MarketWatch: Ron Paul has America hungry.
By David Weidner | MarketWatch
The former presidential candidate and 11-term Republican congressman from Galveston, Texas, seems to be doing what few have succeeded at: rallying support for radical change in Washington, on Wall Street and in the world.
Paul, who rattled the Republican base with a strong showing in several primaries and caucuses last year, is upping the ante. He has a new and timely book, "End the Fed," and has been making a big media tour, including a stop on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart last Tuesday.
"It's hard to enforce the laws when the government participates in fraud," Paul told Stewart.
It's hard not to get excited or encouraged about the way Paul gets people fired up about politics. It's not just the politics, though, it's the kind of politics Paul is talking about: strict lawmaking derived from the constitution, ending trade agreements and national monetary policy.
Anyone would be challenged to get young Americans to care about matters so complex and dull, but Paul does it in the same way Stewart sells world affairs to college stoners: he makes it entertaining -- and he offers hope things can change.
(Nice article until you get to the last paragraph, which begins, Paul's is an impressive movement, but it won't go any further... Oh, the MSM is up to its old tricks again, trying to tell people exactly what to think. Shall we proceed to prove them wrong, yet again?)
Don't wish to offend anyone
nor do I have any name or names in mind as missing/under-appreciating a sad but hard fact of the reality we must accept to have any hope of success.
It seems many here at the DP have yet to fully grasp the extent of our predicament, who our enemy is and the nature of that enemy.
Two simple rules of thumb:
1. Our enemy/opponent will NEVER aid us in our effort to defeat them. NEVER EVER.
We seek to destroy exactly what they expended decades of effort and money to create, a gamed system, their gamed system, THE gamed system that serves only them(a very small but very powerful group) at the expense of those who make their sweet deal possible.
2. How to identify those that will NEVER be allied with us and will in fact fight us without end?
If you assume any entity/institution that the average still asleep American considers "respectable" is our mortal enemy then you will be correct 100% of the time. However, you will still need to identify the non-respectable enemy like "honey pot" blogs.
What do you think these people do with all that created out of thin air money they have? One thing they use it for is to fund an elaborate network of institutions to ensure they NEVER lose the MONEY MACHINE again.
These same folks lost their U.S. Money Machine twice in our nations history. They fought losing the first one as hard as they fought losing the second one. They were far stronger the second time around, so even with their destruction being the sole focus through two terms of a very capable, determined President and an electorate that understood the problem far better than todays, that fight was barely won. These people are absolutely determined NOT to lose a third time and they are far stronger than the second go round, have far more sophisticated tools with an electorate that mostly has no clue and little wherewithal to catch a clue.
ANYTHING coming from any of these sources mentioning Ron Paul or relating in any way to ANYTHING we are trying to accomplish is ALWAYS an effort to sabotage those things: Ron PAUL and what we seek to accomplish. These people are very smart, very well funded, do this full-time, as a lifelong career. They are only the current crop of many generations before them. They stand atop longstanding, very powerful and very sophisticated institutions created by those before them to support and advance their work.
On the other side we have us. In comparison to our opponents we are lower than the rankest of amateurs in the worlds oldest, most dangerous and highest stakes game played by humankind.
Please never underestimate the task before us, the strength of our opponent, the lead of our opponent, etc.
At the very least please trash forever the idea that our opponent can be reasoned with and persuaded to see things our way.
The odds against us are nearly impossible even with us playing a perfect game and without hobbling ourselves with delusions. Please let us all resolve now to cease deluding ourselves and each other.
"You are a den of vipers and thieves."
I mean to rout you out!
-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us
-The door is wide open, anything can slither in
We need suggestions on how to defeat
them.
There is plenty of defeatism as is. Tell us something we dont already know.
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In order to reply quickly to your reasonable comment and
question this will be very brief and very incomplete.
"There is plenty of defeatism as is."
I almost made a comment above re: seeming negative or "defeatist". I do not consider it negative or defeatist to fully understand the reality of ones situation. On the contrary, I believe properly defining the situation/problem in order to devise a sound, rational and realistic plan for success is a major step toward eventually achieving that success.
"Tell us something we dont already know"
Many do already know and fully appreciate what I wrote about above but still many of us either never completely understood or have allowed themselves to become fuzzy on that important fact.
"We need suggestions on how to defeat them"
Above I provided one suggestion/key to defeating them i.e. ensuring all on our side completely and rationally understand who exactly is the enemy, what is the nature of that enemy and accepting a realistic view regarding the effort/time necessary to completely defeat that enemy. Implied was all know what are real gains toward success and what are only fools gold.
Here is a second suggestion(after understanding our mortal enemy): Understand the true nature of "US" not US as in the USA but US as in "us", the people here on the DP and all the people that are already very motivated to assist the effort and have a reasonable grasp of both the problem and ultimate goals.
Third suggestion: Understand the nature of the folks both we and our opponent are attempting to influence.
Fourth suggestion: Related to the first and somewhat to the second. Have you ever seen the movie the "Patriot"? Think about the evolution of the Mel Gibson character and how he evolved as necessary to deal with the nature of the opponent he faced though it was not an evolution of his NATURAL/Desired nature.
That is a fictional example of my fourth suggestion. An actual historical illustration of my point would be obvious by examining how the Patriots defeated the Loyalists at the Battle of Moore's Bridge.
Sorry the above is brief and cryptic but the best learned knowledge is that requiring more than presentation on a platter. Plus it is late.
"You are a den of vipers and thieves."
I mean to rout you out!
-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us
-The door is wide open, anything can slither in
What a weiner at the end.
What a weiner at the end.
Apparently the writer discounts the period in time,,,
,,Called the "Gay 90's". { 1890's )
One of the most prosperous times for Americans the world has ever known.
Immigrants from around the world flocked to America's shores by ship to enjoy a tax free, central bank free, war free, period of time when "Gold" used as money was King ! When an America for the people, of the people, and by the people, was the King of countries.
Have him compare what the Fed central bankers have given us now !
October 2009 : Many Americans are searching for new lands to call home, because of the forced dependency on federal reserve I.O.U. notes and the misery that they have caused to millions of people.....Poverty,and in some cases extreme poverty. Of course if you are able to live and work in an ivory tower like presumably the writer has done, he has distanced himself from what America is becoming for the unemployed and down and outers, until he loses his current job to unemployment.
Ron Paul wants to change what the Fed has created, and millions of Americans agree with him !
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What a bullshit article
Actually Mr. Weidner, the depression was caused by an easy fed, not because the fed didn't do anything. You take an economics class, sir.
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Does the author know...
that Ron Paul is only the SECOND most popular American politician worldwide (assuming that Obama has not lost all his support so far) and that his international following is still growing by the day? This is proof that we ARE getting the world behind the idea of liberty and that the winds of change ARE coming for a freer human race.
Im not buying it one bit....
If what he said was true, then the author would have a good point, but its not true and has NEVER BEEN PROVEN TRUE!!!! All they do is look through the keynesian lense, as if thats the only way you can look at things. How many times and how many countries have the keynesian method? How many times has socialism failed? Keynesian economics has failed so many damn times, but they act like its the only way to do things. They are just trying to scare us.... Its not like Paul would flip everything over right away... Dr. Paul said its a gradual process to turn things back over to the way the founding fathers envisioned it. This author said that the founding fathers debated this issue, but if not mistaken, there was no debate, they inherently knew it was evil. Central banking came from Britain and look at how great their system is? Its closer to bankrupcy than we are! Why cant we just give the free markets a try!!!! These ass holes at MarketWatch and Congress and Government either say "we are going to make a change and run this country as a corporatism/cronism capitolism!" Then it inevitably fails and then they say "We are going to make a change and make this work on socialism!!" Then it enevitably fails and then they go back to corporatism capitalism and the cycle repeats! Why dont we try the God damn freemarkets for once!!!! Is that so damn hard?!?!?! I hate this idiots!!!
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"Shall we proceed to prove them wrong, yet again?"
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Maybe we read two different articles;
I didn't think the one I read was nice. It's entire aim was to debunk RP's challenge to the Fed. It was an apology piece for the Fed; I think the author only skimmed the book looking for ways he could try to argue against it.
He's one more in the cacophony of condescending apologists for the status quo, and because he camouflaged this hit piece with a nod to Paul's charisma, it superficially appears to be a reasoned evaluation of his book.
Just submit, peons, to the Central Banking cartel of the world. No way out is his message. Maybe his job depends on that viewpoint.
My reading was the same as yours
And the comments confirm that other Ron Paul people came down hard on the author.
Don't mean to offend anyone, but that's just the truth.
If I am not mistaken is not MarketWatch a Murdoch corporation?
That would explain the article and the author's lack of any substantive criticism of Paul.
Agree
that this piece(of you know) is just another in a long line of hit pieces seeking cover as reasoned, unbiased commentary. These people are NOT our friends, they never will be our friends and they will ALWAYS use every means they have to fight us to the bitter end and beyond.
"You are a den of vipers and thieves."
I mean to rout you out!
-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us
-The door is wide open, anything can slither in
Just once i'd like to see
Just once i'd like to see somebody actually explain why this is a bad idea. The author writes,
"One of his ideas in particular is just too scary, too radical, too naive and just plain stupid that it turns off people who are serious about reform, especially reform on Wall Street.
Eliminating the Federal Reserve in an idealist vacuum is a compelling idea. In today's world, however, eliminating the Fed would be tantamount to handing over the keys of our financial system to the European Union, China or any foreign economic power with a strong central bank. Yet, that's exactly what Paul wants."
And then proceeds to quote the Doctor in all of his reasons why he wants to get rid of it. Where is the explanation of why ending the fed would be giving ourselves away to China? Crickets.
Exactly
I notice that too. Every time I see people talk about Dr Paul, they say that he is a wingnut, not even stating any facts, or even wanting to listen. Corporate shills.
Your first sentence is the
Your first sentence is the key to the debate. An ivy-league professor of economics whose thesis advisor was Milton Friedman back in the 60s in Chicago is a lunch-once-a-year friend of mine, and to my question on the gold standard (which is related to the Fed of course), he responded, "Gold is fine until it isn't, study the Great Depression." I am studying of course for a longer debate at 2010's lunch.
The first 5 million supporters of Dr. Paul are 'early adopters.' The next 10 million will require a modified approach.
Your friend is an idiot.
His credentials notwithstanding, if he blames the depression on gold, he's a damned fool.
-jcr
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I don't know what they're
I don't know what they're thinking exactly, but I assume they are of the opinion that having the ability to raise and lower interest rates according to the situation is an advantage over someone who can't do that, so they conclude that other central banks will have a huge advantage to a Fed-less US and take over US policy.
what they don't get is that it's not an advantage.
or that it only would be if ben barnanke would, in his infinite wisdom
1. know the correct interest rate
2. be willing to implement it.
"End the Fed" is a simplification though. neither paul nor schiff advocate abolishing the fed at this point.
but getting critisized for a simplification of a complex topic to get public support by someone who probably just voted for someone whose entire agenda was a single word...