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Submitted by declarationofre... on Sun, 10/18/2009 - 11:39.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

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"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

My math might be off, I just roughed in some states

Submitted by paul4won on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 16:43.

but I do believe Idaho had the best turnout.
:)

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Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

What was the turnout in Id.?

Submitted by ZeroFiction on Tue, 10/13/2009 - 07:36.

What polling place were you working at?

Waste of time and resources

Submitted by captcorona on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 10:39.

Until the States call for an Article 5 Convention or the State Governments choose delegates for a Constitutional Convention, you might as well be attending a girl scout meeting. It has just as much authority. This Continental Congress may be a fun exercise in patriotism but carries no weight or authority from anyone or any thing. It is little more than a parlor exercise. A better use of time (unless you are simply a hobbyist) is State involvement. Making sure you elect people locally who will uses their ACTUAL Authority to protect it's citizens from the expansion of the Federal Government. Sorry to drop a little reality onto this thread...

I don't think you have your facts straight. You are speaking

Submitted by Anisha on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 16:39.

from your perception of this rather than fully understanding how this is a formal redress from the people of their government to set the record straight. This option was granted both in the Declaration and our Constitution. Importantly it creates a public record for the whole world to see. It will require a formal response from government. We will see how they respond.

The last time we ever had a Continental Congress was 1775 when the colonies redressed the King for all their grievances. It resulted in a Declaration of Independence followed by Articles of Confederation for about 10 years until 1787 when they formalized the Constitution.

http://therootsofchange.com

A waste of time?

Submitted by JerichoDotm on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 11:08.

Do you expect any plans to make drastic changes to be acknowledged by the system? Are you under the impression this was something put together in a couple months? This has been in the works for 10+ years. Are you even familiar with what Bob has been doing the past 10+ years? Do you realize all other options have been exhausted? Go back and read through archives: http://www.givemeliberty.org/spotlights/archive/Archive1.htm

I think you will gain a new respect for the efforts of the people involved in this group.

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You all are shooting Blanks!

Submitted by JonQ.Publik on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 06:37.

Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

So sec 10 reads concerning contrasts:

"No State shall... pass any... Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts,..."

Therefore, Contract law is the supreme law of the land, and as long as you remain a 14th amendment citizen you are under contract law. This contract law is not fully contained in this amendment but in a host of laws and regulation concerning the 14th amendment. One of the corporate regulations is that you can not avail yourself to the rights of a citizen of the states because you are a 14th amendment citizen not a citizen of the state and you don't even have the right to complain about it. You have privileges not rights.

Conclusion: As long as the 14th amendment status remains no change will come to this nation.

They aren't ignoring the Constitution they are vary much following it. Its you people that are ignoring it by remaining 14th amendment citizens.

"Come out of her my people, come out of confusion, come out of Babylon."

JonQ.Publik

Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.

Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!

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JonQ.Publik

Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.

Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!

The 14th amendment may not be valid

Submitted by Njon on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 16:24.

Check out what Dr. Thomas Woods said in The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History (Regnery Publishing, 2004) about the 14th amendment not being lawfully ratified: http://bit.ly/1kU91G (link to Google Books).

See also http://www.constitution.org/14ll/no14th.htm and http://www.constitution.org/14ll/truth_14th.htm

14th or not you still can't get by Obligation of Contracts!!

Submitted by JonQ.Publik on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 18:39.

14th amendment or not you still can't get by Obligation of Contracts!!

So sec 10 reads concerning contrasts:

"No State shall... pass any... Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts,..."

Even if I'm full of shit with the 14th, this is how they are screwing us. With our permission, in the Obligation of Contracts.

Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished. Ratified 12/6/1865. History

1. "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude,...."

Well you can "voluntary". It is a trap that most people are unwilling to get out of if they don't understand the whole picture. The biggest reason they don't want out is the benefits that come with being a voluntary slave.

STOP SIGNING YOUR NAME TO ANY THING THAT MAKES YOU OBLIGATED AS A SLAVE.

JonQ.Publik

"Come out of her my people, come out of confusion, come out of Babylon."

Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.

Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!

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JonQ.Publik

Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.

Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!

Contracts

Submitted by Njon on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 19:11.

The clause says that states cannot impair contracts; that doesn't necessarily mean that the feds have the power to enforce contracts (with the possible exception of when a state does pass a law impairing contracts). The clause is a state restriction more than a federal enumeration of power. Contract law doesn't somehow authorize all of the blatantly unconstitutional things that the feds do.

Unfortunately it does!

Submitted by JonQ.Publik on Tue, 10/13/2009 - 06:47.

Unfortunately it does! All the "states" in the democracy are incorporated as a Federal corporation so the powers allotted to the "states" in the Republic pass on to the Federal custodian. So the answer is YES, commercial contract law (UCC) is the supreme law of the land to all 14th amendment "persons".
In the vacant seats of the Republican form of government guaranteed in Article 5 Sec. 4 of the US Constitution sit the elected persons of the democracy voted for by the voluntary slaves of the 14th, 15th & 18th amendments under "citizens of the United States" not "citizens of the several states".

You see in stead of the word people/s the word persons is used in the phrase 14 amend Sec. 1. "All persons born or naturalized..." the word "person" means the creation of an identity for the purpose of contract! If you where to have never signed any contracts in your life before age 0 and after you age 18 you would not be a person.
Example: under the definition of the word person in Black's Law Dictionary it states "Unborn child. Word "person" as used in the 14th Amendment does not include the unborn. Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, 93 S.Ct. 705, 729 35 L.Ed2d 147. Why? Because the child has no contracts with the state or Federal governments to give a remedy to.

When the Constitutional Convention was in play, I believe Hamilton said "...if a Federal government where to be created, it could not interact with the citizens of the several states, it could only interact with the 'person' of the citizen..."

I'm not making this all up. You can read it for your self in the Federalist papers and Anti-federalist papers and Black's Law Dictionary.

JonQ.Publik

"Come out of her my people, come out of confusion, come out of Babylon."

Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.

Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!

—

JonQ.Publik

Resistance is not futile, what's futile is non-resistance.

Live Free or Die! Because if you are not free you’re dead already!

UCC is state law

Submitted by Njon on Tue, 10/13/2009 - 18:58.

UCC is state law, not federal law. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uniform_Commercial... Even if it were federal, it would be unconstitutional to begin with because the feds have no constitutional authority to use the commerce clause to usurp state authority.

As I already pointed out, the legality of the 14th amendment is highly questionable. Also, even if it were valid, it is only applicable insofar as original intent (at the time of its ratification) would take it, not as far as any possible construction of the words might allow; I believe even Jefferson said something along those lines when explaining how to interpret the Constitution, i.e., to not ask what kind of meaning can be stretched from the words, but rather to ask what the likely intent was. See also http://federalistblog.us/mt/articles/14th_dummy_guide.htm

So even if the 14th amendment were lawfully valid (and it probably isn't) and the people who wrote it intended for it to do what you're suggesting, such actions would still not count as being constitutional unless the general consensus of ratifying state legislatures concurred with that intent. See also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7SpA2Qe3FM

Also, as a side note, you're citing Supreme Court case precedent. Case precedent does not supersede the original intent of constitutional law. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/794

I think you're giving the statists too much credit. They aren't a bunch of legal geniuses who use the Constitution to manipulate us with complex contract laws; they typically just violate the Constitution. For example, Judge Napolitano said that he recently spoke with Congressman James Clyburn, one of the top Democrats in the House, and Clyburn told Napolitano that most of what Congress does is not authorized by the Constitution; Clyburn defended this by saying that it is not prohibited, either (apparently not bothering to read the 10th amendment).

I think everyone involved is fully aware of this..

Submitted by JerichoDotm on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 07:18.

..and it's just one of the issues that will have to be addressed. Badnarik speaks of this every opportunity he gets and he'll be one of the delegates from Texas.

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Watch Badnarik, Roland, etc. discuss CC2009

Submitted by JerichoDotm on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 03:36.

To watch Ron Avery, Jon Roland and Michael Badnarik discuss the upcoming Continental Congress 2009 click the ON-DEMAND button below and go the folder and watch all six 15 minute segments. Then watch the bottom screen to watch the Meet the Nominees at the Silver Eagle Taphouse

Here --> http://silvereagletaphouse.com/bubba-factor-tv.html
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Anyone know

Submitted by ShineTheLight on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 02:51.

where results are posted from Saturday?

I know final results will not be until after 17th and mail-ins are counted.

Send this letter to your local news editors!

Submitted by JerichoDotm on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 00:32.

Everyone,

Send this letter to your local media outlet editors:

To the Editor:

Bailouts, layoffs, foreclosures, social decay, family destruction and endless wars. Most don’t know it but virtually every problem that America now suffers is the direct result of violations of the Constitution by our (servant) government.

Finally, there is hope! This November, publicly elected citizen-delegates representing the People of each state will convene at a national assembly known as “Continental Congress 2009.” The purpose of this historic event is to formally document the violations and develop strategies the People can employ to peacefully resist tyranny and restore Constitutional Order.

It’s time to hold our servant government accountable and reclaim the Light of Liberty. Learn more about CC2009 and the true power of Popular Sovereignty at www.cc2009.us

Use this tool to automate the process --> http://capwiz.com/naus/dbq/media/

THANKS!

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Sent all radio/tv/news media this message.

Submitted by Anisha on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 07:30.

I have to say I am somewhat heartbroken we didn't have this earlier to announce to people to vote for their State delegates.

BTW, rmcc4444, I find this media tool invaluable. We gotta use this to our benefit. So many do not yet know what positive actions are taking place. Its up to us to use the letter to editor and get the message out!

http://therootsofchange.com

Indeed

Submitted by JerichoDotm on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 09:43.

I have huge lists of regional media contacts with phone numbers, email addresses, etc. Enjoy --> http://www.reboottherepublic.com/blog/activism/huge-regional...
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Just got back fro voting for

Submitted by netzorro on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 16:42.

Just got back fro voting for Michael B. (Tx)

“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
-Sam Adams

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“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
-Sam Adams

Articles of Confederation

Submitted by EnkiJr on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 07:18.

The duty of the Continental Congress shall be to address the issues of the past and present in light of not only the Constitution but first of all... in light of the Articles of Confederation...

This link will compare the the TWO above in the respective major points...

We-The-People participating in the works of the Continental Congress should get ourselves educated in the differences and discuss/vote on them according to our conscience...

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/108825#comment-1188648

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>>>>>>>> *Articles of Confederation* >>>>> *Constitution*
Levying >>> Congress could request >>>>>> Congress has right
taxes >>>> states to pay taxes >>>>>>>>> to levy taxes on individuals
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follow the link to learn more....

Bump

Submitted by Anisha on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 00:18.

http://therootsofchange.com

This looks promising

Submitted by Rebel on Fri, 10/09/2009 - 22:43.

I hope it makes ground.

This will be a NATIONAL FREEDOM THINK TANK event.

Submitted by someguy on Fri, 10/09/2009 - 23:55.

Imagine that. WOW!!!!!!!!!!

"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

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"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

Indeed

Submitted by JerichoDotm on Fri, 10/09/2009 - 22:53.

Not sure what will come out of it, but it is the direction we need to go.
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