the source of thier power to regain your freedom. What is he source of thier power? It fear, ignorance and intimidation.
We have to stop being afraid get educated and step up. Many are doing this using the law and it is having an effect. The law is on our side. If we do not get enough people doing it using the law we will eventually have to confront them physically if we want to stop it.
People say well they ignore the law so what good is it. One good thing is if we use the law we don't alienate the population by using violence. If they ignore the law then we expose them that they are violating law and people will tend to be on our side.
If we use violence I am not sure enough people in this country understand what is going on that they would support us. We have to be prudent and pick our battles and be sure we can win them. Time is short.
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But I have walked away from the system.
But I have walked away from the system. I don't use the S.S.N., I have won on the drives license case, I live in peace with the system all around me. I have a Bank account with out the S.S.N. and they don't steel any of my pay. I also know of many others like me all over the country. Its just a matter of time before we crush them with our weight or they try to kill us with their armies.
It took me 17 years to get where I am, I'm not at the place I want to be, but I have won in more ways than I can tell you in this forum.
So do what you can, learn all you can and pass that knowledge on to others.
Put away some food and other thing for safety, for the time is coming when you will need to relay on the Creator, yourself and a small group for a short time before the prize is won.
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
What's the difference between you and an illegal alien?
"To say nothing is also a lie" Miquel de Unamuno
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I was born here by parents
I was born here by parents that were born here and grand parents that also were born here, all dating well before 1933.
I just happen to have been born and live in the Republic and you live as a slave in the democracy. That would make you an illegal alien in the Republic. This is the true difference between you and me!!
There is much you are vary ignorant of.
So the S.S.N. was pushed on America in 1935 after the 1933 bankruptcy and the with holding tax (which is now the income tax) in 1941-42, what does that make all those who lived before that. You really believe that the S.S.N. makes you an American? Just the opposite its what gave the banksters the nexus of jurisdiction to tax your pay in the federal corporate socialist democracy. You're a federal corporation under the S.S.N. and because the federal corporate socialist democracy went belly up in 1933 they devised a way in 1935 to make people like you pay for it by 1942.
You claim to be a conservative, but you hold on to the benefits the federal corporate socialist democracy gives you.
Your lack of knowledge is vary clear, you've bought in to their lie! Or are you one of the many agents on this site that are a true party to the lie!
Its people like you that are dragging this country into socialism. Go live in Cuba! There you'll find the utopia you're looking for.
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
Wouldn't my SSN make me a legal slave?
No doubt JonQPublic, you are a far and wiser man than me to prosperously perpetuate as a free man in a republic while I am so blind, deaf and dumb to not be able to break my way out of this paper bag from being a slave to a democracy within the republic of which I was born, a slave, heavily vaccinated, and issued a military ID at birth, I grew up on military bases surrounded by troops and WMD, a totaltarian faction of the USA. I was born in the service and to the service.
I foolishly thought I could escape by joining the civilian world, but now I see just a little bit, the civilian world is turning into the military.
I have no problem admitting the truth, which I explained in another post, JonQPublic, as much a selfish fool as I am, you are a much better person than I to be FREE. Somewhere in the Bible there must be a proverb to reflect this.
Congratulations and continued success. I wish I was as smart as you, but I am not.
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"I was born in the service and to the service."
Guess that makes your loyalties clear...
And you are right, even if you don't realize it. JQP is a wiser man than you. The "blue" and "red" pills look familiar to me.... lets see, where have I seen a false "this or that" choice before...? Oh yeah, that's right - everywhere.
JQP and people like him are making serious sacrifices for LIBERTY. Their own liberty is the only liberty they can be accountable for, so they are demanding their own liberty. Their willingness to lead this assault makes them brave, and the lessons they learn before the masses follow them makes them wise.
And if the masses never gain enough wisdom to follow, he is that much wiser and braver for finding truth and abiding in it, against the entire world if needed.
I really wish you folks would read the thing on controlled opposition. Red pills and blue pills mean you are still swallowing something.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Thing is paul4won
I'm the black sheep in my family. I have never been married. I do not have children.
I believe that is enough sacrifice.
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Those would be choices, not sacrifices
Sacrifice is when you willingly give something up. You chose not to marry or procreate. JQP is putting his liberty, his ability to work, his "rights" up to blaze a NEW trail, toward TRUE liberty.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
My dear Granger,
I wish to apologize for my harsh treatment of you in my last post, I do not retract any of the truth. But my judgment of you was not based on fact, but emotions born of your attack on my status. Again I apologize for my simple minded statements.
Now to the facts: Yes, you are a legal slave!
the 13th amendment states "... no involuntary servitude..." You see you volunteered!
But also know this you are not a lawful slave. Fraud dissolves the most iron clad contracts. This fraud was brought upon us in a time of economic turmoil and the people were looking for a savior and the devil is in the details. You need to know how to establish this fraud in their legal realm in order to establish your STATUS, but it will come at a price. I have suffered much on this road of knowledge which is why most people will never come out. They are to comfortable with the benefits of being a voluntary legal slave.
Most "conservatives" actually are Unknowing "practicing socialist." This is way it is so hard to reveal the LIE to the people, because the people have bought into the LIE by receiving the benefits the enemy has to offer.
We need to stop beating each other with the truth or it'll happen again and even quicker.
A united cause is necessary in order to defeat the enemy and those are the principles of the Founding Fathers of this country. If you can not except them I ask you to steep a side, because those are the principles the enemy is trying to burn up in their entirety. You have to take them in their entirety or you are inadvertently working for them.
In fact this bickering is working to their advantage so I will no long answer any of your charges against me. However I will civilly converse with you on what I know and my convictions. Please respect me and what I have attained through sacrifice and I will respect you.
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
When enough are educated and walk away (figuratively)
then power dissipates naturally as people return to true law that has been relearned. If there is no one left in the room to yell at or abuse and no one even turns around to look at what all the noise is about, then the bully is ...irrelevant.
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I don't quite follow your
I don't quite follow your idea. I'm trying to ascertain if people are prone to resist or to futility.
The Daily Paul is like the BLUE PILL. We are trying to keep ourselves informed, but will we take action, that is the real question.
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
One pill makes you larger, and another makes you small
Have you heard the song "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0&feature=related
The moral of the story to going down rabbit holes is to remember what the doormouse said, "Feed your head".
LEARN.. now to learn you can't take one pill or another pill and not think that there might be billions of other pills you are ignoring.
The "red pill/ blue pill" (great for movies and songs) but in realty, it's limits your growth and ultimately set you us as being a divider, us vs them.
Red pill might as well be Fox news and the blue pill CNN... BOTH ARE LOSERS.
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Ooh! Quite the lucid response.
Ooh! Quite the lucid response. I like how you disregard the temptation of pealing away the layers of the onion. That's good!
Who is or are the winners, and the one who tempted you with the onion?
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
To each his own
It's like just when you think you won the rat race, along comes the fat cat. Just when you think you heard the fat lady sing, she's got another note.
What is your idea of a win? For some, it's dying with the boots on.
"Shit happens"
To me, if you are happy, you won. But that's me.
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all win.
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O.K., let us cut to the case.
O.K., let us cut to the case. What's your view on the battle of good and evil?
Maybe I'm just naive on what I'm convinced of.
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
To do good in the name of good is no good.
What is good or evil depends again on you, or me, the individual.
You and I can witness the same event and have different perspectives or truths of it.
Santa Claus... is it good or evil?
I see good and evil like the tao or yin yang. I accept the absolute truth is there are many truths.
In judgement, I am going to do what I see as good for me, if it is not good for you, I apologise, but I do not accept the responsibnilty of your problem. Is that evil? Perhaps to you, you see? I'm not going to make your problem my problem... that would not be good for me, and it would make you evil, eh? to me... should I care that you care?
Some say for the right price. Some say putting a price on it is evil.
Moral... evil and good are both tools.
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
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WOW! A true statement of SELFISHNESS
I agree that selfishness and selflessness can both be used to further the ends of the enemy, but selfishness unlike selflessness works far greater towards their ends than selflessness. If we all rush to our own selfish ends the enemy will surely win the prize, because they can simple buy you off with the wonderful benefits they have to offer.
Selflessness must be slightly to moderately tempered with self preservation or it can be used by the enemy to your destruction. Self preservation must be viewed as having the interests of my brotherin included as my own or the simple divide and concur works easy. Like it did in Poland in WWII.
Selflessness also must have a beneficiary who/that has the common good of the one doing the acts of selflessness. In my case I have two beneficiaries, a greater and a lesser beneficiary. The lesser are my countrymen and the greater is the Creator of the universe. He/it delivers a morel code to me that no man or set of men could ever come up with. I do admit this code has been hijacked in many ways to further to ends of my enemies, but this is no reason to through it out because of the ability of the enimy to defile everything and anything.
A unifying principle must be found to saving our country from the evil force of the world leader or it is domed to fail. I believe that there is no other that what I have stated. Our Founding Fathers believed this and fought for it. We should also!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
JonQ.Publik
Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.
Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!
Let me ask you JonQ.Publik
You claim:
"If we all rush to our own selfish ends the enemy will surely win the prize, because they can simple buy you off with the wonderful benefits they have to offer"
I am a conservationist. I am not an environmentalist. When the term, "environmentalist" came about, I didn't get it. Now I understand, environmentalists are manipulators, which sometimes falls into the conservative camp, but more often falls into the corruption of constitutional property rights camp. I consider environmentalists an enemy. This enemy is founded on corporate greed and driven with ignorant and apathic do gooders who are going to selflessly take care of me and the planet, Constitution be damned.
I'm not seeing what my enemy has for sale that I want to buy. Help me, or yourself for the sake of debate, but I'm not seeing the wonderful benefits to buy. So where's the sale?
When you say:
"Selflessness must be slightly to moderately"
All you're saying is "Selflessness does not work"
You say:
"I have two beneficiaries, a greater and a lesser beneficiary. The lesser are my countrymen and the greater is the Creator of the universe."
Can you get both parties to agree to that in writing? No. So while you may wax altruisticly poetic, YOUR SELFISH SELF INTEREST is merely trying to hide an ego thinking it's a hero to the people and blessed by God.
As far as saving this country, talk to the folks arrested at the G-20, or any of the millions of prisoners in the worlds's largest prison industrial complex who were tazed all the way there, or the troops who are back drafted, or the millions of people on food stamps.. Go to any number of countries the US armed forces occupies, or exercises or trains, or go to Wal_mart and read lables, MADE IN CHINA.
Now hear this:
Commercial airlines have a special message for parents traveling with children. They tell parents that if and when the cabin loses pressure and the air masks drop, to put the mask over their mouth and breathe deep, and THEN, AFTER the parent/caretaker has filled their lungs, then give the infant oxygen. The reason, if it is not obvious, is that a dead parent is no good to an infant. A parent must have some selfishness to actually care for the child. A dependent has rights, but they do not trump the provider.
Selflessness is a LIE.
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