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Japan threatens to kick out US troops

Japan is threatening to ask US troops based on the island of Okinawa to leave the country amid growing resentment over crime.
By Julian Ryall in Tokyo

The new government is reviewing an agreement with Washington on US military facilities following through on a campaign pledge to islanders who have borne the brunt of the American presence for more than 60 years.

Around 50,000 American troops are based in Japan, around two-thirds of the total are in Okinawa. Resentment against their presence has grown in recent years due to a series of crimes committed by service personnel.

Many of the crimes are relatively trivial, but other cases have brought tens of thousands of protesters onto the streets. In February 2008, a case against a marine accused of raping a girl aged 14 was dropped after she withdrew the accusation, apparently to avoid the ordeal of a trial.

The case revived bitter memories of the abduction and rape of a 12-year-old schoolgirl in 1995 by three US servicemen.

Katsuya Okada, the foreign minister, said he wants the American military to remain in Japan but that the concentration on Japan's most southerly islands needed to be reduced.

"The only way this presence can be sustained in the long term is to make sure that the burden on the Okinawans is decreased in some way," he said. "Only by accomplishing these goals will we be able to ensure that the US-Japan alliance will be sustainable."

Another long-standing complaint against the US forces is pollution and the noise their aircraft make during practice flights, particularly at bases that are in the most densely populated parts of the island.

The most seriously affected municipality is Ginowan, which surrounds the Marine Corps' Futenma Air Station.

The previous Japanese government had reached an agreement with Washington to transfer 8,000 Marines and their dependants to the Pacific island of Guam by 2012, close the Futenma facility and transfer its functions to an enlarged US base on the north-east coast of the prefecture.

The plan has been attacked by people living close to Camp Schwab and environmentalists, who claim that the proposal for new runways built on reclaimed land will devastate the local flora and fauna.

The US has stated that it wants to stick with the existing plan. John Roos, the US ambassador to Tokyo, said on Friday that Japan will be given time "to analyse, to review, to ask questions and, hopefully, come to the conclusion that it is in both parties' best interests."

It is not at all certain that Yukio Hatoyama, the prime minister, agrees with that assessment as he has been a vocal critic of U.S. foreign and financial policies, as well as expressing a desire to follow a more independent security line than previous Japanese governments.

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This has been a long time coming, for more info on this, read "Nemesis" by Chalmers Johnson (author of "Blowback"), but I have to warn you; it will make you extremely angry.

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The troops were going to leave anyway


Plans have been in the works for quite a while to move the troops from Okinawa to Guam.

Maybe the Japanese have a new tenant for the base and want them out?

Sayonara, round-eyes!

It's about time

I've been worrying about Guam, terrorists in training.

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Well, I guess he called that one.

HA, gladly

It's about time the Japanese start paying for their own defenses. i wonder how much we spend on those bases.

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Gee...

Do the words "Just come home" ring a bell?

So what do 50,000 troops DO ALL DAY???

Play dominos and cards?

And then support the Okinawa economy when they purchase goods.

Stationed along the Mexican border would give these guys plenty to do and it might even prove useful to America.

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try the brothels....seriously

The whore houses around the bases are an economy in and of themselves....that's why we gave Japan tons of money for alcohol education for the prostitutes there.

exactly

but that would make too much sense..right now the Department of Homeland Security is **supposed** to be doing that ...right?

Don't forget the border patrol...

when i lived in a border town last year, you saw more border patrols in town and at Jack in the Box then driving the border highway...again what's the justification? Also, i remember the media only slightly covering the 100 or so grievances filed against border patrol agents for bribes, etc. I guess the border patrol is too busy making deals for hundreds of thousands of dollars, than keeping the illegals out.

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Amen to that!

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So if they kick out the US military

what will replace it? A Chinese military?

navy

We still would have a Navy with boats and subs and aircraft carriers.

Either way, Japan isn't part of the USA.

A person I know is married to a Japanese--

I asked about Troops in Japan, and what the Japanese think about that?

The answer: The Japanese are not ALLOWED to have an army because of agreements after the 2nd World War. We insisted on this, and The Japanese Constitution was drafted to our specs.

We are there to defend Japan--in the absence of their own forces. So----in order for us to pull out and allow Japan to be a sovereign country, they would need to be allowed to draft a new constitution, and have their own military forces.

It's not like......

It's not like japan has no military at all. Japan has the SDF, or the self defense force and currently has one of the highest defense budgets in the world only second to america(although china is catching up quickly and america is still at top and growing)

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We would need to allow... so Japan is

an occupied country, still 50 years after the war ; amazing the world has been so patient with US dictatorship. That may help explain why Japan followed the US economic model, right into lasting recession.

This is an outrage to me that we are still treating the Japanese

people this way. I can see the original reason for this---but when we establish diplomatic relations with a country, and that country is friendly to us---let's BE friends--
I would venture to guess that IF any Japanese still hate us, it doesn't have anything to do with WWII, but with our conduct since then.

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yes

it's dead on, not sure about their constitution having to be drafted, but they can't run their own military because of us. Actually, their foreign policy for the most part was run by our admirals, this is a step in the right direction for them

Just another reason to end these wars...

too many troops with combat illness, avoidable and unnecessary at that. I'm not defending anyone, but I've seen firsthand what these BS wars can do to the psyche. You know the Army has changed their training from more disciplined to less disciplined??? I think that has something to do with it as well. Combat illness with low discipline and excuses for all sorts of behavior...what happened to the distinguished military we had in WWI and WWII???

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GREAT NEWS.... please send

GREAT NEWS.... please send our boys home... our ships, our money,,, the billions of dollars that your people make of our soldiers would be better off here supporting our own businesses... GREAT NEWS!

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I'm very surprised. Japan has been real "buddy buddy" historicly

I believe this is a "canary in the mine" warning. If we loose the "voluntary & enthusiastic support of Japan...we have lost the most important Asian partner we have.
Don't blame them though...they now know about 9/11 and I'm sure they are putting the pieces all together as to the other "unusual occurences" that have always had a common "CIA - NWO - MOSAD connection !!!

Loaded with near worthless dollars and at the same time seeing the TRUE evil that backs those bonds...I imagine things are touchy politiclly.

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The money is no good anymore. They see that clearly.

We use to be the big-kid-on-the-block. Now, we are the bag man looking for a hand-out, selling debt with worthless dollars.

They don't need us anymore.

Be still my heart!!!!! Hope this starts a trend!

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hell yes. they definitely

hell yes. they definitely should. it would help both of our countries.

They are already in the

They are already in the process of doing this but the sad thing is, the US government is making Japan pay to get them out! It's high level blackmail at its finest!

They are moving the 17 and 18 year old Grunts to Guam. I feel sorry for my old home....

All

countries that the US has other bases in should throw them out! it's ridiculous they should all have to cow tow to the US. It's about time our government was treated like it would expect to be treated. Why do all of these countries put up with it? The US sure wouldn't.
Can you imagine how arrogant and powerful some of the troops might feel about being there. Talk about a likely group of jack boot thugs. We are US military what are you gonna do about it. probably alot of them worse than out wonderful 'peace officers' here in the states. Think of the power trip some of them are sure to get on.

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They all like the money with these military contracts.

Think of Communist Cuba, our most perceived, hatted, and closest island neighbor. What base has been there forever? Guantanamo Bay! Even through the Cuban Missile Crisis, we were there!

However, when the dollar goes bust and they all see that coming soon, then what you said will be exactly right.