Man, I'm getting slammed!
Submitted by JoeDanger on Fri, 10/02/2009 - 15:04
For saying in my fb status that it's a good thing Chicago didn't get the Olympics. Making me out to be a hater of the working man! I see it as an opportunity to educate. Any input?
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Obama personally working to
Obama personally working to get Chicago the Olympics really seemed to be an inappropriate preferential treatment by the President.
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For what it's worth, here's my reply...
I love a good debate. Here's my conclusion...
I am not anti-Chicago, I love this town! I am not anti-jobs either, and do feel for the people who are out of work at the moment, it sucks. Real unemployment is over 20% (Great Depression numbers!) and the only way to alleviate that is to return Americas economic system to an environment that encourages production and manufacturing. We have to start making things again, and not just buying things. We need to start saving, not spending. Demanding short term gain for long term hardship is not looking at the big picture.
I do not believe it is a capitalistic governments role to produce jobs for people. If that were the case, they could turn on a printing press and hire people to dig holes, then hire other people to fill them back up! Magic jobs! Thankfully, the economy does not work that way. The governments role in the economy is to provide a sound currency for people to use in the exchange of goods and services. (Also, protect from fraud.) America is failing to do that. The IOC probably realizes this, and understands that America is in a slow decline, circling the drain as it were. This is not to infer that the IOC is some bastion of light and goodness in the world.... Read More
The IOC will pretty much sue anyone who uses 5 rings in any configuration as a logo, so they can take their "brotherhood of man" chicanery elsewhere as far as I'm concerned. Even using the word "olympics" in a way not approved by committee causes much teeth gnashing and furrowed brows among the bureaucrats. The IOC is made up mostly of wealthy European socialists, who complained about all the souvenir stands during the Atlanta olympics. Private capitalists (ie, regular people who printed tee-shirts and buttons to sell) were deemed "beneath the olympic ideal". But the capitalist television revenue that comes from broadcasting the games is welcomed. Hypocrite much?
The olympics has traditionally been used to showcase smaller cities on the world stage that are up-and-coming and trying to make a name for themselves. Chicago is already a world-renown city, which will still draw many tourists yearly, regardless of whether it hosts an orgy of massive government spending, tax-payer raping nationalistic pandering. (unless people start getting sick of the repugnant TSA) It's also important to remember that government doesn't "have" money. The only money it has is what it steals from the citizens. Government isn't known for creating wealth, but for destroying it.
Bringing jobs to Chicago, should not be dependent on the Olympics being held here. Sure, people would work for a time, but at the expense of the taxpayer (ie socialism). It's not a sustainable job, as the temporary workers will go right back to being unemployed after the games are over because the fundamental problems will still be there, and now the tax burden will only be higher. The work is unproductive, because there is no real demand for new stadiums, villages, etc. It's make work jobs, mixed with crony capitalism and political influence peddling. How upsetting that certain administration officials won't be able to flip their inner city properties for 5x profit now! Or that Axlerods company won't get the communications deal he was set to win. Darn, now they can't justifiably subsidize moving low-income people out of the city! And more...
If the olympics had been brought to Chicago, the losers would have been the taxpayers. At least now we know about the "rainy day fund" and perhaps use it on something that will actually benefit the taxpayer, instead of placing another yoke of IOU's and debt enslavement around them.
Besides all that however, maybe, just maybe, the world is beginning to resent the United States. Screwing up the world economy using a ponzi scheme monetary system, enabled by a private group of unelected elite bankers, may have caused some nations to sit up and take notice, and dismiss the notion of rewarding such behavior. Maybe dropping bombs on women and children who have done nothing to harm us isn't the best way to lobby for international favours. America needs to get it's house in order, before it can start hosting any parties.
Lastly, cities that host the olympics, tend to brutalize the poor.
http://www.straight.com/olympic-cities-punish-poor.
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I think I got my point across. Thanks DP'ers for your input!
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To me it's a non-issue...
Sports are a great distraction from the point of view of government and the FED while they pull levers and turn dials to devalue our money.
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Notice the stories about Chicago gangs?
While Obama is trying to sell Chicago to the Olympics, MSM is aring stories about street gangs. What's up with that?
I think Obama is going to start cleaning up gangs in the USA the way the USA cleans up Al Qaida and Taliban.
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I don't think it was malicious
It seems that Chicago is just always in the news for crime
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The International Olympic Commitee saved Chicago from the poorhouse by rejecting their bid for the Olympics
http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/the-ioc-saves-chi...
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Not that I'm immune to those
Not that I'm immune to those "Open mouth, insert foot" moments, but, if you ask me, the media images of those animals beating the honor student to death in South Chicago probably blew any chance of the Olympics being held there.
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Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
Chicago doesn't deserve the Olympics.
Why should every American pay to line the pockets of the most politically corrupt city and state in the union? Chicago and Illinois needs to clean their act up.
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Cities that host the Olympics
tend to brutalize the homeless and poor. So you can post this link:
http://www.straight.com/olympic-cities-punish-poor
and take the higher moral ground.
Thanks for the link! Used it
Thanks for the link! Used it in my argument!
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World Hates Us and since our Corporate Government is broke we don't have the clout we used too. Also, maybe when we STOP invading countries and torturing and killing it's citizens and building HUGE embassies for our invading army, they will consider us.
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I live in a suburb of Chicago..
Heres what I have been arguing locally...
The City was set to buy property that housed low income families. They are in actuality projects of sorts.. Obamas girl Valerie Jarrett owned alot of property that was coincidentally in prime location for the new Olympic Village that they wanted to build.. She would have made alot of money and it would have been a huge political favor to her considering she backed Obama...
The crux of it is that those displaced tenants would have been given incentives to leave Chicago and go to surrounding areas.. The last time they destroyed projects in Chicago ( Cabrini Green ), they moved the residents to small local towns and cities by offering to pay the moving expense through a generous moving allowance.This program has destroyed our local communities.. The residents have brought with them crime and resurgent s of Heroin traffic in a town that maybe busted 1 person a year for heroin prior.. Now the crime is up 5%( thats violent crime) in a 1 year period and we have had two murders of senior citizens( seperate occasions and home invasions) and 37 armed robberies...
Try some of that or just tell them that you may not like what they say, but you would defend their rights to say it..
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"......
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"......
Hey thanks! I had heard
Hey thanks! I had heard something about that, but was unsure of the details! I'm definitely going to point that out.
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For an informed citizenry, individuals must discard the television set in favor of the acquisition of information via either books and/or the internet. An uneducated populous will remain in ignorance and thus continue to suffer the sharp ax of tyranny.
Wasn't Obama Girl a Nader supporter?
Come to the Olympics in Chicago; get shanked.
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The International Olympic Commitee Saves Chicago
http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/the-ioc-saves-chi...
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depends
how/what they're slamming you with, what they're saying.
America, the Greatest Nation On This Earth (tm)... vs. Rio... who do they think needs more help? As if the Olympics will help... but anyway, why do they hate poor brown people? Why are they so selfish that they want to take this opportunity from a growing nation and give it to the nation that has "Everything"? Don't they have any hearts?
Not really a Great response, but it's one that might shut them up. Nobody want to be a racist who takes from the poor who are working really really hard to better themselves.
Chicago already had a world's fair, they had their turn. And what did they give us? Al Capone through Prohibition. By the way, how Is that prohibition thing working out for us?
I dunno, different directions you can take it depending what they're saying.
seems like an unneccesary
seems like an unneccesary potshot at Obama, and the kind of thing the RNC would rather us talk about than the real issues.
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Sound advice
Don't put any "status" on facebook. It eventually circles the retard wagons. Facebook, Myspace, Twitter = children's social sites. My opinion shared my many. Several will disagree, but that is their opinion any they are entitled to it.
Do you think Warren Buffet or Bill Gates uses facebook personally? I rest my case. This is the Daily Paul, not the Daily Chicago. If you mentioned on your FB page something along the lines of,"I support Ron Paul's qwest to end the Fed" and you received flak, this is where "we" come in to help. Get the picture?
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Joe: Try bouncing this stuff off of the sheeple.
Top 10 Reasons Chicago Didn't Get the Olympics [Rich Lowry]
An e-mail:
10. Dead people can't vote at IOC meetings
9. Obama distracted by 25 min meeting with Gen. McChrystal
8. Who cares if Obama couldn't talk the IOC into Chicago? He'll be able to talk Iran out of nukes.
7. The impediment is Israel still building settlements.
6. Obviously no president would have been able to acomplish it.
5. We've been quite clear and said all along that we didn't want the Olympics.
4. This isn't about the number of Olympics "lost", it's about the number of Olympics "saved" or "created".
3. Clearly not enough wise Latina judges on the committee
2. Because the IOC is racist.
1. It's George Bush's fault.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/index.p
you could say
"hey it's just my opinion, you don't have to beat me to death."
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I talked about it a little in my blog today
But in short, it's really about spending money today that you won't see a return on for seven years, if you even break even at all. Chicago, like the rest of the nation is going through a recession, and it's the working man who would footing the bill if Chicago went over their budget or failed to raise the money to pay for promotions and infrastructure.
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The International Olympic Commitee Saves Chicago
http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/the-ioc-saves-chi...
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Like the other forum said
another IOU for the taxpayer that may never happen! Also, as I mentioned before, those with a good economy hold influence, hence Brazil...Tell them to vote differently next time and maybe we'd have the influence to bring in an event like this, but people are starting to hate the American bankers and administration because of all the crooks, now the world is looking elsewhere.
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Consequences
Message to America: Being an arrogant, brutal, international bully has consequences. Sometimes they fly a plane into your skyscrapers, sometimes they deny you the Olympics. If you don't want to be hated by the rest of the world, stop pushing people around and try minding your own business.
Acala~that sounds very RonPaul-ish!
I really like it! ; - )
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Acala~that one gets my vote!
I don't think they will "get it" though : -(
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Nope
They aren't having the Olympics in Chicago because they hate our freedom!!! Hahahaha! What's left of it.
Opportunity to educate what
Care to elaborate? I personally would have loved Chicago since my community would've hosted the bike races for the olympics.
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Play the racecard
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