Thats it.. I am Out of here! Good Bye U.S.A
We all know what is about to come, One of the biggest financial Meltdowns in history brought on by a collapsing dollar... We all know what this will bring..A complete Government take over and most likely Martial Law and a suspension and eventually complete destruction of the Constitution... I had hope, I saw the movement gaining momentum and it still is! Just not fast enough! Todays announcement of the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to a president who illegally bombs pakistan and is still in one undeclared war and escalating another all the meanwhile threatening Iran is Discraceful. But what sickens me more than the complete lack of Judgement by the Nobel peace Prize committee is the reaction by my Friends and many American People. It has reminded me that we live in a country of fools that have been indoctrinated and programmd to be mindless slaves to an oppressive Government. If you choose to stay and fight, know that your are up for a battle that will most likely end in death unless you give in. I know this is a global situation and GLOBAL enslavement is the ultimate goal but it will start in the U.S. and it is at the beggining stages. The elite are patient, its about Family Status so time is of no importance. It has took 100 years since the Federal Reserve to get to this point, perhaps efforts can be made in other countries to stop global enslavement especially after they see what has happened in the U.S.
If anyone has any suggestions or is somewhere outside the U.S. your input of your location would be very much appreciated. I am concentrating on South America. I hope to be out of here within 6 months time.
To those that stay and fight you are true patriots!
What are they gonna do???
Kill me and take me to my creator... Guess what? Life itself is a terminal disease! (You are guaranteed to die anyway) "Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God..." Saints used to be crucified, why should we expect any different? We are mere mortal men after all...
This reminds me of that cartoon with the bird with the animal in his mouth, and the animal has it's free arms choking the bird's neck with the caption: "Don't Ever Give Up!"
The Problem is No Country Wants un-skilled Americans.
Our government has managed to give "All" Americans a legacy of being war mongers. Who wants a warmonger living next door to them.
It's sad, but to move you must have a skill that is in short demand in the country you wish to move too.
beesting
Look into Belize
Look into Belize
"I learned to drink my...
licker way down in Coster ricker...ain't nobody's business what I do...what I do...what I do...well, it ain't nobody's business what I do".
I'm a stayin'. When we clean this mess up then you can come back!
I don't want them back.. A
I don't want them back..
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Fortunately for free people
Fortunately for free people everywhere it's not your choice to make!!! If a man is prudent and makes plans for his families safety, while the simpleton stays behind and suffers, where's the genius is being a tough guy and getting yourself killed? Where's the joy in killing others just to survive?
You Judge A Tree By It's Fruit, NOT its Flower
Why the venom?
Was it wrong to flee Germany in 1930?
Now I don't think anywhere else is going to be better, but if you think your life will be better elsewhere, you should go and enjoy your life. I have roots here and I believe I'm going to need people I can trust more than anything else, so for now, I'm stayin.
I leave on the 5th of
I leave on the 5th of November and don't plan on coming back any time soon.
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"Freedom suppressed and again regained bites with keener fangs than freedom never endangered." -- Cicero
"Freedom suppressed and again regained bites with keener fangs than freedom never endangered." -- Cicero
don't let the door hit you
don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Haha - I wonder if he'll still be able to get out by then.
As scared as these folks are, you'd think the sky was gonna fall pretty quick.
As for me, I accept the responsibility to defend my life, my family, my home, my community, my State, and my country. I'm not going anywhere.
sigh...
My family dates back to colonial times.. My entire family has served this country and fought in nearly every war. My peaceful Grandmother was one of a kind. The America she taught me about is hanging by a thread. If she were alive when the Patriot Act was passed it would have given her a heart attack.
I keep looking down the path we are on as a nation and I see nothing good. No rights. Economic turmoil. More wars for peace.
Ive got to stay here if SHTF. If I had to go it would be New Zealand or Costa Rica. Both stable, beautiful places. Costa Rica is much more free than America in a number of ways.
The comments on this thread has made me very sad. I love America. The arts, music and people are wonderful.
God Bless America..
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'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul
Well , I look at it in this
Well , I look at it in this way ..Doing nothing is a noble idea & that is all Obama has done so far..Maybe he is on to something ..
I really think they are screwing around to wait on the special election in MASS. , for the majority vote on healthcare ..then the SWHTF. Look out.
Obama will be back to really do some damage.
Good people do Good deeds
Good people make it happen
Doing nothing might be a noble stance
in a politician who doesn't know how to roll back tyranny.
But Obama, far from doing nothing, and far from rolling back tyranny, is happy increasing tyranny at home, robbery of the populace, murder abroad, and gorging himself on power and plunder.
Do what you must do.
The Nobel Peace Prize committee made a vain attempt to prevent future war by giving Obama the Peace Prize. I do not blame them for trying to avert senseless killing, but I know in my heart that Obama is Owned by the same corporate masters that owned Bush. Obama will continue down the same path that the puppeteers ordered Bush to follow.
If you wish to leave, I recommend Costa Rica. Beautiful climate, land and culture.
The military and the corporations own our government.
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good video
pisses me off and breaks my heart at the same time
life is too short and precious to be wantonly killing children
The Nobel committee is not that noble
Look into who they are, who runs them, who gets the awards... by golly, there's another bunny hole with the banksters at the bottom...
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
well, my perception was that they wanted to sway Obama,
but I've been wrong before.
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Mruiz- Yes, I admit it, I
Mruiz- Yes, I admit it, I am a keyboard Patriot, I have never served in the Military. It is clear as to what is happening in our country. I have been to every Tea Party, including 912DC, every town hall meeting with State Senators and Congressmen within 75 miles of where I live, have joined the Campaign for Liberty, the county Republican Party, a local PAC that helps like minded people get elected to the county board of supervisors and am a member of the Patriotic Resistance. My job is to help educate people and nudge them along in the processs everywhere I go. I send faxes, emails and telephone my Congressmen and Senators just about every week.
When the time comes, I will have to decide if I am willing to sacrafice my life in exchange for a better life for my son. Many Patriotic Americans will have to make that same decision. For me, I feel the line in the sand has laready been crossed. i am organizng with other local people who feel as I do. It has often been said that America is the last beacon of Freedom. If America loses all of it's freedom and liberty's, the rest of the world will too. I think you know that if America falls, you will be constantly looking over your shoulder waiting for the shoe to drop where ever you decide to move to.
I wish you luck with what ever you decide. Personally, our founding fathers made huge sacrafices to give us what we had. We dropped the ball, it is our repsonsibility to correct the situation so that our children and Grand children may enjoy the same freedom and liberty we had. If you decide to leave, aren't you being a hypocryte because you are partially responsible for what is bad in America? I am ssuming that you have only been in the know for 5 to 10 years,and spent many years living your life like the rest of us did being good little sheep.
God Bless and I hope you make the right decision that you can live with.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."- Thomas Jefferson
There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan
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Maybe the South Shall Rise Again?
Considering a majority of our armed forces are from the South, that would work out well.
Why should I stay?
I am with you! I though about Australia, but too many animals that want to bite me, so that is off the list. How about Balize or New Zealand? I don't know which is worse; taking a hit from a deadly animal or staying and fighting, which ultimatly might mean getting my gun out. If you figure out a good country before I do, let me know and I will move too. Hey, is Texas realy thinking about getting out of the USA? I am a General Contractor and the wife is a Phamasist, so it isn't like I am not bring something to the country I am moving to. I am just so tired to the leaches of this country trying to take what I have worked for from me and giving it to everone who didn't work. Well, fuck them. If the our government want to go the way of the Roman Empire, then they can do it without me. One more thought, I know the military doesn't like old BO, maybe a take over could be aranged from that side, but they would need someone to lead that was not ever in the military. All this is looking more like a revilution than not. YUCK!
Yep
I don't know how big we are right now, but I am dead serious about it and so are others.
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I have a suggestion for you as for where to relocate
And I know I have some not so friendly comments below, but they are meant well, and they all point to the same thing and that is:
You really need to get out of Miami, not the U.S.
Geography is peculiar. You are in almost a "locked in" situation there because of it. My best advice would be to pull out a US atlas. Plan a driving vacation through as many interior states as possible, staying away from the I-95 and I-5 corridors. In fact, where you can help it, stay off of the interstates entirely and plan the trip on US and State highways. Visit historical sites along the way. If you plan on moving anyway, spend the next six months living on the road. Buy an RV if necessary, or combine tent camping, lodges, and hotel stays to keep the costs down. Try not to stay in any town larger than about 15,000 or so if you can help it. The smaller the better. Talk with the locals. Make friends. Scout out places you'd maybe like to live. Not so much for the conveniences you have access to, but more so what makes you feel right. How the scenery looks. Ask yourself, what do I want to look at every day when I wake up?
My guess is your personality is not one that is conducive to being confined to the tip of a peninsula on the edge of an ocean not far from a gulf.
Take this seriously and you will accomplish several things.
1) You will get to travel and see the U.S. which is always a plus just for its own sake.
2) You will maybe find a suitable place to live that is removed from any likely pockets of future tyranny in the congested areas. (that is way cheaper than Miami real estate and cost of living)
3) You will definitely gain an appreciation for the U.S.
4) Your defeatist perspective will change to a more positive one.
5) You will get to meet more people personally and gain perspectives that you aren't exposed to currently.
Even if after doing this you still want to move out of the country, so be it. But I doubt seriously that you will.
Your area where you live, and Florida in general has been characterized as leaning towards a climate of "fast paced, every man for himself" attitudes. And I don't mean this to belittle those of you from Florida, but this has been communicated to me by MANY people who were born there as well as transplants. This is likely because so many people from the Northeast settle there, but there may be other reasons.
Of course, if you ever intend to pass down the I-10 corridor in Louisiana, send me an e-mail. I'll be happy to meet a fellow patriot for a few pints of brew and I'll be happy to show you some good 'ole Cajun cooking.
Florida
Isn't that the 'Come on vacation, leave on probation' state?
My advice - avoid Texas, California, Massachusetts and Florida. They are Police States. Get as far from urban areas as possible.
Thanks for the Post
and thats more the reason i posted this in the first place, not to argue about whether we are winning or loosing but of locations to move to... I know i have to get out of here, I live in a nice neighborhood, my block hasn't had a burglery in the last 20 years all of the sudden we have two, including my home within 3 months. If you believe in Freedom than you should have no qualms about someone choosing to leave the U.S. in search of a better life. There is only a difference of opinion, I believe that it is far to late, I woke up about a year ago to the movement and from what i see, they elite already have there chips in place...
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I actually believe we are
I actually believe we are winning against the wealthy elite and the globalists now. Two years ago the odds were like 80/20 against us. Now the odds seem to be 55/45 in favor of the sheeple. I wonder if Intrade has a line on this?
Just curious
What victories do you see from the liberty movement...
I left the U.S. in 1998...
and haven't been back since. As a matter of fact, I haven't left St. Lucia since. If enough "Ron Paulians" moved down here and spread our movement locally, the St. Lucians would be an extremely receptive audience. Believe me, I try to teach people all the time about the merits of individual liberty, limited government and free-market economics, and they are fascinated to learn about truths they don't get from ABC, CBS, NBC, ZNN or the others. We already have a physical paradise here. There's no reason it couldn't be turned into an economic and political paradise too. We are an island of only 160,000 people, so putting our principles into practice here would be equivalent to gaining control of a mid-sized American city.
I definitly think
like minded Freedom individuals should migrate together...I cant imagine the impact of 30,000 Ron Paulians down there..
I understand you...
but as you point out we are growing our movement is getting stronger every day many police and military are waking up and joining our cause...
how about joining police so we can have another friend on the inside that's what I would do if I lived in USA(I am in Canada).
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