Important Question: Lupus versus Flu vaccinations.

She already has one auto-immune disease..Does she want another one on top of that?

Squalene in the vaccine will lead to auto-immune and neurological diseases.

Why ??

Sqalene is a natural oil found in your skin, spine and brain. When Injected into the blood stream your body views squalene as a foreign substance, and codes antibodies for it where ever it finds it.

95% of gulf war 1 vets with Gulf war sydrome test positive for squalene antibodies.

Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed
(squalene was used in experimental anthrax vaccines and is linked to Gulf War Syndrome)
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/0...

Re: LUPUS question
Posted by: Omega (IP Logged)
Date: March 05, 2009 08:56PM
http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/read.php?9,134318

Hi Sproutlover,

Dr. Max Gerson healed lupus vulgaris with a saltless raw food diet.

I recommend the following excerpt from the autobiography of Dr. Ferdinand Sauerbruch.

From [gerson-research.org]:

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From Master Surgeon
{excerpt)

"I was sitting in a train traveling from Munich to Davos, where I had once again been invited. It had been an exhausting day and I tried to sleep, but in vain. I had probably drunk too much coffee. Grimly I leaned back and tried to read the medical journals I had with me. After we had crossed into Switzerland, another traveler got into my compartment. The man seemed bored, and it was plain that he was looking for a chance to open conversation. He irritated me by shuffling his feet, twitching his legs, fidgeting with his clothes, and by his general restlessness. Before long, he made his opening move.

"Are you going to Davos, too?"

"Yes," I growled.

After a very short silence, he tried again. "Are you a patient?"

"No."

He peered across to try and read the titles of the periodicals which I had thrown down beside me on the seat.

We rattled on through the night. I was desperately tired. I could not read, my eyes were aching, yet in spite of myself I was curious concerning this exception. It was not difficult to set him off again. As I stared at him, he asked, "What can you see on my face?"

"Burns," I suggested.

"Burns!" he cried. "These aren't burns. They are the scars of skin tuberculosis, and I was cured of it by this doctor."

"What!" I exclaimed, though with some restraint. Skin tuberculosis, lupus, an unsightly disease for which there was no known cure. I decided that my fellow traveler was just bragging. "There's no cure for lupus."

"There used to be no cure," he replied. "But one has been found. I have been cured."

Before he realized what was happening, I was unfastening his jacket and shirt, for we were alone in the compartment and some distance from the next station. And on his chest I saw large areas of perfectly healed lupus. I asked him to tell me his story. From his accent, I judged him to be Russian.

The disease, he said, had developed in his home country; he had gone from doctor to doctor. Being well-to-do, he had been able to afford treatment abroad and had visited various German hospitals in vain. Feeling more and more like a medieval leper, he had been on the brink of suicide, when he was told that there was a doctor named Gerson in Bielefeld who claimed to be able to cure lupus. He decided to go to him. Why not? The effects of the disease on his face were such that he would soon be forced to retire from the world. People shrank from him, and few hotels would admit him.

As soon as Dr. Gerson saw him, he exclaimed, "Ha! Lupus, lupus vulgaris.

"Can you help me?"

"Of course I can help you." And he did. I asked him how he had done so.

"By diet."

In the whole range of medical literature, there was no reference to the treatment of lupus by diet.

"When I was cured," he continued, "I went to all the famous doctors who had told me there was no cure, and they all laughed at me. Doctors!"

"Did you ever go to Sauerbruch?" I asked.

"It wouldn't have been any use. He's in Munich, and anyway, he always quarrels with everybody, shouts and bellows at them. He wouldn't listen."

I told him that I knew Sauerbruch and that I could guarantee that Sauerbruch would see him. And then he told me why he was going to Switzerland. He was hoping to acquire a building for the treatment of lupus patients free of charge. It was to be a gesture of gratitude for his release from this dreaded scourge. But he knew that he would need the support of some prominent man, for Dr. Gerson's name was practically unknown.

Got you're interest, Thundercloud? It's a reckoning to go raw . . .
Here's another most excellent and astute rawfooder site:
http://www.livingnutrition.com/article_samples/lupus.html#

See ya there, in rawfood cure land!

Please check your email. :)

My sister in law was just diagnosed with auto immune disorder, quite possibly lupus, we are waiting on more tests. My first inclination was to google lupus and flu vaccines......
I am leaning toward a vaccine related condition, there are no other disorders of that type in the family. She is an atty for state of MA and has had every shot they told her to get.......

Find another doctor, and if you can not, then do as the doctor tells you. If you do not, he can refuse service, and youre back at getting another doctor, buring up time, that your wife needs.

Many people here do not have doctors. You and your wife have a VERY serious situation to face. My heart goes out to you both.

I believe in miracles. May you so be blessed.

and do some more research.

But, when I worked in healthcare, a nurse, who did concurrent review for our healthcare company told me this, when I asked her about getting the flu shot - several years ago.

She told me she does NOT get the shot and that she/they believed that is what gave her mother Lupus.

So, that, and my sister-in-law, who is a nurse, said she never gets the flu shot - I don't get them.

And after reading tons of info about how the annual flu shot is actually for strains of flu for a year too before, and about how the H1N1 flu vaccine is UNTESTED and that the Health CZAR gave immunity to those who mfg. it, I WILL NOT get this one either. It's been proven the H1N1 is not of nature, but man made and released into the environment.

No one HAD immune deficiency diseases when I was a young adult. The first I remember hearing about Lupus was in the 70's. So I am wondering if the vaccines are causing the auto-immune disorders?

listening to many of the DailyPaul people I have learn and decided to take over 1000IU of vitamin D3 to boost my immune system. And if for some reason I catch either of the Flu - I plan to begin to add a tablespoon of colloidal silver until I am past the flu by three days. Colloidal Silver kills over 650 viruses, bacteries, and fungis. If for some reason I am force/required to take the Flu/Swine Flu shot - I plan to take a tablespoon before the shot and then continue to take the tablespoon after up to three days. And while doing all this I plan to stay away from the public as much as possible.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

vaccinations. You are right about your concerns.

With a possible diagnosis of LUPUS, avoidance of anything that could stimulate her immune system should the order of the day. An immunization(s), could cause a heightened immune response and precipitate the illness she is trying to avoid and could also cause Guillain-Barre syndrome.

I would shield her from any immune-activating substances: bug bites, bee stings, sickness, viruses, bacterial infections, immunizations, and allergic reactions to anything, while encouraging a healthy life style: good food, hydration, physical activity, and rest.

They must have prescribed steroids like prednisone. This type of medication can give ambiguous labs results for LUPUS.

That is my two-cents worth of recommendations.

I also have concerns regarding a similar autoimmune situation. The Flu shots will cause a jump start in an already over active immune system. don't do it. just the heavy metals alone in the shots don't make it worth it for someone who has autoimmune problems.