Gold advice? Stockbroker sent me this email
Ive been arguing with him about gold as an investment for a few years.This is his latest email earlier today.Can someone tell me if its a good idea or not. Thanks
email= " gld is the same thing as buying gold it follows gold futures to the penny so my trade is simple your thesis is that gold is going up and the dollar is going to the floor. If this is the case by shorting the euro and sterling currencies and buying long the gld. You in fact take the dollar currency which u get paid in and take the risk out of it all together. For ei. Gold can be down $20 dollars but because you are short euro and sterling in real terms your gold position actually made dollars because u hedged your currency position to absorb the weakness in the dollar, but if the dollar strengthens which I believe it will your commodity will go down in price b/c it has the inverse effect.. so there u go..
the currency short protects your dollar risk. In other words it does you no good if gold goes up in price and the dollar falls in price b/c you buy and sell both with the same currency, but if u hedge the currency then gold can go up and the dollar can go down and you make money on both the gold and the dollar b/c its hedged..
smarten up!!!
IF YOU BUY GOLD IN DOLLARS AND THE DOLLAR GOES DOWN IN PRICE B/C GOLD GOES UP IN PRICE THEN WHERE DID U MAKE MONEY ONCE YOU SELL YOUR GOLD BACK??
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Thanks
great advice
buy commodities such as
Wheat, orange juice or the like... then try to eat them or the paper that says you actually own those items... tasty
or you could actually go out and buy a bag of wheat or a bottle of orange juice.
If you want to invest with the possibility of losing or gaining, I guess you can go ahead. I buy coins and hold on to them... if things go bad and I need wheat or orange juice and the almighty dollar has gone down its inevitable path, I am still in business.
“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” - George Bernard Shaw
wants are unlimited, means are scarce...
....where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is LIBERTY. 2 Corinthians 3:17(b)
***wants are unlimited, means are scarce...***
dont listen to this bullshit
im a stockbroker myself with raymond james investing in gold since 2002, for one gld is garbage your better off with cef central fund of canada they are honest gld is nothing but a shill for for the wallstreet con artist firms who are the ones shorting the comex. i rather own goldcorp, kinross, hecla, eldorado and yamana. what i do is everytime my clients get a big run like the month of september we had 30 percent profits in gold stocks i sold out the profit and told them to go down to their local coin dealer and buy the real thing instead of empty paper promises of wallstreet. they have sold so many paper tickets on gold that doesnt exist in the end people are not gonna have anything return to them except worthless paper dollars. what your broker is doing is assuming the relationship will remain the same and i have learned after 25 years on wallstreet the relationships of markets never stay the same thats why people get burnt. the fed is going to inflate away its debt so stay patient as the dollar will lose at least 50 percent of its value in the next few years. in the end the dow and the price of gold will meet im sure of that. good luck.
GLD is a trading vehicle
Your broker wants you to make multiple short term trades. This is a lot different than buying and holding gold or its equivalent in a brokerage account. Buy physical gold, central gold trust (GTU), or central fund (CEF)- gold&silver. These funds have better audit procedures and have been around a lot longer than the bank sponsored etfs.
If you like trading, try gold stocks. These things really move. Some have doubled or tripled this year.
There are many ways to make or lose money in the gold market. I think your brokers plan is a bit convoluted. It is best to keep things simple.
Buy Physical And Take Delivery
Gold outperformed the S&P 500 by a wide margin over the last 10 years
The GLD ETF may be a fraud. They may not have as much physical gold as they claim. They lend out their gold for short selling, and you may be stuck.
Gold is a better investment than the stock market. The only way to be safe is to buy and take physical delivery.
Your broker is advising against gold, because he earns a commission based on what you buy and sell. If you buy-and-hold gold, then your broker gets no commission.
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Another thought
You could buy UGL which is 2x leveraged gold, and which will go to the moon if the dollar drops. It does not claim to be physical gold that is held. Yes, the dollar will be worth less, but you will have twice as many to easily pay off everything you owe (mortgage, credit cards, etc.) and still have some left to buy a bottle of milk.
thanks
nice point!
The man is a complete idiot --- RUN from him and his "advice"!
Ask this short-sighted and blinkered fool, what happens when the dollar AND the euro AND the pound all go down, together? As they are bound to do, and in fact are doing now. He talks as if the net effect of shorting those other currencies is net value neutral, when in fact ALL fiat currencies are in a long-term downward trajectory --- the daily ups and downs of their relative exchange rates is meaningless in the longer term. Yes, any currency may go up RELATIVE to another, but ALL (fiat) currencies are losing value over time. His advice is little different than telling you to stuff dollar bills in your mattress as a form of "savings". Oh, and he clearly doesn't understand the benefits of holding PHYSICAL gold in the slightest. The man is a brainwashed, follow-the-herd sheep, and following his advice will only result in you joining the herd as they plunge over the cliff of dollar devaluation and collapse.
owning gold is for
owning gold is for preservation of wealth with potential upside. it is to keep your todays dollars value when the gold is sold
Gold bugs need to
get over the whole "how many FNR's can I trade for my PMs" kick. Unless they are a bug in heart but not in practice (ie don't actually own any). Then that should be a big worry.
But the idea of it is you will be able to buy the same amount of goods and services per ounce today as you would in 50 years. Probably a little more, with natural deflation and all. FNR's be damned!
(Although I am currently recommending the USD long for a while and short term treasuries even more heavily. I also think gold hits $650 an ounce soon enough).
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It's October and I'm 80% cash and 20% long term Puts AGAINST the market. Gold is also going down. Want to know why?
http://www.investophoria.com
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Progress is precisely that which the rules and regulations did not foresee. - Ludwig Von Mises.
agreed
I only buy physical gold coins and silver bars
lmao... gld is NOT the same
lmao... gld is NOT the same thing as GOLD.. if you can't touch it you don't own it.. he is pulling this crap because when you go buy a physical coin he does not get his commision... tell this idiot to shove off.. buy physical.. take delivery..
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.