Home-schooled students in Allegheny County required to be vaccinated
From the following article:
Over 2,000 Allegheny County students miss school over vaccination proof
More than 2,000 Allegheny County students were kept out of school yesterday because they missed a vaccination deadline, school officials said.
Beginning this school year, all public, private and home-schooled students in Allegheny County were required to be immunized against chicken pox, whooping cough and meningitis. Parents had to provide proof of the new shots or sign exemption forms by Oct. 1.
Is this something new?
I have NEVER heard of home-schooled kids being subject to these tyrannical vaccination policies.
Why would anyone at this point even get SS #s for their kids OR tell the state they are home schooling?
It's almost as dumb as registering your guns - - they know where to find 'em.
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In case some of you haven't seen the following related thread
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Warning....do NOT get your newborns Social Security Numbers
Although I suppose if they start having roadblocks and vaccine-bracelets being issued, then the SS# issue may be moot.
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All registered homeschooled children in PA
are required to receive a long list of vaccinations. Religious and medical exemptions are available. But you cannot just say, "I won't take the vaccine because I believe it is dangerous."
There are many, many unregistered homeschoolers in Pennsylvania. That's what the state gets for having some of the strictest laws in the country. But the unregistered ones are very vulnerable to retribution if the state finds out. It goes to show how little freedom is left. Even if you and your spouse have Ph.D's, you may not just teach your child without reporting to the school district. (Which produces children of very mediocre intelligence, on the whole.) I hope someday America recovers from these dark ages of education.
In theory, couldn't one set
In theory, couldn't one set up residency in another state and claim they only live in their current state part year and therefore follow the lenient homeschool regulations from their home state? I suppose this would be difficult for divorced parents with split custody, but for married parents it could be an option while citizens work to change the laws for the better.
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Great point !!!!
and NO COMMENT.....hehehehehe.
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That's very disturbing, indeed
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Parents are now put in a position of having to skirt the law in order to protect their children.
I suppose it's a gamble.
But one sure thing is that if your kids are on the radar, the authorities ARE at the moment and WILL see to it that you lose more and more control over their health, education and welfare.
EVERYONE will soon be breaking the law - as did Anne Frank's family and family-friends...........as did Harriet Tubman, and many others too numerous to mention.
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That's interesting.
I haven't thought about that idea before...that eventually everyone will be breaking the law. But it only makes sense that the more outrageous and demanding the laws become, the less people will be willing to comply. Especially if compliance is hard and doesn't offer any personal benefit over the risks of non-compliance.
I just hope before it's all over that I get to see hoards of people resisting tyranny and not just submitting to it.
I "feel" for all you present-day Home-Schoolers -- It was easier
for us in the 90's.
I remember when people hardly even knew what home-schooling was -- those that did would parrot the oft-puffed "what about socialization" comment and that was it.
My daughter is the most popular and outspoken among her friends at college -- she's a natural ring leader, smile.
She has a very diverse set of friends who deeply respect her insight.
She has never had one vaccination from 5 on. I think she got an MMR shot at birth or near that age before we understood vaccinations.
No matter we were raw foodists and frutarians for a number of years after that -- so it's all been washed out, smile.
She's rarely ever sick and has been in college part-time and full-time since 2004.
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Are there any vaccinations that kids should get?
I remember getting a TB shot when I was younger. I don't have kids and this vaccination crap is making want it to stay that way. So are you saying, no shots from birth or some might be worth while?
GPS: The MMR Vaccination is harmless
If I knew then what I know now I would have avoided that one too.
I had to get a TB / Polio Vaccinaiton to be a part-time substitute teacher out of college.
I had no side effects.
I don't believe in the diabolical nature of vaccinations -- I think if 1000 people died it would be bad for business.
No I approach the debate from a economic and health perspective.
#1 I see no health benefit short of preachy-hysteria
#2 They are fully subsidized -- I take no subsidized drugs
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Sacred cow
The issue of vaccinations is a sacred cow amongst the conventional medical world. Most of us doctors are conditioned to believe that "the benefits outweigh the risks" and are provided anecdotal stories of such pandemics as polio. In other words, so the browbeating goes, imagine a world without the polio vaccine... how many people would be damaged?
As a physician who's studied lots of evidence suggesting that vaccinations receive more praise than they deserve and do more harm than the medical community is willing to acknowledge (and I might add that my step-son is autistic, and that my wife highly suspects his vaccinations to be contributory), I still approach the subject lightly with my pro-vaccination colleagues. It's part of their public health religion. I was flunked from a pediatric rotation during my residency for suggesting to a parent that I wasn't so hot on vaccinations.
That being said, not all vaccinations are the same. This new swine flu vaccination is much more suspect than most. The fact that is largely untested, and that it's 1970's predecessor was pushed on the public with similar fear mongering and resulted in so many vaccination casualties gives more room to discuss and question this vaccination amongst medical types in terms of the "do no harm" credo.
As a physician, I say, "It's up to you, the patient. Do your own research and make your own choice." But I don't like them. I find their rationale illogical, certainly from a wholistic perspective. And with the possibility of RFID technology, etc in them, no way, no thanks.
Thank you so much!
I have had a difficult time with moving, mostly because it is not as easy to find a pediatrician that even understands the viewpoint, or will listen when I try to explain the reasons I dislike vaccines.
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Your input is HIGHLY appreciated
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There are more than one (and even two) sides to the coin.
Doctor Sparkles, did you see this article out of Australia?:
Former MP slams anti vaccine 'crackpots'
Excerpt:
So it's us against them........there's NO discussion or questioning......just demonizing those who are concerned and/or don't believe.
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NO shots are worth getting.
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I can PROVE it right now with this one website that has a BRILLIANT history of statistics/charts regarding how the diseases of which we vaccinated against were in about 90%-decline before those vaccination campaigns began.
This PROVES vaccines are a farce.
Again, this PROVES vaccines did not save us - end of story:
Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries of Official Statistics
Here's the opening paragraph to this site:
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Screw It!
There's just too much money to be made off of the stupid sheeple.
I'm gonna open a franchise up there...with FDA & CDC legal immunity : )
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The propaganda photo at that site should be illegal
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Any home schoolers here get badgered by state about vaccines?
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I never allowed my son to attend a public institution and we
never encountered such an instance as described here. Having said that, I knew a number of parents in our local homeschooling association, who had pulled their children from public schools in order to homeschool, that did get periodic inquiries from so-called "official" channels. Joining a homeschooling association in your community provides a lot of help in doing battle with state intrusions. The situation in Penn., described in this thread, is particularly disturbing in that it makes me wonder exactly what the state intends to do, and how far it will actually go, in order to physically secure control of the intended victims for purposes of involuntarily injecting them with this or that chemical cocktail of substances.
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which ones?
flu hasn't come up yet where I live and if it did I would imagine it would be tied to attendance which is a non-issue...
We had all the early childhood vaccines when we were in FL, it seems like they we were required and we had to show proof to someone but we didn't object at the time, don't know what I would do now tho....
but as to being presently badgered, no..
I'm in WV... Rockefeller will protect us...LOL
I have a question
My daughter's friend is anti-vaccine and pregnant with her first. Her husband is a very angry and a very reluctant army pawn. Because they can only afford the military doctors, they are subject to their standards. She says that she was told she MUST vaccine the baby upon birth because it is at a military hospital........any thoughts?
Colchester, New London County, Connecticut
Has she looked into signing a waiver?
Don't know if you can in the military, but it's certainly worth a try.
Carmelo Rodriguez Military Medical Accountability Act of 2009
This bill was mentioned in the Oversight Committee re: Administration's Flu Policies, that would allow military to sue for medical malpractice --
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1478:
Carmelo Rodriguez Military Medical Accountability Act of 2009
To amend chapter 171 of title 28, United States Code, to allow members of the Armed Forces to sue the United States for damages for certain injuries caused by improper medical care, and for other purposes.
Seems with this in current legislation, serious consideration may be given over a refusal to vaccinate, seeing as how they're all about to get busted if this passes. It wouldn't hurt to bring this up along with other supporting anti-vaccine documents....or would it?
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I've mentioned this to a few soldiers i know and
they adamantly disagree with me on it. Apparently they don't know they can now sue the government, instead of their relatives having to sue for medical malpractice. Obviously they didn't put this info out in formation.
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Well they're right, right now
It's not a law yet but the soldiers should be made aware that it is in legislation. I would think that the fact that this bill is being legislated right now might make some military doctors (with unclean hands) take pause and think twice.
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IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT
to get vaccines for family members in order to get TRICARE. Whoever told her this bull, IS bullying. They do not know the states exemptions. She needs to go on the TRICARE website or call them to verify this. Again there is a difference between TRICARE and the military medical facility. The military medical facility only does the "performance" aspect of the medical care, TRICARE does the approving. But yes she can go to vaclib.org and print off her state's exemption for this. There was a myriad of military moms getting their exemption forms notarized, last i heard (they were complaining actually!), but nothing they could do about it, as it's a state issue. Yes even though military doctors are providing the medical care, but to double check have her call TRICARE AND go on the TRICARE website to look at anything that might be obligatory. But honestly I don't think there is, unless it's changed in the last couple of years. There are many military medical professionals that can't or won't admit that there could be a danger in vaccines. So this is not surprising.
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Thanks for this great info everyone
I will pass it on to them today!
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Have them interview the midwife and
homeschool networks in the local area. Many homeschoolers choose home births and may have helpful information.
as suggested below
you could go to a midwifery/clinic and get some information. If you live near a base there should be someone around who is familiar with military protocol.
Move the birth to either home or a birthing center
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If you subject yourself to THEIR rules under THEIR roof, there's not much you can do.
I would SERIOUSLY consider moving that birth-party to a different location.
Can the military stop them?
I know an alternate birthing place will not be insured and end up costing them about 5 grand, but YOUR BABY IS WORTH IT !!!!!
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