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Top Nine Reasons NOT to get your children vaccinated:
Submitted by someguy on Tue, 10/06/2009 - 11:50
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A Doctor says "NO" for his children on fox news. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/0... » |
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Seems Oprah favorite Doc is not giving his kids vacs either
Dr. Oz Will Not Give Vaccine to His Kids
http://www.infowars.com/dr-oz-will-not-give-vaccine-to-his-k...
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good or bad, ABC News reports that over the next few weeks
the vaccine will be flowing at 20 million doses per week. (As of sept 30 '09 the entire population of Australia is 22 million) Once this ball gets rolling folks- it would only take a few months to vaccinate the entire US. And this time of year people are kinda into their flu shots. My guess is that theyll have a few celebrity endorsements (so far one of the backstreet boys has contracted the H1N1 lol) and a few scary death stories and America will be sweeter on the vaccine than they were on Obama when he first broke out.
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As I was reading your comment Julia louise drifus (spelling?) was on Craig Fergeson talking about it.
More on thimerosal and mercury in the H1N1 vaccines
Found this from the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/thimerosal_qa.htm
"Will the 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine contain thimerosal?
The 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines that FDA is licensing (approving) will be manufactured in several formulations. Some will come in multi-dose vials and will contain thimerosal as a preservative. Multi-dose vials of seasonal influenza vaccine also contain thimerosal to prevent potential contamination after the vial is opened.
Some vaccine manufacturers will be producing 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine in single-dose units, which will not require the use of thimerosal as a preservative. In addition, the live-attenuated version of the vaccine, which is administered intranasally (through the nose), is produced in single-units and will not contain thimerosal. "
and this:
"Since 2001, no new vaccine licensed by FDA for use in children has contained thimerosal as a preservative, and all vaccines routinely recommended by CDC for children under six years of age have been thimerosal-free, or contain only trace amounts, except for multi-dose formulations of influenza vaccine. This was done as a precautionary step and not because there was evidence confirming that thimerosal-containing vaccines were causing health problems. The most recent and rigorous scientific research does not support the hypothesis that thimerosal-containing vaccines are harmful."
Mercola's 9 reasons
My own previous view about the need for H1N1 vaccine has softened, largely due to #1, below. But a lot of Mercola's arguments against H1N1 vaccine don't hold much water or are off-topic.
#1. He may be right about the death rate being no higher with H1N1 than with other viruses. But the virus can mutate at any time and become more deadly.
http://www.swine-flu-update.org/death-rate-for-h1n1swine-flu...
plus, kids do die from the flu, even healthy kids. I've never had mine vaccinated against the flu, and myself have not received a flu vaccination ever, so I'm not really pushing the vaccination idea, if in fact it is true that H1N1 is no more deadly than the usual flu. That's sort of the key issue in my mind.
#2. Prior flu vaccines being useless. - This is NOT true. There are lots of good studies proving that vaccines do protect against the strain of flu that's circulating in the year that the vaccine is given. The flu viruses are always mutating - this is why you need to get revaccinated when a different strain comes out.
#3. Adjuvants/mercury.
This is what the CDC says about adjuvants:
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm
Will the 2009 H1N1 vaccines that are currently recommended contain adjuvants?
"No. According to current federal plans, only unadjuvanted vaccines will be used in the United States during the 2009 flu season. This includes all of the 2009 H1N1 and seasonal influenza vaccines that will be available for children and adults in both the injectable and nasal spray formulations. None of these influenza vaccines will contain adjuvants.
2009 H1N1 vaccines with adjuvants are being studied to determine if they are safe and effective. Experts will review these data when they are available. There is no plan at this time to recommend a 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine with an adjuvant."
Multidose vials of injectable vaccines will contain thimerosal (mercury). SIngle-dose vials will not. The inhaled (live virus) vaccine does not contain mercury as far as I know (see the mercury website link below).
http://mercuryexposure.org/index.php?page_id=37
#4. Mock vaccines, testing. Maybe, but the vaccines are basically made the same way as always. Testing is usually for efficacy. No big deal here. It was an emergency, since no one new in advance that #1 would be true. Basically, the dilemma is this: (1) you need a new vaccine every year, and (2) complete safety and efficacy testing takes 1-2 years. But in retrospect, looking back, these same types of influenza vaccines have been both safe and effective.
#5. Over-vaccination in kids and what vets do for dogs? So not getting polio any more is a bad thing?
#6. Autism in Amish. The Amish get and don't get lots of diseases, due to their genetically inbred background. The vaccine-autism link is very iffy.
Anyway, we're talking about autism developing before age 2. It almost never develops in school age kids who were previously healthy. So this argument would not apply to vaccinating school-age kids (age 4 and above) in any case.
#7,8. Resistance to Tamiflu. These viruses mutate rapidly. The fact that they are now resistant to Tamiflu is an argument FOR vaccination, and not AGAINST it.
#9. Vitamin C and D. Ok, you should be taking these anyway. The vaccines aren't perfect, and protection by vitamin C and D isn't perfect. This has nothing to do with whether or not you should get vaccinated. The vitamin D protection against flu is just a theory. It may be right, but it still is just a theory.
I don't even know where to
I don't even know where to begin on your arguments so I'll just constrain it to your point on Autism. Autism isn't generally diagnosed until after 18 months. Before that time it is usually suspected and labeled a developmental delay. Children do get diagnosed after 3 and 4 years of age. Autism, PDD, aspergers, and developmental delays can occur at later ages due to an insult by vaccines. I believe the CDC is currently urging vaccination for pregnant mothers and infants as they are deemed a high risk group. Yesterday I read that the occurrence of autism is now 1 in 90 children whereas the last report was 1/150. I predict this new round of vaccines will result in even more profound rates. Its unacceptable and needless and is immensely burdening our entire system. I don't know about other states, but where I live, the therapy costs 5-7k per month, per child. This funding is not financial needs based. Do the math. Wouldn't it be better and cheaper to keep people healthy and resistant to infection rather than continue our current practices?
I for one do not ascribe to the herd theory mentality.
So much of your post is
So much of your post is largely nonsense I'm not going to go through it line by line. I will make the following comments:
A. Anyone relying and trusting the CDC is asking for trouble.
B. One does not "need" any vaccine every year.
C. Mutating viruses make vaccines for them largely pointless and at best a crapshoot.
D. As for adjuvants not being used click here and read 3.1 and 4.1.2:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMe...
E. Perhaps the most damning argument regarding vaccine safety is the fact one cannot bring a lawsuit against the individual who administered the vaccine or the manufacturer who manufactured it. Some years back the gov't passed legislation making it a no-fault system. One's only recourse is to submit a claim to the NVICP and wait 2-7 while they try to prove you wrong and get out of compensating the parents of the injured/deceased child. Despite this they have to date paid out an amount approaching $3 billion.
The next time a doctor claims vaccines are safe ask "then why did laws have to be passed to protect you and manufacturers from a lawsuit."
just a quick note
I'm not knowledgeable to really wade in on the vaccine debate, but I just wanted to pop in and comment on your reason #6 "The Amish get and don't get lots of diseases, due to their genetically inbred background". I believe that inbreeding dramatically increases the chance for disease, and ultimately weakens an organism, not strengthens resistance.
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