Wall Street Journal: How Ron Paul Could Change the Race
Submitted by Michael Nystrom on Tue, 12/04/2007 - 14:40WSJ: How Ron Paul Could Change the Race
Republican Candidate Is Poised to Win Role as Spoiler
By SUSAN DAVIS
December 4, 2007; Page A6
Manchester, N.H. -- After shocking the Republican Party establishment with a surge in online support, Rep. Ron Paul is trying to translate his Internet revolution into real votes, particularly in New Hampshire.
The Texan's latest campaign swing through the early-primary state shows it is going to be a tough climb -- though he could have an impact on the race for the Republican presidential nomination.
"As a realist and as an experienced political person, I know that it's extremely unlikely he is going to get the nomination," says Keith Murphy, who runs an unofficial Paul campaign headquarters at his Elm Street bar. "Having said that, if he can win in any state in the nation, it's New Hampshire."
Continued here...
Thanks Joe.
exposure is fantastic...
but everything begins in the early part of '08.
that is when the real math begins.
[not similar to 'Karl Rove's New Math concept]
-jared-
When one person can initiate war, by its definition, a republic no longer exists.
- Dr. Ron Paul's message to the U.S. House - 3/09/99 -
- RonPaul2008.com -
-jared-
When one person can initiate war, by its definition, a republic no longer exists.
- Dr. Ron Paul's message to the U.S. House - 3/09/99 -
- RonPaul2008.com -
What the polls don't show
The polls which measure the favorites of Republican voters don't consider Republicans who typically don't vote in the primaries, libertarian supports of Dr. Paul, and the disillusioned Democrats and apathetics who have never voted Republican or at all. This is a significant portion of Ron Paul's supporter base, so I expect Ron Paul to be in the double digits in several, maybe at least half of the states. In this tight of a race, that's going to make a huge difference.
What "we know" that they DON'T...
What "we know" that they DON'T is that RP supporters show up for anything and everything-- including "election day!" RP people will suffer through whatever snowstorm, rainstorm or whatever Mother Nature or the GOP throws at us (lol). We put the POST OFFICE to shame (lol)!
Just like what happened in San Francisco when "too many" Ron Paul supporters showed up that they "were not expecting," they will suffer a chronic case of deja-vu come Primary Day!
Shhhhhhhhhhhh, it's "our secret"...lol :-)
It looks like they
won the democratic caucus also - Well they came in second!
Just another Hit Piece with a Non-Hit Piece title
Hit piece in disguise. I don't know who this Keith Murphy guy is, but you can bet the reporter is cherry picking her statements from Ron Paul supporters and is only including the ones that put him in a negative light. Maybe she just asked the right question to Keith and this is the response he gave (in other words it was taken out of context). Or maybe Keith wanted it kept off the record but it got published anyway. Or maybe she just made it up (this is one of Rupert Murdoch's newspapers anyway.)
Anyway, its a hit piece. Gawd our media sucks. They don't even try to be unbiased. *barf*
re: just another hit piece....
I also noticed how intent the author was on emphasizing the prediction that Ron Paul WON'T win...sounds like they're putting too much effort in dismissing them... I think they're feeling more threatened by the second of Ron Paul's serious supporter gains.
Experience means jack if you don't know America 2.0
She cites my Liberty Dollar Chocolates and then calls it goofy. Anyway, it's certainly profitable if you want it to be so maybe everyone else should get with the program and make their own Ron Paul merch. You win a Revolution by changing the economy. You have to play fair in the adhocracy or we'll de-friend you. By next year Ron Paul Blimp Botnets could deliver our mail and provide free wireless ethernet.
Whoa, let me explain
I didn't say, "He can't win." I said it's unlikely that he will win.
And due to the reasons I detailed at http://www.dailypaul.com/node/10828, I believe that it is. Everything that I know from my experience, from my daily contact with mainstream NH residents, and from the people I know inside NH's political system tell me that this is the case.
I have nothing but the utmost respect for Dr. Paul and the amazing people in the grassroots, for all of their enthusiasm and energy and ideas. However, my belief in the philosophy and support for the campaign do not blind me to the serious errors I believe are being made by the well-meaning national campaign staff.
It's not yet too late, and I would love to see HQ get its act together and do what needs to be done to pull this thing off. But don't shoot the messenger. There are reasons that candidates pay people thousands and thousands of dollars to run campaigns: they know how to win. Our paid campaign staff is not doing what needs to be done to win. And the campaign staff here in NH isn't necessarily the people I'm talking about. It's the guys at national HQ who are designing ridiculously overpriced mail pieces that most people will never read, who are playing the same two commercials over and over and over again, and who are failing to articulate a clear reason why RP is so different from the other candidates.
So don't yell at me for telling it like it is. Yell at the people who are not doing what they should do to deliver a victory. And that's not me, and it's not you. It's the people getting a paycheck from this campaign that are just making some wrong decisions. That's where the fault lies, not with us, the grassroots, and not with RP.
And for the record, I was a paid campaign manager for four years before returning to the restuarant business to pay my way through grad school. So you can knock me for being "self-important," or whatever, but I offered my constructive advice to the campaign because I believe in the cause, not to boost my own image of self-worth. They can take it or leave it. So far they seem to be leaving it, but maybe they just haven't gotten it yet.
Is there any way to GET THROUGH to HQ??
I think a lot of what was said was true. We are sending in millions of dollars for SOMEONE to get the job done right. Sometimes it seems as if "US" and by us I mean the grassroot supporters are doing a better job campaigning than the campaign headquarters. If it were not for the efforts of the grassroots movements coupled with Dr. Paul himself, I dont think we would be where we are at this moment.
campaign deficiencies
Rearden is right. I have been a supporter of Dr. Paul for a long time, and I contributed very early on, but I am disappointed that there are basic, basic things that the campaign is not doing.
Just as an example, Romney and Giuliani are advertising on afternoon drive-time AM talk radio in suburban Boston; one show in particular has a strong populist streak and a huge share of listeners driving back to New Hampshire, and plenty of ads for Romney and Giuliani.
When I emailed the campaign wondering where their AM ads were playing, I got a bunch of nonsense about Ron Paul radio and underground radio.
Hello?! Those are fine for reaching the converted, but Joe Sixpack driving home to Nashua isn't ever going to turn them on unless he's already interested in Dr. Paul. In order to get him interested, you have to first reach him where he's already listening. There are RP ads on satellite, but damn few of the pickup trucks on I-93 northbound have XM radios.
There's no reason for the campaign not to be advertising on local AM radio. It makes me wonder what other simple things they're neglecting.
More on Internet Regulation and Less on Iraq War
Plus, I want to see the campaign pour on more about Internet Regulation and other ways real rights are being taken away from us (we have already lost the right to say hello to foreigners online - any contact we now have that seems free is only because the government has not enforced our official loss of rights on that score).
I want to see less criticism of the Iraq War because 57% of Republicans can't stand RP for that. We need to convince those people that the Iraq War is over and need not be a major reason for voting for a particular candidate.
This advice would remain going into a general election fight.
The Truth isn't Pretty
I think we all saw the TV commercials before they started using them. Truth is, I though they were Jr. High school level. Seriously. Ron, please hire a professional ad agency. I love you Ron and am working hard everyday to get you elected. I maxed out a long time ago and have spent much more than that since. I want you to win, really bad. Please fire your ad agency. And get some pros at HQ that know what they are doing. We've sent you the money to produce powerful TV ads. Please do so right away. The TV ads I saw in no way reflect the quality person that you are. If I didn't already know you, the commercials would not convince me to learn more about you.
David Cameron
Ron Paul Will Win
I am so sick of hearing that Ron Paul can't win. He is in this to win. We are working so that he will win. New Hampshire is the first step. Ron Paul supporters are dedicated and will vote. Most of the people I talk to hardly have an idea that the primaries are coming. We need to work everyday to get his name and message out there. We have no doubt. RON PAUL WILL WIN.
The heck with the Wall Street Journal....
Lets win New Hampshire! Let them choke!
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My fellow
My fellow Americans:
Recorded history show the cycle of man. Oppressed people find courage…courage bring action….action is followed by liberty…liberty brings affluent Society….being affluent we reseeds into complacency…complacency gives way to apathy…apathy turns into dependency … dependency completes the cycle back to oppression. History will record that America is at a tipping point between apathy and dependency.
In the next few months the course for America will be set. The primary elections gives common people a voice. For the first time, in your life time, you are given a choice. We can choose between prominent politicians or a statesman, a man who has fought all of his life, sometimes alone in the house of congress, to preserve the rights of all free men. We have been given the opportunity to join this noble endeavor. I for one welcome this challenge.
America, from it’s inception, has always been a beacon of hope. Today, even tarnished, we remains the leader of the free world. The world is calling out to be free.
We are at the fork in the road. What we do now will effect the liberty of all future Americans, plus the world of humanity. Our liberty, guaranteed by the constitution, is being eroded away. Some time laws are passed for noble causes, the results are the same, lost of liberty. Most of time it is a planed erosion. A republic, like the 10 commandments, will stand the test of time, left in it’s purest form. A democracy, acting on the whim of the majority, has no foundation. The results is a slide into fascism, a total lost of freedom. All humanity are endowed by our creator with these inalienable rights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We as Americans are guaranteed this by law.
George Washington said, “Americans would rather die on feet than live on their knees.” I ask all Americans to stand with me, no matter your political leaning or ideology. The alternative is un-thinkable.
All humanity is connected by 6 degrees of separation, meaning if you pass this message to all your friends and they in-turn do the same we can reach the world. Please take some time to ponder the enormity of the situation. Then join with me, together we can make a better world for our children and their children’s children, I thank you and they will too.
Our statesman, RON PAUL is putting his very life on the line, can we as Americans do any less.
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Jerry Spurlin
Respone to Davis at WSJ
Murdoch owns the paper. I sent this email anyway.
Dear Ms. Davis:
Thank you for your article on Dr. Paul's campaign.
I grew up with newspaper people. If anyone in the America needs the United States Constitution, it's a newspaper person.
The man you described below:
Neophyte
Foggy
Gadfly
No chance
Spoiler
Thompson humiliator
Conspiracy theory
Has spent a lifetime defending the Constitution.
I will admit, you did a superb job of insulting, belittling and marginalizing a man whom has been congress for thirty years protecting your freedoms.
Ms. Davis, this is a hit piece. At least you could have the decency to label it as such.
Best to you,
T
Rupert Murdoch strikes again.
Unify
Great Letter
I liked your comments!
My feelings exactly....I too felt it was a hit piece - a real smear!
Their words and negative spin will one day come back to bite them in the rear as they are making their fast exits.
"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry
"I've been around the [Mitt]
"I've been around the [Mitt] Romney campaign, the [Rudy] Giuliani and the [Sen. John] McCain people, and there's no one there that's attracted to Ron Paul."
They still don't get it, do they?
"He has no chance" is still the main talking point...
And the "single digit polling numbers" [Fox, American Research Group, etc.] in Iowa and New Hampshire fuel this impetus. These 'polls' do not seem to reflect what is observed....so I am going on a cold call campaign of my own to talk to Iowa, and to talk to New Hampshire ONE AT A TIME.
I've already called some folks w/the Ron Paul campaign in Iowa for numbers [several times] in East Iowa to call on behalf of the campaign, they refered me to a nice guy in Texas who refered me to a website which has some forms accounts, scripts, but few numbers.
I have an plan that is a departure from this plan, as I spent an hour or so looking for Iowa numbers. I am going to call folks in Clinton Iowa [this is where I grew up] this weekend, Davenport IA next weekend, Des Moines and so forth. I will be very polite, short and to the point, and very respectful of their precious time [on Saturday and Sunday afternoon].
Don't wait for orders from headquarters, the truth is that the Ron Paul campaign staff is TINY compared to Mittens, Ghoul, and so forth. Please [YOU, yes YOU] call Iowans, and please call New Hampshire folks. Cold calling is tough, but when the going gets tough....
If we lose Iowa and New Hampshire, the MSM will be printing large headlines in large bold font that read something like this "SEE RONBOT PAULITE SPAMMER HACKER KOOLAID DRINKING GEEKS IN MOM'S BASEMENT, TOLD YOU SO, YOU HAVE NO CHANCE, NONE, ZERO, IT'S ALL BUT OVER, NICE TRY, BUT IT'S OVER, AMERIKA WANTS BIG GOVERNMENT, YOU LOSE, HA!" on a daily basis from Jan to Feb 5. You know this is true. So call, call many, call often, and be extremely polite and professional, and if there is no chance with a person, thank them for their valuable time and move on to the next cold call number.
This game is numbers turnout numbers turnout numbers turnout.........
We need 1/2 the delegate votes [overall] to win the Republican nomination. Much of this force stems from Iowa and New Hampshire.
Please call. Be sincere and extremely polite, but call. I don't want to be making excuses in the middle of next year as to what went wrong, I don't want to blame anyone...what we have already achieved is amazing.....BUT CALL!
God bless.
Derek
I am Sick
I am sick of these self-appointed arbiters of possibility telling us what we can and can't do. I was just at the Republican Debate in St. Petersburg. Do you know what I saw? Legions of Ron Paul supporters, planes in the sky, boats on the water, and so called front-runners who couldn't even give their votes away at the straw poll.
We have the money. We have the ideas. We have the energy. We have the creativity. We have the momentum. Don't think for a moment that we can't win this.
I ditto that!
Dripping with negativity:
1. Ron Paul the spoiler - (like Ron responded, who am I spoiling? If somebody beats me, are they spoiling me?) Great!
2. Staffer quoted as saying Ron Paul doesn't have a chance. I'd like to hear his side of the story!
3. Foggy strategy
4. Goofy political neophyte campain
5. Just a Republican gadfly
6. A humiliating event: Fred losing to Ron Paul
7. Conspiracy theory jab
Man, with friends like this, who needs enemies? I dropped her a polite line thanking her for the press coverage (as negative as it was, Ron Paul still looks like the Hero!)
alan laney
Heck ya!
Let's get this baby won!
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A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. - Ben Franklin
His official New Hampshire headquarters
His official New Hampshire headquarters, 18 miles away in Concord, has only 10 paid staffers trying to coordinate operations.
Funny how the Rupert Murdoch-owned WSJ omits any mention of what I suspect is a large number of volunteers in New Hampshire who "coordinate operations" for themselves in their efforts to advance the Ron Paul r3VOLution.
In a sense the REAL Ron Paul HQ in NH is in the hearts of every Liberty-lover around the state.
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Stupid Comment
"As a realist and as an experienced political person, I know that it's extremely unlikely he is going to get the nomination," says Keith Murphy, who runs an unofficial Paul campaign headquarters at his Elm Street bar. "Having said that, if he can win in any state in the nation, it's New Hampshire."
Keith you have no politcal experience if you think that Ron Paul "can't" win. Rudy is going DOWN and Ron Paul UP in the latest Rasmussen poll. Can anyone with certainty at this point say who the nominee will be?You're a supporter? You sound like a neocon!
"If the people ever allow the banks to issue their currency, the banks and corporations which will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." T. Jefferson
If Keith Murphy is who I think he is
...he was one of what we called the NHLP Mafia during the Free State Project debates on the selection of a state. This idiotic comment sounds like just the sort of thing you'd expect from him: tooting his own horn as a supposed "experienced political person" while dragging the campaign down with his ineptness. Or he's a provocateur - you decide.
The best thing Ron Paul could do right now is show Keith the door. He's not going to do the campaign any good, that's for sure. If there is a victory it will be in spite of him, not because of him.
Woops, he runs the "unofficial" campaign headquarters. Well then the rest of the unofficial troops ought to abandon him and his bar en masse.
Keith is right...
and he's a loyal Ron Paul supporter! If there is a Ron Paul victory it will be in spite of the CAMPAIGN! Ron Paul and his supporters are in this to WIN! The national campaign is NOT in it to win! Don't believe me? Ask Jesse Benton, RP's campaign spokesman. He stated on Alex Jone's show, after the Aim's Straw poll "We're happy with Ron's 5th place finish" and then today the "RP campaign aiming for third place in Iowa". Will Jesse be happy with 5th place again? Thats a LOSING attitude. And there's a lot more.I hope to God, Ron cleans house, because they WILL cost him the election.
Is Murphy for real?
Why in the world would a supporter run an unofficial Paul campaign headquarters say that its unlikely that Ron Paul will win? The last article from the Wall Street Journal was also very negative because they quoted two radical "DailyPaul" posters as representing ALL of RP's supporters.
I guess its takes them a long time to sit in our forum watching and interviewing so-called unofficial Paul campaign headquarters leaders like Keith Murphy to get their negative point across. Let's see, 2 WSJ articles using 3 supporters (two of which were just screen names) to represent millions of Ron Paul supporters all over the country. That's called selective negative journalism and anyone with brains can figure out what they are doing.
The real problem is that the Wall Street Journal doesn't like Dr Paul because he represents sound money. When you represent sound money that means that the FED would have to stop conterfeiting billions and billions of dollars and quit lowering interest rates just to keep an artificial stockmarket afloat.
The Wall Street Journal doesn't realize what most of the economic sector and investors (who are jumping onto the Ron Paul train) realize that IF we don't stop dumping billions and billions of fake money into the market and quit lowering interest rates then the dollar will collapse and eventually the stock market will crash as well. The Wall Street Journal does not represent the best interests of the American people but rather represents ONLY big bankers and large corporations, period.
Don't Forget
the Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, just like Fox News. Don't expect them to treat Ron any differently than Fox does.