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Just got another email saying that NAVY sailors are dying from the swine flu vaccine

Submitted by G Class Stat on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:13
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I copied and pasted the context of the email below. It came from the Oathkeepers, via email via my MilitaryforRonPaulmeetup / Military4CFL meetup. This is the second time I heard this story. That's TIMES TWO!, which is an old navy expression meaning now I gotta pay attention to this. The first time I heard of this was from legalizeliberty's thread here on DPwhere she posted this youtube link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JZhPtlXfHs

First of all, how do we verify this? Secondly, how do we proceed?

> A message from Robert Gosnell to all
> members of Tennessee on Oath Keepers!
>
> Data gleaned indirectly from anonymous testimony of Navy
> wives of the affected crew via the internet radio show A
> Marine Disquisition :
>
> Unnamed US Navy vessel put to sea in April with 347 man
> crew.
> Entire crew was vaccinated with H1N1 Swine Flu vaccine
> shortly after they put to sea.
> Crew sickened so severely that other ships had to respond
> to render aid. 16 Medical Dr.s put aboard from an
> unnamed aircraft carrier and other responding vessels.
> Total of 50 Navy personnel sent aboard to respond to crisis.
>
> Two of the crew of 347 died - including the Captain of the
> ship (a Lieutenant Commander) and a Master Chief Petty
> Officer.
> 50 personnel sent aboard to help are quarantined in Navy
> hospital in Balboa, Spain after 10 of them caught the flu
> from the ship's crew. Two of the 50 quarantined
> are in serious
> condition at last report.
> Of the 347 man crew that were vaccinated, 333 contracted
> the H1N1 flu FROM THE VACCINE. Two died, as mentioned
> above, and 331 survived. Only 14 of the 347 vaccinated
> sailors did not show any ill effects from the vaccine.
> Navy has threatened all the spouses of the ship's crew
> to remain silent - claiming all this information is
> classified. Some are whistle-blowing and that is where
> this information is coming from.
> On the unnamed aircraft carrier that provided assistance,
> 415 sailors contracted the swine flu and are currently
> quarantined onboard.
> PLEASE pass this email along. The truth is that the
> swine flu epidemic will be created BY THE VACCINE. If
> we don't take it, there will be no epidemic. From
> this one test it's apparent that the vaccine as tested
> on that ship's crew in April is 96% effective at
> infecting the recipient with swine flu. Such an
> infection rate is impossible to achieve by any natural means.

>

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Wow...an email. Case closed

Submitted by WCU4Paul on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 22:14.

I'm glad you brought this convincing evidence to our attention. With such strong documentation and mainstream topics on Daily Paul like chemtrails, OKC bombing conspiracies, and 9/11 troofing, it's hard to believe that so many normal Americans are resistant to joining us in fighting for liberty.

I'd totally back you up more, but I have to start shopping online. A Nigerian bank teller is sending me 10% of a multi-million dollar fortune that was abandoned in a numbered account by a general who died in a plane crash. Yippee!

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What documentable evidence do you want...

Submitted by LionandLambMinistry on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 21:04.

The "whistle-blowers" name and address??

I think the CBS News Story was some quick thinking DIS-information just in CASE the story DID leak...

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This story is all the buzz right now...

Submitted by LastAmericanStanding on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 10:51.

But don't put too much stock in it until it gets verified.

Other than a few blog spots, I don't see anything in the way of documentable evidence.

Watch it, but please don't promote it as fact.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

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This is something that I tell my brother-in-law

Submitted by riceowlex on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 10:20.

His brother is a medic. I tell him if the powers that be will murder 3000 people in the US to get the OK to kill million in the middle east what makes you think they wont stick your brother in an experiment ? I think it overwhelms him and he has to brush it off. We've talked about 9/11, the initiator and progenitor of mass murder, theft and misery. When you can finally grasp how deep this rabbit hole goes it can be overwhelming.
Check out the second picture down on this site of "The Wink"
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/most_reve...
I mean who smiles and winks after such a traumatic event, especially with the victims grieving widow present ? Wake Up People !!

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Who is 'fluboard' and what is their agenda?

Submitted by LastAmericanStanding on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 10:51.

I've never heard of them. They are 'tracking flu activity'? How nice of them!

Sorry, it's just part of my "don't trust anyone" philosophy....

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Bumping,

Submitted by Habit4ming on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 09:09.

hoping for further information...

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Submitted by highwithaltitude on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 07:32.

I was in the Military Intelligence field. Standard procedure is to implement whatever action they desire, tell the public something different, and if all hell breaks loose then cover it up with a "fall guy" that jump the gun on implementing the vaccines and that person will be punished.

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We haven't even started

Submitted by Logic on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 07:23.

We haven't even started taking the vaccine yet. It's not due to be available for us until mid October. As of right now they have only started the regular flu vac.
http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=48042

It's not a good thing for the cause when people start outting out unsubstansiated information.

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You don't need a dangerous shot.

Submitted by riceowlex on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 10:37.

Get a bottle of this, it'll last for a month or two. It's safe for infants and small children. You can add it to your cat and dogs water it helps them too. It kills 700 different strains of germs, bacteria and viruses.
Site here. http://www.oxysilver.com/index.asp?AffID=2207
My great grandmother told me when I was a kid the way they would prevent mold, mildew and bacteria in water supplies was to throw a couple of silver dollars into the water container. I started doing some research and found out there was a lot that silver could do in the way of killing viruses and bacteria.
It's not patentable like so many natural remedies so like everything else the PTB would rather you not know about it. This stuff is the best that I've seen or used. It has a money back guarantee. If you want to test it for actual silver there are instructions on the FAQ to do so.

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So your saying this story isnt true?

Submitted by G Class Stat on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 07:59.

The article you posted has been out... I read it a few weeks ago... But your right... if this story is not true than it would hurt us if we pushed it... but if it is true... then damn

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I'm just saying that not a

Submitted by Logic on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 08:15.

I'm just saying that not a single person on this entire base has taken the vaccine because it hasn't even been issued yet. It says in the article, along with the Navy Times that we are not due to recieve it until October. So no, I don't think the story is true, but that is based on my own personal knowledge. Also, being in the Navy I would think that if something this big has happened we would have been informed some way or another. The Navy is not that big as to where word would not get out if an entire ship fell victim.
Of course, if anything does develop from the perspective from within, I'll be sure to post it.

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It is a small Navy

Submitted by G Class Stat on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 09:21.

But for how many decades did they hide the truth behind the gulf of tonkin incident, or that time that the isreali airforce destroyed a navy ship? It seems crazy but its not impossible. Ive been hearing talk of mandatory swine flu shots as far back as august for military. The military is great for keeping secrets... how hard would it be to keep this incident underwraps? Not as hard as you may think... you dont have to control the entire incident.. just manipulate it enough to steer people in the wrong direction.

In medical, "if its not documented... it didnt happen". Same for news information "if its not reported... it didnt happen"

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You're right, the military

Submitted by Logic on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 11:21.

You're right, the military may be good at keeping secrets at the higher level. But if hundreds of guys and girls are getting sick at the lower level, somebody's telling somebody. A kids telling his mom, a friend a friend, a husband to wife. You can't keep 100 e-3's from talking. Especially when it effects so many at a time.

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This is coming from the oathkeepers...

Submitted by G Class Stat on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 07:13.

circulating around MilitaryforRonPaul and MilitaryC4L email lists. We need to see if this is true because it is damning... no one will get the flu shot after this and alotta media/governmnet/pharmeceuticals will look culpable

http://www.jbs.org/
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found this

Submitted by savingmykidsfuture on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 22:23.

I don't know if its reliable or not
I'm searching for anything that would make the story legit

Navy ship docking in CA with onboard fatalities
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1486...

QUOTE
Okay, I've been researching this story in between patients. I've found out a few pertinent facts.

1. Much of the wording of the story being circulated now as if it is current news (starting on September 24th) was stolen verbatim from a true CBS news story dated July 21st. The base true story was radically altered, with dramatic fictional elements added, and "rebranded" to make it appear it's happening now. It isn't.

2. Regarding the allegedly "dead" officers, given as simply "the captain and the master chief petty officer" -- Captain Mark L. Cedrun and Command Master Chief Petty Officer Ray Burrhus are both alive and well and occupy their posts, which they've occupied for over a year. NO change of command was recorded on the military websites (even though I found every other changeover going back 5 years) or on the USS Boxer's homepage, where Captain Cedrun is clearly listed as STILL in command (pretty good for a corpse, wouldn't you say?). There were NO death or funeral stories anywhere on the web (other than Ott, et. al's garbage story). One website I visited even had a comment from a sailor stating that the stories were fabricated and that, while a bunch of people got sick with flu in July (something we knew), everyone recovered and nobody died. He called the story BS. I was able to verify the sailor is who he claims to be. Captain Cedrun and the Master Chief would probably be quite shocked to find out that some vaccination conspiracy wingnuts are spreading rumors that they died of swine flu.

3. The Timeline: Was the ship ever under a 60-day at-sea quarantine? Answer: NO!

June 25th: Phuket, Thailand -- ship put into port. Some marines from the ship got in trouble with the law over a jet ski incident, thus establishing a paper trail. Many sailors and marines partook of shore leave.
July 17th: Ship puts into port at Pearl Harbor. During ocean transit from Thailand, 69 crew members out of almost 3,000 became ill with the flu. The sick crew members are kept on board ship and tested for H1N1 with positive results. Their cases were reported in the news by CBS and on military and flu surveillance sites, ours included. Healthy crew members disembarking for shore leave were screened with thermography equipment. Many crew members wandered around Waikiki and Honolulu for beach parties, shopping, and fun.
Quote:
Boxer's Morale Welfare and Recreation Department arranged numerous tours and activities for the crew, including a snorkeling trip and a hike up one of Oahu's most recognized landmarks, Diamond Head State Monument. The crew also enjoyed shopping for gifts and the scenic beauty of the islands.
http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=47043

July 24th: Boxer departed Oahu bound for the West Coast.
July 30th: Boxer stopped at Camp Pendleton to disembark the Marines of the 13th MEU. A party was held to welcome the Marines home after 7 months duty.
August 5th: Boxer arrived at its home port in San Diego for furlough after being deployed since January (San Diego is where it has been ever since). USS Boxer (Pier 13), USS New Orleans (Pier 10), USS Comstock (Pier 6). Note the date it arrived in San Diego...It isn't today, as the story claimed. Video of the welcome home, showing the ship arriving, sailors coming down the ramp, kissing their family members, etc. was published in several spots on the web. Quite a few news stories about it.
August 12th: The allegedly dead captain of the ship took part in a bike race/rally in San Diego. Looked very healthy for a dead man! ;)

It's pretty clear from the above DOCUMENTED events that there was never a 60-day, at-sea, ship-wide quarantine, nor did the Captain and Command Master Chief Petty Officer die of swine flu while at sea, nor did the ship arrive back in San Diego today, all as alleged by the now thoroughly debunked story.

(If anyone would like links to verify each of the statements made above, I'll be happy to provide them. I have about two pages worth.

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No, that website is not legit

Submitted by G Class Stat on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 22:33.

Bullcrap he found all the change of commands for the past 5 yrs. Thats straight bullshit right there... Thats a perfect example of how you cant believe everything you read...
http://www.jbs.org/
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ok

Submitted by savingmykidsfuture on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 22:44.

thanks, had never been there before
and wasn't familiar with his reasoning

I'll keep looking

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So did they get sick from H1N1 or the vaccine?

Submitted by Henry on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:58.

Like so much circulating on the internet you must assume it is rumor until you can verify it, and hearing about it twice is not verification. Hell, I still am getting emails for false rumors that were floating around two years ago.

But what can be verified are reports that vitamin D3 is more effective than any vaccine.

Do your own research. And by the way, if you let the vermin that occupy positions of governmental power make your medical decisions for you, you probably deserve to be dead.

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Thats what Im saying

Submitted by G Class Stat on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 22:12.

Most of the people I talk to... not DP'ers, not C4L'ers, not Tea Partiers, not political or even awake... just regular folk... even they are whispering under their breath concern and fear about this vaccine. Something like this story, if true, will seal the deal and America will grow a backbone again. This needs to be verified by another source.. but how? when? Unitl then we need to keep the issue on the forefront

http://www.jbs.org/
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What does the good doctor have to say about the h1n1 vaccine?

Submitted by G Class Stat on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:53.

Jesus, I pray he comes out and says something because not only is he a leader, not only is he presidential, he is a doctor and people would listen to him if he said this swine flu vaccine is dangerous

http://www.jbs.org/
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This is from last April

Submitted by Gary W Trott on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 22:27.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB5-Y08qbjo

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Can we get more confirmation

Submitted by brainon4u2 on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:47.

of this disaster?

They threatened all the spouses to remain silent...

Submitted by Jiminy Cricket on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:49.

...or else WHAT?

They used the crew as experimental guinea pigs and think the SPOUSES owe it to the Navy to remain silent?

If this is true, I hope the spouses scream it from the rooftops!

My friend with the Colorado

Submitted by bad_karma on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:39.

My friend with the Colorado State Patrol said there is no way any trooper will take the vaccine.. they know it is not good.

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Submitted by highwithaltitude on Sun, 09/27/2009 - 07:21.

I suspect many of them are questioning in their minds what the government is currently doing and plan to do soon.

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I just got the same email

Submitted by TexaslovesRonPaul on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:36.

says it's from Bob Chapman's Int'l Forecaster

says the information came from this internet show
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1362067
I'm listening now for the relevant part. Seems it starts around 5:45.

Im on "A Marines Disquisition" website

Submitted by G Class Stat on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:44.

listening to a show that aired a couple of days ago, also relevant. Its not bob chapman though.... saying that the vaccine is an immuno-surpressant/sterilization vaccine.

So are those sailors dying in Balboa Spain? Is this true? How can we verify this to make sure its factual before we go telling everybody and seem like idiots if its not

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