FDIC bankrupt as of 9/30/09
Another words, banks deposits now have less than nothing backing them up.
Ayn Rand wrote the following about those who are best described as Profiteers of Destruction:
"Your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that your society is doomed."
FDIC Proposes Banks Prepay Deposit Fees Through 2012
By Alison Vekshin
Sept. 29 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. proposed asking banks to prepay three years of premiums to replenish reserves dented by a rash of bank failures that the agency said will cost $100 billion through 2013.
The insurance fund will run a deficit as of tomorrow after 120 banks failed in the past two years, the agency said today. Half the costs from seized banks have been incurred already and prepaying the fees will raise $45 billion, the FDIC said. The agency rejected options for a second special fee or borrowing from the Treasury Department.
“What we are proposing to do is to tap the ample liquidity of the banking industry to improve our own liquidity position without borrowing from the Treasury,” FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair said at a Washington board meeting. The agency raised its five- year loss estimate by 43 percent.
The agency is required by law to rebuild the fund when the reserve ratio, or the balance divided by insured deposits, falls below 1.15 percent. It was 0.22 percent on June 30. The fund, drained by 95 bank failures this year, had $10.4 billion at the end of the second quarter. The fund will erase its deficit by 2012, the staff said.
The proposal approved by the board requires banks to pay premiums for the fourth quarter and next three years on Dec. 30.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aidlDq7Z...
FDIC Discloses Deposit Insurance Fund Is Now Negative
Tyler Durden on 09/29/2009 09:54 -0500
In an unprecedented disclosure, the FDIC has highlighted that it expects the DIF reserve ratio to be negative as of September 30. As there are a whopping 48 hours before that deadline, one can safely assume that the DIF is now well into negative territory: as of today depositors have no insurance courtesy of a banking system that has leeched out all the capital of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Let's pray there is no run on the bank soon.
Pursuant to these requirements, staff estimates that both the Fund balance and the reserve ratio as of September 30, 2009, will be negative. This reflects, in part, an increase in provisioning for anticipated failures. In contrast, cash and marketable securities available to resolve failed institutions remain positive.
Additionally, the FDIC has now raised its expectation for bank failure costs from $70 billion $100 billion. Feel free to expect this number to continue growing.
Staff has also projected the Fund balance and reserve ratio for each quarter over the next several years using the most recently available information on expected failures and loss rates and statistical analyses of trends in CAMELS downgrades, failure rates and loss rates. Staff projects that, over the period 2009 through 2013, the Fund could incur approximately $100 billion in failure costs. Staff projects that most of these costs will occur in 2009 and 2010. Approximately $25 billion of the $100 billion amount has already been incurred in failure costs so far in 2009. Staff projects that most of these costs will occur in 2009 and 2010.
First Mary Schapiro has failed at her task of "regulating" anything on Wall Street, and now Sheila Bair presides over a newly insolvent institution. Chalk one up to Washington's success at "containing" the crisis. Zero Hedge wishes Ms. Bair all the luck in the world in returning the DIF to its statutory minimum requirement of 1.15% of all insured deposits (a shortfall of a mere hundred billion or so). Maybe she can convert the FDIC to a REIT and have Merrill Lynch do a concurrent IPO and follow-on offering (while Goldman raises it to a Conviction Buy which incorporates the firm's expectations for 10% GDP growth in 2010 coupled with projections for $1,000 per barrel of crude)?
FDIC's full memorandum outlining its failure can be found here.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fdic-discloses-deposit-insu...





















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The FDIC went permanently bankrupt in 1971
The FDIC ceased serving any known purpose in 1971. Once the fiat counterfeiting scheme was sprung, the FDIC became a joke. What exactly is it they're insuring? Worthless scraps of paper.
You know, I never though of it that way...
...but you're absolutely right!
"So you lost five thousand non-dollars.... don't worry, we'll print some more up for you."
And the banks are forced into participating, I'm sure.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
That's how twisted things have become
The banks which are forced into paying for this "insurance" are simply getting raped. The banks pay the FDIC the FRN's which they've earned by providing the fruits of their labor (such as it is). The FDIC then provides banks' customers with "insurance" against loss. So what happens when the whole shit-show collapses? The federal reserve steps in and "adds a zero" to some bank accounts. It's just another illogical government scam. Unless honest, sound money is being used the whole financial sector is corroded by the moral bankruptcy of easy money.
The fall of US govt dictatorship is starting?
invest in lead and foodstuff.
meek: lead as in ammo lead?
I have been.
Total control not far away.
no number 2 pencils and fishing weights... :O)
sorry had to do it.
so does this:
include NCUA from credit unions?
I mean I have some change in the bank and dont want to lose that, so I wonder if I should switch to a Credit Union this will "lower the blow" temporarily.
I think it would be a good
I think it would be a good idea to take some cash out of the bank today. I do not feel comfortable at all having my money in a US bank with no FDIC backing. I plan on taking most all of my cash out of the bank. It is not like they pay any interest anyway, so what is the point. Everyone takes cash for purchases so, no point in having extra money in my checking account if it is not insured
ambishop: You are right.
Keep some money at home. The interest rates are poor. If there is a run on banks or one big bank goes combined with the FDIC crisis of no money left, having some money at home is a good idea.
Small denomiations
It's nice to have small denominations in amounts that are readily accepted.
1, 5, 10, 20 FRNs. No 50 or 100 FRN denominations.
Check out a clerks face when you give them a 50 or 100. Then check their face when they receive a 20. There is a big difference.
Most people use debit and credit cards today, so the sight of a large bill stuns people.
Also, have small amounts of silver (junk silver).
One of the best currencies for small items is cigarettes next might be airplane sized alcohol bottles.
We need to push for another....
bank run......
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If everyone would withdraw say 5-10% of their money, would....
that action push some over the edge? Maybe some banks would go. The big banks are gobbling up the smaller ones. If some of the big ones are still vulnerable, a chain reaction could still result, especially due to the FDIC now being in the red.
I don't understand this stuff
very well. My dad has about a million and 1/2 at least in cds and I remember something about fdic insuring amounts up to 400,000? He has his money put in different accounts. Is he safe? I really don't understand this stuff. I don't have money so why would I? Any advice for the old man? Not that he would listen. He thinks the government knows best. Can't wait to get his flew shot and thinks I'm nuts with all my End the Fed and the Constitution is outdated ,we need government healthcare,socialism,police state,people should keep there mouth shut and it would serve me right if I got arrested for going to rallies ect. But hey this sounds bad but I am talking about my possible inheritance too if he doesn't find a way to take it with him ;) He used to be a hard core republican. I don't know if he has gone senile or what. I think he is just a stingy old koot that wants the government to pay for hid medical care so he can keep his money. He doesn't realize it won;t be free to someone with his money. He goes to the VA now and he was only in the navy a month and got the mumps and they fell so he got cut loose. He is 84.
Your father:
The Greatest Generation. They were fed "Your government will take care of you, so work hard." for breakfast, lunch and dinner. He'll be a hardsell!
They feel like they worked hard so government is going to have to figure it out (aka future generations).
He needs different BANKS, not accounts, I think
Advice from a woman who got almost nothing when her parents died - get over the shame and fight for it. It is certainly more YOURS than the government's.
My parents owned 3 properties in a very desirable location. My father died first, my fey mother auctioned off everything - all the antiques that had been in my family for centuries - GONE. She told us kids after the fact. She then burned through nearly every dime my father had saved, plus what she got for selling everything, going to doctors and then refusing to follow their advice. It is sad and funny... She REALLY wanted to die, so she refused their chemo... and probably lived ten more years because of it. The assisted living facility she chose rather than take any of her kids' offers burned through the rest of her money. She lived there about 12 years, and two weeks before she died they kicked her out... they were afraid she was going to die there. Ummmm, yeah, she was terminal when she went IN.
Anyway, do what you can while you can. I never saw a total net worth, but I am guessing they were pushing 3/4 of a million ten years ago. When she died, she had about $70K left.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Sucking sound: Future Money
Someone better get Stephen Hawking on the phone and let him know the FDIC invented time travel. That sucking sound you hear is the FDIC funneling money from the future.
Money from the future is needed to pay for stuff now since the present time is completely out of money.
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I read this earlier in the day. The FDIC is attempting to reach
out over 3 years for collecting "premiums" for coverage in order to help meet projected, nearly current, obligations. The whole idea of the FDIC acting as insurer was a ruse from the outset. As bad as the FDIC asset situation is though, there seems to be no end to the ways and inclinations of others, in the power elite, to rain more fiat money on whatever institution they wish. I presume Benochio has his helicopter on standby if he's needed. The only rational thing for people to do is to pull their money (or as much of it as they can) out of banks. The covered banks are supposed to pay these assessments or premiums, but from where will that money come? Only one place. If a train is bearing down on you, the best strategy is don't be there. In order to soothe the concerns of the proletariat, they increased the so-called "coverage". If there are insufficient assets to complete that coverage then the "coverage" might as well be $10,000,000.00 or some other absurd figure. It would be just as worthless. They'll paper-over this situation.
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So if they get these prepaid fees, they will be left at
essentially ZERO since they already are on the hook for the 45 Billion that it will raise. This of course does not take into account any further failures, especially ones precipitated by the fact that the FDIC is now insolvent.
Anyhow, I don't expect Obama or Congress will allow Bair to keep going without tapping the line of credit they have. They can't risk a massive run, much less without any way to take over failed institutions.
And what's of this "massive liquidity of the banking system" that she wants to tap into? If the banks are so liquid, why do they need our tax dollars? If they are so liquid, why even bother asking for money up front? If they are so liquid, there should be no fear that it won't be there and paid when they need it right?
Nope, the realization is that there is NO liquidity in the banks, they aren't just illiquid, they are INSOLVENT. But how taking more money from them now and putting the squeeze on them further is going to help is beyond me.
Thanks for this story
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I used it in a MAJOR thread in my local forums where I have been called "paranoid" for discussing all the spects of this collapse.
Here's that thread:
Stock market plunging into pit of despair (IS BEING DONE ON PURPOSE BY GLOBALISTS)
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www.vaclib.org
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www.vaclib.org
Tell them to pull some money out of their banks.
Keep it at home in a safe place.
It is not making much interest anyway. If TSHTF, at least they will have some cash on hand.
they will print their way
they will print their way out...
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
They are just pretending nothing is going on
and the people want to play along, so it will all keep spinning around.
People ought to run the banks - it is the fiscally responsible thing to do, it is the politically expedient thing to do, it is the morally correct thing to do. But the TV won't tell them to do it... no the nice TV says everything is fine, Precious. Yess, yess, we have our TV, Precious, we are going to be OK... Gollum!
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
When will the people learn?
These roosters in office do nothing but Eat $h(eye)t and Flock. Time for some Crow Stew!
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Who gives a cluck. Just make it a clean egg-sit.
i wonder if there's enough of us
to do it?
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
I'm doing my best rocketman
My account is -400+ right now. So I can't run the bank ;)
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Who gives a cluck. Just make it a clean egg-sit.
i hear you brother
and it ain't on purpose.
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
rocketman?
"it ain't on purpose"? I don't follow... translation please?
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Who gives a cluck. Just make it a clean egg-sit. Spiral Out...
it aint' on purpose
that draining my bank account would be of little help.
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul