Ron Paul doesn't want to be our president

For those of us DPers who were here a couple of years ago and were with Dr. Paul from the moment he started an exploratory committee, to when he finally threw in the towel, it was a pretty rough ride.

The MSM did their best to marginalize him consistently; FOX news held a televised roundtable discussion with every one of the republican candidates, except Dr. Paul. (In a nice gesture, Jay Leno invited RP to appear ton the Tonight show, which was good). We all recall George Stephanopolous and his snide comment: "That's not gonna happen" after RP said his goal was to win. Add to the mix RP's wife Carol fell ill and this was of grave concern to us.

Ron Paul is 74 now; and campaigning is not easy. It just takes an awful lot to get good organizers, good advance people in the various towns and cities, and - well, you know - it's awfully hard and tiresome. The good thing was that millions of people made the money bombs a staggering success - much to the dismay of the other candidates.

But what most of us came to realize is that the game is fixed. The voting machines are rigged; the CFR (and other elite organizations) manipulate the media to promote their candidate (who is hand picked by the global elitists; this has gone on since the 'ascension' of Jimmy Carter) and an honest man like Ron Paul frankly doesn't stand a chance. If this were a fair fight, then he might get the republican nomination. But nothing about our political system is fair. Nothing.

his management was clueless. Honestly, I think there were trolls making important decisions that did not do him good.

Sometimes I think he really did not want to win but when i remember the look on ron pauls face in that george stephanopoulos interview it was evident that just the thought of loosing troubled him alot. p.s. doinnuthin isn't worth a rats ass.

"The revolutionary forces have to take civil society before they take the state, and therefore have to build a coalition of oppositional groups united under a hegemonic banner which usurps the dominant or prevailing hegemony." -Strinati, Dominic.

It may be better for the Revolution if Ron Paul didn't run.

It may be better for the Revolution if someone who believed in the same principles as Ron Paul ran, and when asked why he was running, his reply would be, because "I believe in Ron Paul's America, and I believe in the Constitution."

If Dr. Paul runs again, he could be dismissed by the same people that dissed him before, the media.

But if a Ron Paul Patriot runs, they can't dismiss him/her out of hand. First they have to investigate and try to find some "dirt".

I believe that Ron Paul will be regarded as the man who saved America, but he can't do it alone, he needs our help.

We the people NEED our help.

Dr. Paul has lit brushfires in the minds of men, and it is up to us to finish the job.

We can't expect him to do everything. He can't do everything.

Ron would run if that was our only choice, but we will have choices.

Don't believe me to be a troll, because I would gladly give all for Dr. Paul.

Consider all venues to success, and success is the restoration of the Constitution.

The military and the corporations own our government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4qUY9b3ETU

when you say Ron Paul doesn't want to be President, you may be right, because of his age.

But, when you say no one will be there for us, you are wrong. The Revolution has awoken many patriots.

My personal favorite is Jesse Ventura, with his take no enemies, shoot from the hip, in your face style of speaking.

Someone will be there for us, I feel Ron Paul may not want it myself, but I can't put words in his mouth.

If he ran, my support may be taken for granted, but his age, and the damn "newsletters", and the ignorant sheep who believe in the left-right paradigm may be too much to overcome.

But, who knows what the future holds, future events could change everything.

The military and the corporations own our government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4qUY9b3ETU

It's widely known that when Gary Johnson puts his mind to something, he puts everything he has into it. When New Mexico had a $144 million budget surplus, Gary Johnson told congress that he wanted $72 million of that to go back to the people as tax breaks. They said no, they brought him several budget bills without any tax breaks. He just sent them right back with the veto. They finally gave him his tax cuts. 14 tax cuts throughout his time as governor and over 1000 budget items vetoed. All of this in a state dominated 2 to 1 by Democrats.

He's been eyeing the top spot for a few years but has been waiting for the right time so that when he runs, he'll be able to win.

2012 is that time, and he will win.

www.garyjohnson2012.com

Ron Paul has repeatedly said he used the GOP to spread his message. Had he wanted to be president, he would have gone Indy and gone for it.

I knew he didn't want to be president when I met him in SF. I saw a few people I know in the legal medical marijuana industry here that could have given him CA and it's 156 winner take all electoral votes.

There's allot of Libertarians, POWERFUL Libertarians here, like Koch. Steve Kubby threw his position in the CALP to RP. Libertarian Jack Herer had the best cannabis legislation of his life, CA Cannabis Health and Hemp Immiative 2008... RP woudn't touch it.. wound up with Kucinich (what a shame). RP could have had TV interviews, the growers offered to open their ranches and pocketbooks... Ron Paul rejected us.

My Sheriff told me, he really likes RP... This area is prepared to flip the NWO and establish a "gold" standard because the capital market, meaning the untaxed, unregulated medical marijuana market sustains this area with a $14 Billion annual income (some say $40 billion annual crop).

I have never belonged to a major party. Previous to the rEVOLution, I have supported Ralph Nader. I expected the RP campaign to be more professional than Nader, because Nader does not run to win. At first, I thought RP was running to win, so I turned down a job with Nader. I have been registered as an electoral voter for three elections. I don't know how many people here have been that. I assume most here have gone through a "delegation" process to become an electoral voter.. As a past Nader rep.. I see this game very different.. Never have I seen a campaign that worked so hard to kill the grassroots effort.

Jeff Greenspan worked very hard pouring buckets of cold water on the campaign. He created so much infighting between meetups. Good people came to the rEVOLution and became discusted with how the campaign did everything it could to kill the campaign.

But what I found more important then RP wanting to be president or not, is a rEVOLution that is bigger than RP, and now we have a C4L, so we are evolving and this is good.

has been quite vocal about his hesitancy to run for The White House. There is no big secret or debate about it.

It is antithetical to the very philosophy of Libertarianism. This is, unfortunately, why those drawn to POWER over others always end up in positions of power. (See "An Idea Whose Time has Come" by G. Edward Griffin).

BUT, Ron Paul was willing to make the SACRIFICE of becoming President, in the hopes of being able to dismantle the system of enslavement as much as possible during his term. He is also a thinker and a REALIST and knew that the chances of the population changing their thinking in enough numbers to elect him were few..... but he was willing to accept such a miracle should it occur. Any other attitude would have been unrealistic, and one doesn't turn off one's rational mind to the realities of the situation, just because the miracle outcome would be so wonderful. He wasn't MOTIVATED by a desire to be President, but was willing to accept that mandate. This is true greatness.

Whether Ron Paul is willing, once again, to make the SACRIFICE and run for President in 2012 is probably something that only he can answer. I think, in a way he is hoping that there will be a new, younger version of himself that would serve. We shall see....

The MORE important mission is to change societal THINKING, so that the "knee-jerk" reaction of society as a whole is to elect FREEDOM candidates in all areas of government.

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"Not armies, not nations, have advanced the race; but here and there, in the course of ages, an individual has stood up and cast his shadow over the world." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6pAcBXt2j8

He was hesitant because of his former Libertarian run in 88.

Before he decided to run in the 2008 election, he formed an exploratory committee that indicated there was support for his Constitutional views, and more people than ever fed up with the status quo.

Anyway, I am sure he knew it was unlikely to win, and a very uphill battle, but my point is he would not have run for President unless he believed he had a chance.

I don't think he initially realized the movement of his running would cause. I think once he saw the meet-ups and grassroots movement he realized that even if he did not win, the people are waking up. Just my opinion. --Thanks, 3D

Ron woke a lot of people up, now there are a lot more of us. I would gladly vote again for Chuck Baldwin. I hope ron runs but im ok if he doesnt, as long as we have someone to vote for and watch in the debates.

He had an intention to win. When they asked him why he joined the race he said "Well, to win"

I believe/hope Gary Johnson is the best candidate. I know he was as boring as Charlie Brown's teacher at the C4L Minneapolis event in September 2008, but something like that can be helped. The one thing Ron Paul lacked with the general public was credibility. Gary Johnson was a 2-term governer. When was the last time a President was elected in the White House that was not a Governor, Senator, or Vice President?

Otherwise, we can compromise with Jesse Ventura in the actual election.

The new is the Daily Paul.

accomplshed more by not winning than he could have if he did, Think about it.. If he was planning to run it would not be a good idea to say so now. For many reasons. I will let you think about that.. It is up to us to determine what will be. Haven't you figured that out yet? The whole problem is we have been voting for a president and other reps and not giving our input. We have given them the power and they took it. We are to blame too. Ron Paul woke us up and gave us the opportunity to save ourselves.

i would assume. he'll be what 76? it is saddening, he is the total package. probably the most staunch defender of Liberty ever - certainly the fullest understanding