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Ok prechterites... explain gold now..

so where is jeff34456099 or jzneff coming here to the daily paul to give us thier pearls of wisdom? you know the hard core prechterites who say gold is going down...down...down... Ron Paul said it... INFLATIONARY DEPRESSION.. The manipulators are losing thier grip on the paper gold and silver markets. this should get good! Folks, please connect the dots..

http://www.shtfplan.com/marc-faber/caution-crashcollapse-dea...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-o...

the rest of the world is tired of the US.. China has taken the opposite side against goldman sachs and the other banksters in the gold and silver futures markets.. for over 2 years I have come to the daily paul and urged people to get prepaired.. Food, water, gold ,silver, a place in the country etc.. I hope you folks have prepared.

Now it looks like the shorts in gold and silver will be overun.. I hope you guys did not listen to jzneff, or jeff456098 .. they are being proven wrong.. we are just about to start the next leg down in this DEPRESSION.. 4400 on the dow is on the way...




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prechter hasnt been right once

i us to pay for that rage of a service he has and he has been calling for 300 dollar gold since well 350. the guys a clown.

On mdopazo behalf I'd like

On mdopazo's behalf I'd like to apologize to any clowns that may have been offended.

Prechter is always given an

Prechter is always given an audience when it is necessary to talk down the price of gold. It's his little role in this media/bankster created live-action drama.

If he would switch his argument to gold from the USD he would be 100% correct. Even worse than Prechter is Shedlock who is the worst kind of misleading idiot. You can't be a deflationist but bullish on gold. The two positions are mutually exclusive.

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Not Likely

So for Prechter to be 100% right like the rest of the goldbugs, he needs to abandon his forecasting method and join the crowd? His method involves forecasting crowd behavior which is driven by herding impulses that manifest themselves as waves in financial markets and carry socionomic implications. This necessitates being a contrarian at important turning points. The noise and vehemence of his critics is music to the ears of subscribers who understand his method and the reasoning behind his forecasts. If Prechter were to change a forecast simply because the crowd disagreed he'd lose me as a subscriber forever. It's not likely to happen.

I am neither a gold bug nor a gold detractor.

When I calculate that gold is going up I own it; when I calculate that gold is going down, I sell it and/or short it.

Right now I think gold is going up, probably to $2,000 by October, 2010, so I own it.

After October, 2010, I think gold is going back down to below $300, arriving by 2015.

Let me ask you who consider yourselves gold bugs, what you can buy with gold in today's world. The only thing I know that can be bought with gold is currency; you can exchange it for US federal reserve notes for example (you might think of this as selling gold, but also it is buying US $'s).

So ultimately people will have more gold than they think they want, or they may reach the point when they need to get US federal reserve notes to pay bills and they will buy the only thing they can with gold, currency. Eventually the psychology will shift and currency will be more in demand than gold so the relative values will change, and people will be surprised to see currency rise in value relative to gold (the price of gold will fall).

It is all a big game of choosing the most favorable vehicle in which to place your wealth, and psychology is a big factor. Gold is the current fad, just as real estate was until a few years ago, just as dot.com stocks were even before real estate.

There will be plenty of people buying gold all the way up to $2,000 who hold on to it all the way down to under $300, simply because they don't understand that fad is much more important in determining its value than intrinsics.

"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley

I'm starting to think

that bad_sierra and jeff_8675309 are the same guy with split-personality disorder.

I

Think that also. Bad_Karma is running around dragging up old posts of jefnz34334 and jefnz does the same thing when gold drops.

Could it be that this guy has such a ego that he has to be right whether PM go up or go down? His arguments must always be right therefore he created two separate accounts and names to always be right no matter where the price of PM goes? Some people are messed up.

ala Carl Cameron... Sir, do you have any?

Ass that is... just noticed that Bad_Karma seems to use the phrase "LMAO" all the time, so just for fun I used the search for "bad_karma lmao", and here's a fraction of them... bold added, but nothing else...

Dude, if you've laughed it off that much, there can't be much left!

:) Just havin' some fun..

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rhino: Financial prediction for the fourth quarter -On October 5th, 2009 bad_karma says: LMAO.... when you put 400k into silver at 4.50 an ounce call me... A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and ...
www.dailypaul.com/node/104958

Gold WAY Up Today!!! $1044/oz-Oct 6, 2009 ... On October 6th, 2009 bad_karma says: LMAO.... why? A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes ...
www.dailypaul.com/node/109920

Jim Sinclair's Countdown To Dollar Implosion - LMAO.... and prechter was. On September 2nd, 2009 bad_karma says: lmao.... and prechter was telling everyone it was going to 125.00. ...
www.dailypaul.com/node/105179

URGENT MESSAGE! Make this viral! It's now life or death! - On September 16th, 2009 bad_karma says: LMAO.... seems all the naysayers come out at once..... if I were going to tell a lie I sure as hell would not post it ...
www.dailypaul.com/node/107366

Chicago just lost the Olympic bid -On October 2nd, 2009 bad_karma says: LMAO.... wasn't rhino the whino predicting they would get it... to funny. A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead ...
www.dailypaul.com/node/109486

Gold advice? Stockbroker sent me this email | -On October 1st, 2009 bad_karma says: LMAO.... gld is NOT the same thing as GOLD.. if you can't touch it you don't own it.. he is pulling this ...
www.dailypaul.com/node/109385

Protecting yourself in dangerous times - bad_karma says: LMAO.... where can I buy a couple of those? Login or register to post comments. ROTFL!!! That was awesome! ...
www.dailypaul.com/node/98153

Independent Investigation into Pentagon Attack Yields Alarming -bad_karma says: LMAO.... after you look at the evidence presented here, you still question what happened? is this idiocy or ...
www.dailypaul.com/node/105002

If Obama Would....I could support him!-On September 18th, 2009 bad_karma says: he tells the truth???? sure he does. .... LMAO.... ! www.dailypaul.com/node/107602

Rhino: We all have our roles. |- On October 2nd, 2009 bad_karma says: I know I get short with people that threaten to deminish my role... LMAO.... please tell us what your role is? ...

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Why would you change your handle?

Is it true that you were Sierra... before? Why would you change it?

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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

because I was one of the

because I was one of the people who nystrom decided to ban.. there were about 10 of us who would stand up to the trolls.. I guess nystrom didn't like it so...

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Ah, so it's true...

I remember you being not such a nice guy, doesn't seem like you've changed anything BUT your handle. A little tact & diplomacy goes a long way, but...

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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Prechter has been singing

Prechter has been singing the same "deflationist" tune since at least 2002, and he's been wrong, wrong, wrong. I would love to know what the Short Term Update said about gold yesterday. For many months it's been saying gold was headed below 680. How short is "short term"?
Check this out.
... and this

actually longer then that...

actually longer then that... he was saying gold was going to 150.00 when it was at 300.00. those that followed his advice have missed this whole market since 99' Prechters Mistake is seeing the economy centered around the US and not the world.. he forgot that there is a country called China who has trillions of us dollars to spend on things like Gold and silver.. he also forgets that the US is a very small % in world population..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Prechter should not be

Prechter should not be considered an authority on gold, economics, investing, or anything money-related. Period!

He's an expert on Elliott Waves

which, contrary to popular opinion, refers not to a charting system, but to certain gesticulations given while waving 'good bye' to the value of your investments.

And "good-bye" to the idea

And "good-bye" to the idea one should take him seriously.

Could you define "prechterite" please?

I'm too lazy to research it myself, and besides, I think it is the responsibility of an author using an obscure technical term to offer either a literal definition, or at least to couch it in a more coherent context from which to derive meaning.

Also, my spell check doesn't recognize it either, offering such possible variant spellings as "preliterate", "prostrate", and "prematurity."

West of 89 (or, The Coefficient of Restitution)
a novel of another america
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/161155#longdescr

see Robert Prechter elliot

see Robert Prechter elliot wave theory... NOW for the record.. I agree with Prechter on about everything... he is wrong with inflation and the precious metals.. Instead of a deflationary depression like Prechter thinks,
I agree with Ron Paul in that the Depression will be INFLATIONARY.. not deflationary..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

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Thank you for the direction

I am always grateful to become a little less ignorant.

West of 89 (or, The Coefficient of Restitution)
a novel of another america
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/161155#longdescr

you are not ignorant

you are not ignorant prof.... love reading your posts..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

au contraire, Sierre

We're all born ignorant, and none of us ever completely gets over it. There's too much in the universe to know. The trick, I think, is to just keep beating it back for as long as we're sucking wind. The trouble is, the more we learn, the more aware we become of just how little we can know. We start out thinking we've pretty much got it whipped, it's just "good" or "not good" and Mommy takes care of the rest, and end up realizing that we'll never get it all figured out.

That aside, unless I miss my guess, I've also found your posts generally to be thoughtful and informative. We may have differed now and then on the Pestiferous Ps (polygamy, pot, and prayer), but on balance I find you to be a stalwart defender of liberty and a decent bloke.

"He has qualified us to be ministers, not of the Law, but of the Spirit."
-- Saul called Paul

West of 89 (or, The Coefficient of Restitution)
a novel of another america
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/161155#longdescr

So whats all your huffing and puffing about Sierra AKA bad_karma

OK Sierra AKA bad_karma you have named names because you what a response. So here we go; starting with:

Your predictions almost 2 years a go that silver would be at $100 oz. before now. Follow by your prediction oil would go to $200 a barrel (amazingly you never mentioned Lindsey Williams until you were proven wrong about your oil pricing predictions). Then we had your prediction that the COMEX market would be forced to shut it doors by Christmas of last year and silver $25 by Thanksgiving. And let’s not forget, after the first of last year you prediction the dollar would be worthless ( Circa Zimbabwe) and after the market bottomed this year that gold and the Dow be soon be at the same level. At that time I believe you said 2000 or 3000 on the Dow and $2000 or $3000 for gold, I don’t remember, but I do remember it was ridiculous, as usual. Which bring us to now, and your assertion that “the shorts in gold and silver will be overrun” and “the Dow is headed to 4400”.

Both China and the US governments want a cheap dollar to support exports. The rest of the world would prefer a stronger dollar. Falling prices are a natural state of affairs because of rising productivity over time. Inflation is a direct (and unnatural) state of affairs caused by the Fed and fractional reserve lending. Consumer prices are experiencing deflation, with the consumer price index sliding for six straight months from year-earlier levels. So where is you claim to victory that the Fed has succeeded and we are now experiencing inflation and that is why gold is higher? Wrong! Assets are still in the process of re-pricing from the “asset bubble” bursting. A decline in Gold price, not value, is just water seeking it’s own level. View a decline in gold price for what it is, when this happens; a buying opportunity.

What you fail to realize Sierra AKA bad_karma is the difference between price and value. The price of gold is due to correct downward; when exactly, who knows, but in the short term it’s due. The important issue is the value of gold, as related to other assets, is NOT going to change.

Whether gold is trading at $1200 per oz. or $700 per oz. the value is the same as it relates to other asset classes. Gold correcting downward has no effect on its value. (Quit buying into the FED BS on pricing, you are playing their game). Downward gold pricing will only change because the other asset classes have fallen in price relative to gold. Your argument of a 4400 Dow would only support the argument of gold making a downward price move as it related to stocks as an asset class.

So what’s all your huffing and puffing about Sierra AKA bad_karma? You still haven’t been right about anything, just confused. The PM market has been in a bull run for a long time. A correction will be healthy for the PM market. You, Sierra AKA bad_karma have a lot to learn.

If you predicted gold would go down, you're simply wrong..

..it don't matter how you slice or dice it. also, to say we are headed for long term deflation is proposterous.

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http://www.RebootTheRepublic.com

Consumer prices are

Consumer prices are experiencing deflation, with the consumer price index sliding for six straight months from year-earlier levels. So where is you claim to victory that the Fed has succeeded and we are now experiencing inflation and that is why gold is higher? Wrong! Assets are still in the process of re-pricing from the “asset bubble”

no you are wrong... please go see what Jim Rodgers said... but then ofcourse you are smarter then Rodgers and Jim Sinclair put together... lmfao...

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

bad_karma, does this sound like you?

* Virtually all of their ideas or ways of behaving in a given situation are taken from others, people they know and perhaps think of as an authority (mirroring).
* Their sense of self-importance and lack of empathy means that they will often interrupt the conversations of others.
* They expect others to do the day-to-day chores as they feel too important to waste their time on common things.
* Listen for the constant use of "I", "me" and "my" when they talk.
* They very rarely talk about their inner life, for example their memories and dreams.
* They feel that the rules at work don't apply to them.
* They will always cheat whenever they think they can get away with it.
* If you share workload with them expect to do the lion's share yourself.
* They love to delegate work or projects, then interfere by micro-managing it. If it goes well, they take the credit, if it goes badly they blame the person they delegated it to.
* There tends to be higher levels of stress with people who work with or interact with a narcissist, which in turn increases absenteeism and staff turnover.
* They get impatient and restless when the topic of discussion is about someone else, and not about them.

There are many other behavioural characteristics exhibited by the narcissist. A good account of them is given by Joanna Ashmun. Or you can do a free online test for narcissism.

http://www.winning-teams.com/recognizenarcissist.html

You need professional help.

dude... you need to check in

dude... you need to check in at the mental hospital.. you seriously are delusional..

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Really, lets look at what Jim Rodgers said today

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/51671c84-b372-11de-ae8d-00144feab4...

"Jim Rogers, the Singapore-based investor who has been one of the biggest bulls during this decade’s commodities rally, said that he would refrain from buying gold at a record high, but added that he was not betting against a drop in prices.

He told Reuters: “I cannot say what will happen to gold tomorrow. But if you ask me whether gold will go up in the long term... would say yes.”

Who's delusional bad_karma? I'm reading from Jim Rodgers and hes saying what I'm saying. Put down the shovel dude.

what are you talking about??

what are you talking about?? Jim Rodgers said we are having INFLATION.. not deflation as you think. Saw him say it right on CNBC.. get a grip.....you NEVER make any sense...that post of yours above has nothing to do with what we are talking about. if anything it supports my position.. not your "deflation" position.

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Ok prechterites... explain gold now

The topic of this post is " Ok prechterites... explain gold now"
And its your post. It doesn't say explain inflation or deflation now. I think its YOU, who are confused.