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Ron Paul Becomes a Democrat
Submitted by michaelwise on Tue, 10/06/2009 - 01:42
Shameless attention getter of a subject line. What I meant to say was , Ron Paul could switch to the Democrat party and run for President in 2012. What do you think of that? » |
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I've been a registered
I've been a registered Republican my whole life, but I would gladly change my party affiliation to be able to vote for Ron Paul in 2012.
It Would Make No Difference
it's not about a party - it's not about the person ...
it's all about the philosophy .....
who cares what color it is wrapped in (red or blue) - as long as it is non-intervention and pro-liberty ......
I am still looking for an Independent in 2012 .... the 2 major parties (rather the one party) is tired and worn out and the majority are going to be looking for something different!
artistsforRP~Rep.or Dem.
Two wings of the same bird...the flight path doesn't change...
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(I love that photo..says alot! )
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
wow
You were writing basically the same thing as I was, at the same time, lol!
"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
No Way
Ron Paul is not a loser
TheKingIsComing
Ron Paul, A Mugwump???
Never!!! Though we're gonna need more democrat mugwumps to jump ship and join the cause of liberty.
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The darkhorse candidate for the Kentucky Senate Dr Rand Paul a Constitutional Republican has proven to be more than a distraction
http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/a-legacy-of-freed...
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The Party of Jefferson, Madison, Jackson, & Cleveland?
For a lunatic notion it is not without merit. Not only does it have a lock on central bank slayers (Jefferson and Jackson for those of you who were late to class), but it was formed by the original (relative) libertarians, though they called themselves "Republicans" at the time.
On balance though, it is a thoroughly stupid idea. Dr Paul would sacrifice decades of working relationships and mountains of credibility for the sake of what?
Gaea Vindice
LXXI BC: Ego sum Spartacus // MDCCCLVII: I am Dred Scott // MCMVL: Ich bin Anne Frank // MMX: Je suis Assange // MMXI: Ik ben von NotHaus
For winning the Whitehouse
For winning the Whitehouse in 2012, helping the Democrats save face from their previous debacle, and show the country what a new way looks like and how it was supposed to be. Even if RP only has a few years left by then, I would take that.
And why do we care about saving the skins of Democrats??
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
It's not about parties...
It's about PEOPLE. The labels, democrat, republican, libertarian, whatever, do not matter. People matter! I know many "democrats" who are really good, intelligent, constitution-loving, people. I know "republicans" who are also, but I also know some from all of those parties, including "libertarians", who are complete a-holes. The labels are not the important thing, I wish people understood that. We also drive away many possible supporters of the CFL (and dailypaul), and to hearing what the message is, by our intolerance and rejection of them right off.
"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
I know what you mean, but you missed what I meant -- why
do we care about making a political party "look good" like Michael suggests?
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!
But
if he switched parties, he would lose his seniority perks. The only thing even remotely "democrat" about him would be how Thomas Jefferson ran as a Democrat in order to stop the central bank, although Woodrow Wilson was there in the Democrat party to put in a new bank.
Consider Kennedy wanted to issue silver....
certificates, and he did also cut taxes.
see Executive order 11110
The order was for the Treasury to issue silver certificates against all silver held by the government which did not already have certificates against it. The order was needed due to the passage of Public Law 88-36 which repealed the Silver Purchase Act and other related monetary measures. One result was that after the repeals, only the President could issue new silver certificates.[citation needed]
The Federal Reserve System could replace the certificates, but only in larger denominations. The thrust of the order returned the authority to issue new silver certificates (and specify denominations) back to the U.S. Treasury.
This executive order allowed for the Federal Reserve System to distribute and exchange currency at lower denominations that met the growing economic need. The authoritative basis for the Order was substantially nullified on September 13, 1982 with the passage of Public Law 97-258. [1]
Ron Paul as a "Democrat"
It is hard to see Democrats doing a worse hatchet job than GOP officials have done. However, I really don't see the point. If it helped to reawaken Democrats to their Jeffersonian heritage and once again become a voice for (however limited) free markets, private property, and avoidence of overseas intervention, it would be worth persuing. However, it seems that since the Guru was elected--or crowned--last year, Democrats have forgotten even the limited values they seemed to have during the reign of Bush II.
It seems also, that despite the perfidy of the neocons who own and operate the GOP, Ron Paul and his supporters are beginning to do quite well in Republican Party circles, especially on the State, local and Congressional levels.
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K.Meller
The Democrats were never good though -- never right
the Repub party just losts it's way -- when the social-democrats jumped the isle.
You can't fix something that was never righteous.
Civil War -- Southern Democratic War; they should have conceded on the slavery issue 2 decades before that war ever took place, calling themselves "Christians."
Every major American War was started by Democrats save the Republican Revolution
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*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
Do you ever wonder how many "constitutionalists"
actually support slavery? I do. I'll bet it's quite a few. I think Badnarick does. How can people think that the founding fathers truly understood freedom when they "owned" humans? I haven't forgotten you, it's been crazy times.
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MikeLawson: I agree with you 100%
I would only argue that Constitutional Consumer-Minarchists and not American Voting-Class Constitutionalist would or could adhere to a policy of non-violence.
They subsidized Land Grabbing and Mass Murder of American Indians and all Slave based products / industries.
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The Dems Used To Be The Small-Government Party
The split really became apparent during Wilson, but the small-government faction was still lively. It disappeared with FDR's Presidency, at least outside the South. Now it's gone, gone, gone.
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DC: I disagree
The "Dems" were Pro-Slavery which was fully subsidized by Big Gov't (American) and their "war" was subsidized by England.
They were "small gov't" only when it came to the taxation on slave interests -- they were in full support of Land Theft of the American Indian by the American Military and of the American Navy protecting Slave Ships.
The North had subsidized Cotton/Textile industry -- that the Southern Demos made massive profits off of.
It wasn't until the taxation/subsidization/regulation reached a tipping point did they commence to seek subsidization from England and France.
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I'm Talking About Government In General
Sure, the Dems, like the Repubs, at various times advocated government force and intervention to protect special interests. But overall, it was the Dems who more vociferously advocated small government, low (or no) taxes, sound currency and (more-or-less) free enterprise.
In fact, the small-government Dems were still powerful enough that FDR in '32 had to run as a "traditional" Dem advocating a sound currency and railing against the "interventionist" policies of Hoover and the Republican Party dominated by special financial interests. That FDR didn't really mean it is beside the point. He had to pander to that wing, at least to initially gain office. The Repubs, on the other hand, always favored federal power. The reason people now think of the Repubs as "small government" is largely due to their reaction to the New Deal. We think of them now as "traditional" small government advocates, but that really only gained currency with Robert Taft. And it is apparently going to be short-lived, thanks to Nixon, Bush, and the failure of the "Reagan Revolution" to deliver, not to mention what has become essentially a merger of the "two" parties, at least on the national level.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
DC: I concede the point
I took up the wrong argument -- My argument now is that neither Republican nor the Democrats (as parties) ever stood for "Small Gov't," rather individuals within each party in their own way dabbled with the notion -- when it suited them.
The ONLY truly small-gov't leaders have been Taft - Coolidge - and Paul.
RP being in the best position to be perfectly so.
One has to pick and chose his/her battles when the masses do not understand the daily-dollar-vote -AND- ignorantly approach the ballot box with security and confidence.
Hahahahaha ;-)
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I Think We Can Agree That Both Have Been, And Remain, Corrupt
And I certainly didn't mean to defend the Southern Dems support of slavery.
I guess what we're both saying is that neither party has any reason to be proud.
Yours in liberty,
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I think it's a great idea
If nothing else, just to show how the parties are a joke. To REALLY drive it home, he should convince Kuchinich to switch to Republican.
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Lol.
And then, to cross everything up, Obama too would switch to Republican. Trust me, they'd support him as long as he had that "R" after his name.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
The fun part would be watching talking heads' heads explode
What if ALL Republicans switched to Democrats? This could blow the paradigm apart in a matter of days.
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Frankly, I don't think the talking heads would miss a beat.
The electorate would hopefully raise an eyebrow though.
But you never know.:)
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Well, since he has no change to win
If he has the energy, it may be a good way for him to continue to get his message out..
I supported Nader since 1996, not because I agreed with Nader 100% or that I thought he had a chance in hell to win, but because his message, "There is NO difference between parties", End the war on Drugs, keep elction open and honest was a good reason to "get in the game". I learned allot as I do with RP and his supporters.
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
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NO WAY!! That's a disgrace
Ron Paul is a REAL Republican. He would never do such a thing. Who thinks of this stuff?
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www.youtube.com/ronpaultunes
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