MSNBC Morning Joe Crew attacks Nurses protesting NWO Mandatory vaccines
Submitted by sharpsteve on Wed, 09/30/2009 - 15:34
Nurses and those supporting them called Crazies and Koo koo.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/#33087106
Fox news joins in on the bashing
Vaccine Refusing Nurse Verses CDC Bootlicker Shepard Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O8bP5grbvY
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I'd love to see Snyderman and Smith shoot each other up.........
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....either with syringes or crossbows.
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That funny... it just like getting some new furniture in
your condo... except that you have to take it and it has some anthrax in the cushions.
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Flashback 2008 - Hong Kong Bird Flu outbreak in VAX'd chickens
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From Dec of 2008 - MAINSTREAM MEDIA !!!!
Hong Kong Reports New Bird Flu Outbreak
Hong Kong is reporting another outbreak of avian influenza, or bird flu, among chickens at one of the city’s largest poultry farms. Officials are concerned because the chickens were vaccinated against the virus. The city is culling birds and shutting down the local poultry industry for 21 days, Time Magazine reports.
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Here's what I said in my local forums about this story - SIX months before this H1N1 "outbreak":
http://forums.theledger.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2631062365/m/...
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Wow, that video with Shep
Wow, that video with Shep smith was nuts. That guy must be vying for O'Reilly's position. The nurse did well countering him and she said nothing wrong and then suddenly he just started going nuts on her about how great and never wrong the CDC is. He is the biggest phony on earth. There are vast numbers of families of autistic children and other sufferers who will say otherwise. I'm so glad the health care workers are standing up against this violation. The important fact that he glossed over was that the drug is fast tracked and not tested as the nurse stated. The way Shep wanted to stay on a constrained part of the topic - that the medical people object on principal of violating their bodies, seems very suspect to me...sheesh its as if he was worried he would be punished for allowing the interview to get off topic from the scripted talking points. I'm going to have to re-watch the segment to see how he introduced it.
Dr Nancy as a vaccine "expert" is a joke
She is on the staff of U Penn hospital, sharing the campus with such open-minded colleagues as Dr Paul Offit. Offit is the most vocal supporter of vaccine safety, as he should be since he is filthy rich as the inventor of the rotavirus (diarrhea) vaccine. He has been quoted as saying that it would be perfectly safe for a baby to receive over 1000 vaccines (I don't believe he volunteered his grandchildren to demonstrate that claim).
Snyderman is a certified surgeon, her field of study is not immunology. She has probably never given a vaccine to a patient in her life. She has no more to add to the vaccine debate than the average pediatric nurse.
He actually said 10,000 vaccines "safely" at one time
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That is nuts
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Here's the exact quote
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From: PEDIATRICS Vol. 109 No. 1 January 2002, pp. 124-129
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Here are some facts for the ignorant fools making stupid
comments in this thread.
They picked a nurse who was ill prepared to answer Mr. Smiths questions
but that should not surprise anyone here unless you lack knowledge.
So read and find out how we are being misled about vaccines. VACCINES ARE DANGEROUS.
If this gets you curious then go on www.garynull.com and read some more
about vaccines then you will know for sure that you have been lied to and only 250 or so people die from the flu each year if even that many.
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Flu Vaccines: Are They Effective and Safe ? Microsoft Word Document
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The CDC Misinterprets Influenza Death Statistics
The official CDC website states that approximately 36,000 Americans die from the flu annually. We repeatedly hear this figure reported by officials and in the media across the nation, hence making flu infection the seventh cause of death in the US. But the reality is very different. The CDC’s own website reports mortality rates under the heading “influenza/pneumonia.” Dr. David Rosenthal, Director of Harvard University’s Health Services, brings clarity to this confusion. Most of these so-called flu deaths are in fact pneumonias—not even viral pneumonias—and secondary infections. Furthermore, a study in the Journal of the American Medical Academy shows that many of these deaths are a result of pneumonias acquired by patients taking stomach acid suppressing drugs.
For example, if we are to take the combined figure of flu and pneumonia deaths for the flu period of 2001, and add a bit of spin to the figures, we are left believing that 62,034 people died from influenza. The actual figures are 61,777 died from pneumonia and only 257 from flu. Even more amazing, in those 257 cases, only 18 were scientifically identified as positive for the flu virus. A separate study conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics for the flu periods between 1979 and 2002 reveals that the range of annual flu deaths were between 257 and 3006, for an average of 1,348 per year.i
How does the CDC respond to this discrepancy reported by the Harvard scientist? Read carefully the CDC’s own statement.
“Typically, influenza causes death when the infection leads to severe medical complications… [and as most such cases] are never tested for virus infection… CDC considers these figures to be very substantial undercounting of the true number of deaths from influenza. Therefore, the CDC uses indirect modeling methods to estimate the number of deaths associated with influenza.” In an earlier 2003 article JAMA, William Thompson from the CDC’s National Immunization Program attempted to explain “influenza-associated mortality.” He wrote, “Based on modeling, we think it’s associated. I don’t know that we would say that it’s the underlying cause of death.”ii
In summary, the CDC is admitting 1) the deceased are not tested to determine the presence of the flu virus, and 2) they do not directly perform any direct testing to determine the exact cause of death but rather “indirect modeling methods” as a professional way of saying subjective mathematical equations to arrive at their figures. The 36,000 mortality figure is nothing more than a mathematical model. The British journal concluded that the only possible rationale for the CDC’s complete disregard for scientific fact, even in face of independent research to discredit its statistics, is a public relations effort between the CDC and the vaccine manufacturer’s campaigns to increase flu vaccination.
There can be little doubt about this after statements presented by the CDC’s National Immunization Program’s spokesperson, Glen Nowak, at the 2004 National Influenza Vaccine Summit—co-sponsored by the CDC and the American Medical Association. Nowak outlined the CDC’s “Seven Step Recipe for Generating Interest In, and Demand for, Flu Vaccination.” One step requires “medical experts and public health authorities publicly.. [to] state concern and alarm (and predict dire outcomes)” to encourage influenza vaccination. Another step is “continued reports.. that influenza is causing severe illness and/or affecting lots of people, helping to foster the perception that many people are susceptible to a bad case of influenza.” iii
Why was the “Seven Step Recipe” implemented? Dr. Nowak publicly stated the CDC’s reasons on National Public Radio, “… the manufacturers were telling us that they weren’t receiving a lot of orders for vaccine for use in November or even December [of 2003]… It really did look like we [CDC] needed to do something to encourage people to get a flu shot.iv
Now that we have a better understanding of how the CDC calculated its statistics in the past and expert confirmation from renown publications and scientists that such data is erroneous, what do we find on the CDC website under the heading “Influenza Death Statistics” as of September 2009—five years after the published denunciation of the CDC’s erroneous calculations for influenza?
“For pneumonia and influenza (P&I) deaths, CDC estimates approximately 8,000 deaths are associated with seasonal flu. This represents 9.8% of (P&I) deaths. For respiratory and circulatory (R&C) deaths, CDC estimates approximately 36,000 deaths are associated with seasonal flu. This represents 3.1 percent of those deaths. For all-cause deaths, CDC estimates that approximately 51,000 deaths are associated with seasonal flu. This represents 2.2% of all deaths.v
How did the CDC arrive at these conclusions? The CDC site now continues to restate its scientifically flawed methodology: “Statistical modeling was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death on their death certificate was listed as a respiratory and circulatory disease.”vi This is clearly an indication of policy turned dogmatic that disregards sound scientific evidence proving their errors. It is all business as usual, disregard the critics, and full speed ahead.
Canadian health authorities are at least a bit more transparent over their investigations into vaccination results than the American government health cartel. However, like the US, they still report completely erroneous conclusions based on their own data. Every year Health Canada publicizes their laboratory results of swabs received from people with Influenza-Like Illnesses (ILI). Consistently the statistics show that approximately 95 percent of cases are attributable to pathogens, such as adenoviruses, rhinoviruses, para influenza and others, instead of the flu virus.vii Clinically, the symptoms appear very much the same, and unless laboratory tests with high specificity are performed, nobody can distinguish between what is a real flu infection from what might be any large number of different pathogenic infections giving flu-like symptoms.
During the 2004-2005 flu season, the Canada Communicable Disease Report showed that of the 68,849 laboratory tests performed for influenza, only 14.9% tested positive for a flu virus. All the remaining 85.1% specimens were a result of other pathogens impervious to flu vaccines.viii For the following 2005-2006 season, Health Canada received 68,439 confirmed tests for influenza like infections. Of these, only 6,580, or 10.4% confirmed positive for influenza. The rest, 89.6%, were other pathogens.ix Canadian health officials, nevertheless, disregarded their own statistics and continue their public relations campaign to boost the perception that the flu vaccine is 70-90% effective. In a debate published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal, Italian epidemiologist Dr. Vittorio Demicheli, now a colleague of Dr. Tom Jefferson at the Cochrane Database Group stated that Canada’s claims are “both wrong and misleading… and refers only to the ability of the vaccine to produce antibodies effective against the virus. But his is not the important measure of vaccine efficacy. Instead, we should measure the ability of the vaccine to prevent clinical disease, in this case influenza. By this measure, vaccine efficacy is no greater than 25%.”x
To further complicate matters regarding influenza-like-illnesses attributed to non-influenza pathogens, there is also evidence showing that flu symptoms are synonymous with symptoms caused by toxic levels of pesticides, herbicides and fluoride. During his sworn testimony before a Congressional Hearing in the 1960s, Dr. Granville Knight, former president of the American Academy of Nutrition, stated, “waves of so-called ‘Virus X’ and similar diseases… are caused by exposure to such agricultural chemicals; [and] that it is impossible for doctors to diagnose the difference between London flu, virus conditions and pesticide poisoning.”xi This is an area of research that has been essentially boned and should be reviewed.
In August 2009, Swiss immunologist Dr. Beda Stadler at the Institute of Immunology at the University of Bern reported in European papers that based on his research and analysis, the swine flu has already ended through much of Europe and the United States. Dr. Stadler claims “the dangerous pandemic virus has mutated into a simple summer flu.”xii A different but equally reassuring independent conclusion on September 1, 2009 from the University of Maryland predicts the H1N1 will very unlikely mutate “in a natural way” into a more virulent virus.xiii It would appear therefore that any dangers for a new and more virulent strain of H1N1 emerging would more readily be the result of vaccination. The important expression is “in a natural way.” What is not being taken into consideration in any manner by the vaccine industrial complex is the fact that human bodies are also superb incubators for viruses, and perhaps introducing viruses into our bloodstream, along with the numerous known and unknown genetic contamination found in vaccines, are giving rise to new strains of virus. However, chasing the origins of a new strain of flu virus would be as successful as standing on a beach and trying to find that one sand granule that is older than all the others.
The Wall Street Journal in April 2009 reported that the WHO grossly inflated the number of flu deaths reported as much as 15-fold. The actual confirmed swine flu deaths in Mexico were 7 instead 152. When the CDC reports flu mortality statistics, they are lumped in the same category with all pneumonia deaths. According to the independent vaccine journalist, Wynne Alexander, “this is patently ridiculous… this is just insanity on its face, and the CDC is comfortable with that.”xiv If we think for a moment only about the number of deaths among the elderly from pneumonia infection, and then consider that the figures being published by the government health agencies to support their dire warnings for a presumed epidemic in October include pneumonia deaths, then it should be clear that H1N1 infection dangers are far less than the government and vaccine makers want the nation to believe. This conclusion is actually supported by a relatively recent study published by the National Institutes of Health in 2005 that surveyed three decades of data on mortality rates among the elderly. The study, aired on Canada TV, discovered that flu shots for elderly American citizens did not save any lives.xv
Small children between 6 and 24 months are being recommended for the front of the vaccination line by the CDC. The agency’s rationale remains unclear. However, biologists at Clemson University have determined that children under the age of 5 are the least likely to transmit swine flu. Therefore, the researchers recommend that smaller children not be given such a high ranking on the government’s priority risk group list.xvi
The chairman of the Health Committee in the German Parliament, Dr. Wolfang Wodarg, stated to the Neuen Presse that the swine vaccine and the so-called pandemic “is great business for the pharmaceutical industry.”xvii In actual fact, the majority of independent science, unbiased by pharmaceutical corporate financing, has very well shown that the swine flu is not very different from normal season flu and does not warrant any special, dramatic alarm.
Dr. Marc Girard is a medical specialist in drug adverse effects. He was commissioned by the French courts as a medical witness on the swine flu vaccine’s safety. During an interview on French television, Dr. Girard stated, “A vaccine is being developed in conditions of amateurism such as I have never seen before. Let’s take the pessimistic hypothesis: one death among every 1000 patients. There are plans to vaccinate 60 million people, and so you already have 60,000 deaths, and this time, young people, children and pregnant women.” Dr. Viera Scheibner comments on this scenario: “The swine flu vaccination is just a hoax. It’s an attempt to create a pandemic so that they can sell a lot of vaccines.”xviii
According to Nancy Cox, Director of the Influenza Division at the Centers of Disease Control, “intensive analysis” studies seem to indicate that the novel H1N1 variant has lower respiratory transmission than the common seasonal H1N1 flu.xix
The WHO is estimating that 2 billion or approximately one third of the world’s population might become infected during the course of the next two years. In the US, the CDC estimates that “swine flu could strike up to 40 percent of Americans.”xx For this reason, world and national health agencies are mobilizing rapidly a massive vaccination campaign to vaccinate as much of the planets population as possible. The Director General of the WHO, Dr. Margaret Chan, estimates that vaccine makers could produce 4.9 billion pandemic flu shots.xxi
International scholar of political and social affairs, Michel Chossudovsky, states, “There is ample evidence, documented in numerous reports, that the WHO’s level 6 pandemic alert is based on fabricated evidence and a manipulation of the figures on mortality and morbidity resulting from the H1N1 swine flu.” Chossudovsky has uncovered evidence that the CDCP and WHO are “recategorizing a large number of cases of common influenza as H1N1 swine flu.”xxii
Vaccinate them on the air
Do it!
Roll up your sleeves and take your medicine!
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I wonder, I wonder if we could sue her if
anyone became sick from the swine flu shot or the flu shot? She came off as a know it all, but hey, believe the govt. They never lie, except in rare cases like the Tuskegee experiment or the swine flu or North com or Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or.....and years later he gives up on taking up for this honest govt.
Pat Buchanan backed her up against the wall
you tell her Pat...Dr. Nancy oh give me a break...
she probably has the same credentials as Dr. Phil
Wouldn't you feel terrible telling all the viewers that happen to watch that show, "I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that you would be paralyzed for life."
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sad.....let's mass email them with info.
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Shep Smith Wrong About Children
Children do not have to be vaccinated in order to attend school. Only two states do not allow exemptions: West Virginia and Mississippi. All other states have exemptions. Get an exemption form from your state or county health department. Do not vaccinate your children!
Snyderman knows nothing
Snyderman knows nothing about the devestation caused by a time bomb delivered thru vaccines starting 54 years ago. The polio vaccine given from 1955 to 1963 used rhesus monkey kidney cells to prepare the vaccines and were infected with the SV40 virus (Simian Virus-40). SV40 was found to cause tumors in rodents. More recently, the virus was found in certain forms of cancer in humans. There's also a possibility it caused the start of AIDs.
Of all the reasons not to take the shots, the only reasons that make it to the msm have to do with the nwo.
I hope that whole group
who are lying on MSNBC morning joe, die horrible deaths. I wish no peace upon them for their lies. Adding some new furniture..oh you mean like squalene ....is that a joke.. Jesus.
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This lady is clearly an imbecile
She called the failure of the last swine flu vaccine "an aberration." What a joke? She looked real bad from that point on in the interview.
Wow
can someone say "parallel realities?" Good job Pat Buchanan for putting this phony doc on the defensive and making her look foolish and alarmist.
Bad move.
This is going to be ugly when it blows back. Nurses are pretty well respected by the people they treat.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
blow back isn't real, where have you been? :)
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huh?
I never said blowback was not real, just that blowback does not make buildings fall at near free fall speeds into their own footprint following rather insignificant fires. Blowback explains much of the foreign policy problems we face, but it is a cop out as an explanation for 9-11.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Sorry for repeating myself too often
but remember, the hostess of that show is Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter. She is his "plant" in the media. FEMA was Brzezinski's brainchild- he's always seen the potential of medical emergencies to establish a dictatorship. It's something to think about.
"Swine flu never got out of Ft Dix?
What did Dr Snyderman mean by that statement?
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http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/03/dayint...
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/27/science/sci-swine-hi...
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol12no01/05-1007.htm
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The 1976 outbreak started ( and I guess ended) on Ft Dix
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What a witch...
She mocks people for wanting their right to make up their own minds about what to put in their bodies respected. Typical government-licensed-tax-feeder doctor mentality.
People who are CRAZY
are the ones who want to FORCE unproven, unknown substances, by needlepoint, into other sovereign individuals.
MSNBC has long since proven that they are a part of the love-less crazy train that allows for aggressive force for mythical "general welfare" - which really means special interest group benefit.
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